Yes, I DO prefer "thugs"
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stayjaymac
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That's what I'm saying. We're all doing the same thing. So why are you getting on somebody for the n word or liking thugs? Unless you think they're really guys or actual racists talking *******. Is that it?
stayjaymac
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Lol that's what I'm trying to say to him. HahaIsn't that basically the purpose of this entire website?
Liking thugs is not the issue.
Liking thugs is not the issue.
Liking thugs is not the issue.
Liking thugs is not the issue.
Liking thugs is not the issue.
Isn't that basically the purpose of this entire website?
For some sure
For other who dont chase after everything thrown their way maybe not
I honestly don't understand why people are so upset here. I like what I like. Furthermore, I choose to play with whom I like. That's what it comes down to. CHOICE! If anyone has a problem with that, then that reflects more on them than it does on me doesn't it?
Take the whole "thug" thing out of the question and there's so many people on this thread judging the poster simply because she likes to play with a particular type of someone over another type of someone as if somehow she shouldn't have a choice and should just play with anyone because.... black.
Take the whole "thug" thing out of the question and there's so many people on this thread judging the poster simply because she likes to play with a particular type of someone over another type of someone as if somehow she shouldn't have a choice and should just play with anyone because.... black.
After we've cleared up that who you choose to fuck is NOT the issue. We don't care who you fuck. It's not about choice because that's not what we're talking about.
Yeah, people in here are just trying to be stupid now.
Yeah, people in here are just trying to be stupid now.
did you miss the entire white man in black skin thing
Um, no I didn't. But again, that is her opinion and while opinions are not facts, they reflect choice. I like to play with younger men. That is my choice. If you are not a younger man, I may not be interested in you. That should be ok with you shouldn't it? That I have an opinion and a choice on the type of men I like? It's no different from what she's expressing in her choice much as you might object to the words she used to express herself in.
No, we shouldn't be ok with being stereotyped because her ignorant way of thinking is something we try to combat in every day life. Opinion may reflect choice but opinion isn't choice itself. You keep bringing up choice when that is not the issue at all. Personal preference and your idea of how someone should act based on race are not synonymous. Stop making them synonymous.
my wife admitted that dominant and "dangerous" BBC arouse her ...
I'm not making them synonymous at all but you seem to be saying that regardless of what her taste is, she should just sleep with you or someone like you because... black. Sorry, it doesn't work like that. I admit it. I love black men but I refuse to sleep with a 400 lbs slob. Another woman may like that type. I don't. That's my choice and I own it. If she likes thugs, then that's what she likes.
You intentionally ignored the main point as usual. Nobody cares who she likes to fuck. When did being 400 pounds(which is physical not behavioral) become apart of the discussion? She should fuck who she wants. She should NOT say who she wants to fuck is somehow "blacker" than anyone else who doesn't act that way. Being black isn't what we try to be, its who we are so we don't need people who aren't black telling us what is black. Being thuggish or hood does not define us as a whole.
I have a preference in the women I like, physically(irrelevant here) and personality. I don't expect all white people or any other race to act uniformly because everybody is an individual.
Nobody. Has. A. Problem. With. Your. Choice.
Obviously you do care who she likes to fuck as you so poetically put it since you have run a whole thread of criticism on it. I concede she may have phrased her preference in a way that clearly offended you but it is still her preference and no matter how much you keep harping at it and trying to change her mind, it is what she likes and her choice to like it as young black men is what I like and it is my choice to like them.
Yeah, it's intentional ignorance on your part. Keep bringing up choice and preference when it's not the issue.
If I have to run a whole thread criticizing ignorant thinking and stereotyping, so be it. Of course, some people don't want to learn.
This topic always seems to bring a certain amount of discord whenever it is brought up. I'm going to attempt to shed a little light on it in my own little way. This may get a little lengthy so please bear with me.
First I will address some of the reasons why some of us black men get so offended at the whole thug vs non thug debate. The truth is that for most of us, even the most successful of us, come from the very environment that breeds real thugs like a swamp breeds mosquitoes. In other words, most of us either started out in some type of hood or we are only one generation removed from it (meaning that maybe our parents made it out and gave us a better upbringing but were still close enough to have close relatives who still lived there). So we have very intimate knowledge of what a real thug looks like, sounds like, acts like, etc. Now, since we have lived this there are probably many men here who can attest to the fact that getting out of that environment is not the easiest thing to do. Like Chris Rock said...in the hood, you get more respect coming home from jail than you do coming home from college...or even the military. It sometimes seems like the only way you can escape the hood without giving up your "hood pass" is to either make it out through sports or music. God forbid you use your brain to get out because if you do, people will actually question your 'blackness'..and I'm talking about other black people. If you were to ask most black men on this site, not matter how educated, well traveled and accomplished they are if they have had anyone close to them end up either dead or in jail before the age of 21, I'm sure that most of us could give you a nice sized list that would include childhood friends, classmates and family members. In other words, if you make it out of that environment you are somehow viewed as "not as black" (whatever the hell that means). I can personally remember encountering this. First of all, a little background about myself. I am originally from Philadelphia, North Philadelphia to be exact. The type of place that wouldn't be on anyone's list of desirable places to live. Now I had a mom who simply did not tolerate "street talk" in the house. She wanted me to talk like I had some sense so she stressed education and she wasn't hesitant about whipping my ass whenever I veered off that path.. Sometimes this would carry over when I was outside in the neighborhood with my friends and they would look at me like I was crazy. They accused me of "speaking white" because I had an early command of the English language. I used big words and I knew whet they meant lol Fortunately I was able to get out but I could go back to my neighborhood at any time (in fact I was there 2 weeks ago for a family funeral) and still see the same guys, sitting on the same stoop, going to the same ******* store, talking the same ******* that they were 20, 30 years ago. It's actually pretty fucking depressing. I bet there are countless black men here who could echo this same sentiment. Basically what I am saying is that by the time most of us get out and distance ourselves from "that life" we have encountered so much BS attributed to our "blackness" that it ruffles our feathers to see some white women saying that we are not as black as someone else because we don't display certain attributes. Trust me, we never lose that edge that got us through and out of that environment. We just know how to not only turn it on and off, but also how to scale it back based on a given situation. And truthfully, we don't feel the need to turn it on just for the sake of getting some pussy. Now, if you were to follow some of us back to our hometowns (which to be honest, most of the white women here would be terrified to do so), you would see just how hood we can be.
Now, as for the white women who are attracted to thugs. I don't really see it as wanting a guy who is criminally inclined or anything like that. It's really not that serious. As someone else stated, it's not really a black/white issue. Certain women have been drawn to bad boys since forever. Just look at pop culture. Think Happy Days....Richie vs the Fonz. Their parents drill into their heads that they should marry a Richie, so naturally they go in the opposite direction. It's the Fonz who excites them. He's the one who makes their pussy wet. He's the one they lust after. He is who they were forbidden to see by their parents. So when I hear white women talk about their interest in thugs, what I really hear is that they like a bad boy because chances are, their husband or they men they routinely encounter are not bad boys. When they see that black man who is successful, educated, etc, it's not that they don't see him as less black, they just don't see him as a bad boy, therefore he does very little to excite them because he is so much like the typical men she deals with. What I would like to hear more of is exactly which characteristics women find appealing in thugs. Personally I think part of it is the swagger...that "play by your own rules" type of mentality. A person who sets trends instead of follows them. A person who is confident enough in himself to know that he doesn't have to chase women. He makes them work for his attention and isn't afraid to replace them if he feels they are coming up short. He keeps her guessing, keeps her on her heels, keeps her from feeling too comfortable with her position. He keeps her working. I could be wrong, these are just my thoughts.
A the end of the day, we are all free to like what we like. No one wants to be with someone who doesn't 'do it for us'. My thought is this, I know that I'm not every woman's cup of tea. The flip side of that is that there are women out there who want to buy what I am selling. I simply choose not to waste my time on those who don't. I never take it personally.
I'm not trying to settle any disagreements here. Just trying to shed some light on where each party could be coming from so that we have a better understanding of each other. I'm sure there will be plenty of people on both sides who will disagree with what I have written. I've said my peace and I wish all of you a blessed day.
First I will address some of the reasons why some of us black men get so offended at the whole thug vs non thug debate. The truth is that for most of us, even the most successful of us, come from the very environment that breeds real thugs like a swamp breeds mosquitoes. In other words, most of us either started out in some type of hood or we are only one generation removed from it (meaning that maybe our parents made it out and gave us a better upbringing but were still close enough to have close relatives who still lived there). So we have very intimate knowledge of what a real thug looks like, sounds like, acts like, etc. Now, since we have lived this there are probably many men here who can attest to the fact that getting out of that environment is not the easiest thing to do. Like Chris Rock said...in the hood, you get more respect coming home from jail than you do coming home from college...or even the military. It sometimes seems like the only way you can escape the hood without giving up your "hood pass" is to either make it out through sports or music. God forbid you use your brain to get out because if you do, people will actually question your 'blackness'..and I'm talking about other black people. If you were to ask most black men on this site, not matter how educated, well traveled and accomplished they are if they have had anyone close to them end up either dead or in jail before the age of 21, I'm sure that most of us could give you a nice sized list that would include childhood friends, classmates and family members. In other words, if you make it out of that environment you are somehow viewed as "not as black" (whatever the hell that means). I can personally remember encountering this. First of all, a little background about myself. I am originally from Philadelphia, North Philadelphia to be exact. The type of place that wouldn't be on anyone's list of desirable places to live. Now I had a mom who simply did not tolerate "street talk" in the house. She wanted me to talk like I had some sense so she stressed education and she wasn't hesitant about whipping my ass whenever I veered off that path.. Sometimes this would carry over when I was outside in the neighborhood with my friends and they would look at me like I was crazy. They accused me of "speaking white" because I had an early command of the English language. I used big words and I knew whet they meant lol Fortunately I was able to get out but I could go back to my neighborhood at any time (in fact I was there 2 weeks ago for a family funeral) and still see the same guys, sitting on the same stoop, going to the same ******* store, talking the same ******* that they were 20, 30 years ago. It's actually pretty fucking depressing. I bet there are countless black men here who could echo this same sentiment. Basically what I am saying is that by the time most of us get out and distance ourselves from "that life" we have encountered so much BS attributed to our "blackness" that it ruffles our feathers to see some white women saying that we are not as black as someone else because we don't display certain attributes. Trust me, we never lose that edge that got us through and out of that environment. We just know how to not only turn it on and off, but also how to scale it back based on a given situation. And truthfully, we don't feel the need to turn it on just for the sake of getting some pussy. Now, if you were to follow some of us back to our hometowns (which to be honest, most of the white women here would be terrified to do so), you would see just how hood we can be.
Now, as for the white women who are attracted to thugs. I don't really see it as wanting a guy who is criminally inclined or anything like that. It's really not that serious. As someone else stated, it's not really a black/white issue. Certain women have been drawn to bad boys since forever. Just look at pop culture. Think Happy Days....Richie vs the Fonz. Their parents drill into their heads that they should marry a Richie, so naturally they go in the opposite direction. It's the Fonz who excites them. He's the one who makes their pussy wet. He's the one they lust after. He is who they were forbidden to see by their parents. So when I hear white women talk about their interest in thugs, what I really hear is that they like a bad boy because chances are, their husband or they men they routinely encounter are not bad boys. When they see that black man who is successful, educated, etc, it's not that they don't see him as less black, they just don't see him as a bad boy, therefore he does very little to excite them because he is so much like the typical men she deals with. What I would like to hear more of is exactly which characteristics women find appealing in thugs. Personally I think part of it is the swagger...that "play by your own rules" type of mentality. A person who sets trends instead of follows them. A person who is confident enough in himself to know that he doesn't have to chase women. He makes them work for his attention and isn't afraid to replace them if he feels they are coming up short. He keeps her guessing, keeps her on her heels, keeps her from feeling too comfortable with her position. He keeps her working. I could be wrong, these are just my thoughts.
A the end of the day, we are all free to like what we like. No one wants to be with someone who doesn't 'do it for us'. My thought is this, I know that I'm not every woman's cup of tea. The flip side of that is that there are women out there who want to buy what I am selling. I simply choose not to waste my time on those who don't. I never take it personally.
I'm not trying to settle any disagreements here. Just trying to shed some light on where each party could be coming from so that we have a better understanding of each other. I'm sure there will be plenty of people on both sides who will disagree with what I have written. I've said my peace and I wish all of you a blessed day.
And that is what would make a woman like me MADLY attracted to you and not attracted to someone like jsmooth or TexasPervySage, (no offense boys), you were strong enough to better yourself and get out of that environment, yet you still carry it in you and are a confident alpha male who can actually communicate himself rather than mindlessly criticize and judge someone because she has particular tastes they don't approve of.
100%....I have a polite white man at home....need the total opposite....someone who who knows he has what I want and the feeling is mutual....and he lets me know.Someone posed this question in another thread, but something happened the other day that made me think about it more... I have always been more attracted to the "thug" type of black guy... kind of like Wesley Pipes in porn. LOL The guy I've been seeing for years is not THAT extreme but he does have a "thug" side to him that I find really sexy. And to me "thug" is kind of like a "bad boy." I don't mean someone who is an actual criminal-- like a ******* or murderer or anything horrible like that. I mean a guy with an "edge." One who has a "street" side to him. In other words, I'm not looking for a white guy with black skin. I'm looking for a black guy with black skin (I even prefer darker black guys over lighter ones). No offense to anyone!
So anyways, the other night I met a more "clean cut" type of black guy at an event. I thought he was cute, we made out a bit, but I wasn't fully turned on by him... Not the way I am to the more "thug" type of guy I've been seeing on and off for years! So I realized that for me, that is a BIG PART of the attraction I feel to black men. Does anyone else feel this way?
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