And I have so much more respect for that!
Are cucks ruining these interracial sex sites??
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Everyone does, and I even respect myself more for being me! I'm glad those other days are behind me!
I have never pretended to be a black guy. Nor have pretended to be young. Nor have pretended at be anything but a over sixty white widower. Step ******* of three and grandfather of 7 with one on the way.
Every year around Christmas the mens group I belong to provides a driving service for people going to company parties. Two of us arrive at the party, and one of us drives the couple home on their car. That way they leave the ops in their car. No ******* driving.
As far as my friends / neighours and community are concerned I am just a regular boring old guy who helps people. Like to leave them with that.
It allows me to take my lady friend to the city for shopping, theatre trips.
Every year around Christmas the mens group I belong to provides a driving service for people going to company parties. Two of us arrive at the party, and one of us drives the couple home on their car. That way they leave the ops in their car. No ******* driving.
As far as my friends / neighours and community are concerned I am just a regular boring old guy who helps people. Like to leave them with that.
It allows me to take my lady friend to the city for shopping, theatre trips.
The lifestyle, where Alpha Black Men dominate both genders, is just starting to take hold. I have been looking for this for years and only recently discovered it. As time progresses, the membership will grow. I am happy to get the opportunity to interact with Alpha men in this setting. The BNWO is classified as a lifestyle choice or even a Subculture. So, choice is never laughable. The females no matter what their role, are always welcome in the lifestyle.
Many male beta are seeking Alphas to submit to because they are not welcome in other social circles. The betas are also not diluting ourselves about our role. It is a fact that beta males seek to be dominated by a black alpha male and his cock.
I am not sure where you are getting your info... Perhaps in time.
If it's such a big movement, why don't couples talk about it? Why is it always single white males? Why aren't there BNWO stories making it into any kind of media outside of places like this? Why are there no BNWO lifestyle parties or events? Why aren't women and black men organizing local BNWO munches or meet-ups on FetLife?
We get it. You've watched enough interracial porn that YOU fantasize about submitting to black men. I myself am submissive, and have long talked about my willingness to submit to whomever my wife chooses, male or female. Others may even be more bi than I am, and that's fine. So I am not trying to shame anyone for their personal proclivities.
But here's the thing that actually being in the lifestyle would teach single white males in a hurry: black men aren't automatically sexually superior. My wife has encountered several with smaller cocks than mine. Many also aren't gym rats. So in addition to not being more physically desirable than a lot of white men, they don't automatically come with a level of fitness that includes a lot of sexual stamina. There are also plenty of white men who DO have big dicks, and who ARE in great physical shape, and who ARE "alpha" or sexually dominant. My wife has a preference for black men, but after many years in the lifestyle, she'll tell you it's NOT easy to find one who is attractive, hung, in great physical shape, has lots of stamina, who is also dominant, and understanding of the cuckold dynamic and what everyone gets out of the situation. We've had some amazing experiences, but it's not automatic like the single white men seem to want to believe, that all black men are sex gods and all white women want to be impregnated by them and all white men are submissive AND bisexual. It's not a universal succession of decisions for a white woman to find and marry a white beta male, to lock his dick up and make him "pussy-free," then have a bunch of black babies (which a white woman can't actually do anyway), and live happily ever after as a couple, in the service of "alpha black men."
Plenty of white men are not submissive. Plenty of femdom couples still enjoy making love, even if they also enjoy chastity and/or cuckold play. Plenty of couples want to raise children they produced together biologically. And if black bloodlines are supposedly superior, white women can do nothing but dilute those superior bloodlines, contributing to the extinction of the black race as quickly as the white race. None of these things are going to change. Ever. So this "World Order" quite literally CAN'T become a reality. So why not focus on fantasies like finding a woman in the first place, who loves you but is still open to being with black men (assuming you actually are still into women at all), or just finding a strong bi or gay black man to submit to yourself? Why does the fantasy have to include some unrealistic global takeover? What is it about forsing your fantasy on everyone else that makes it more appealing? Why is nothing hot without a "World Order" supposedly driving it?
My own theory is that it's because single white men with BNWO fantasies actually can't even imagine finding a real woman who shares their fantasies and will love them. Perhaps even more unlikely would be finding a black man who wants to be with both attractive white women, and self-loathing out-of-shape white dudes with no perception of sexual self-worth. So the men in that category start to fantasize that it's actually increasingly likely that they'll find those things, because there's an imaginary movement committed to proliferating those ideas that makes it all but inevitable. I would think it would be good news to learn that my wife is smart and devious and sexy in the ways she teases me, and plays by her own rules rather than a set of silly mandates handed to her by single, white internet porn addicts. I feel like it should be comforting to learn that she still sometimes allows me to have sex with her, that we maintain a happy sex life together, and even though we have ******* we love and a lifestyle that appears traditional most of the outside world, we still managed to find time to explore cuckold extramarital play together happily. When I blog about the things we do, I'm constantly told things like, "your stories give me hope that something similar could happen for me," or, "I hope one day my wife and I might try some of the things you and your wife do." But here, people read those things and act like we're "doing it wrong." They just need to believe in some weird, impossible global fantasy in order to be excited fantasizing about their own possibilities. They need to believe their own failure was inevitable because they are white males, and they have no personal responsibility for learning to treat women right or improve their own situations. Everything is "rightfully so" and "as it should be" if they never have to aspire to be a worthy partner. In short, they are broken.
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VERY well said! Bravo!
I have been denying my sub side to black men for a long time. Now that I am embracing it and interested in exploring it, now (according to you) there is something wrong with my choices... I didn't create the BBC or BNWO movements. But I embrace them. Just like other people like the furry lifestyle. Why go where you are not welcome. The few black masters I have chatted with here are nothing but welcoming. Thanks to Them All.
Very sorry to hear that.
No, there is nothing wrong with your choice to embrace being submissive, to whomever you desire. I commend you for being honest with yourself about your desire to be with men and what kind of men you're attracted to. Everyone should be able to be their true selves.
But why not just go find a gay black top to serve and be with? Why do you need women and couples to validate this newly admitted sexual preference for black men? What does your coming to terms with your own desire to submit to men have to do with women and couples in the lifestyle?
People who are into the furry lifestyle don't try to say things like, "all non-furry people should recognize the supremacy of furries, and serve them while being bred out of existence." They don't confuse the people who share their kinks with a "new world order." Their lifestyle choice doesn't involve a fictitious global takeover that effectively removes women and healthy sexual relationships with their husbands from the equation.
People here talk about "the lifestyle," which may include different elements from swinging, stag/vixen or hotwife lifestyle, people who are into threesomes or group play, cuckoldry, FLR/femdom, BDSM, chastity play, ******-bi role play, sissy/feminization, you name it. Specifically, this site caters to interracial sex and that can literally apply to ANY of those situations. There is nothing wrong with any of those things. In fact, my wife and I enjoy many of them, and we don't fault anyone for embracing the things we don't. We believe people should be free to pursue their interests with others who enjoy them as well.
The only thing that makes me sympathetic to those complaining about a certain group "ruining these sex sites" is when I continually see garbage about how "all white women must be black bred," or "all white bois must become pussy free and accept their place serving superior black men." The BNWO "movement" is a sexual fantasy created by single white men, and is predicated on making sure other people fall in line and self destruct, right along with them. Why are you worried about what other people decide to do, and how they choose to do it?
What? Don't go there. It sounds bad.
And that's fantastic. I genuinely hope you find the man (or men) you're looking for. I will just never understand why people can't be happy focusing on their own situations, their own partners, and their own interests. Why does your sexual fulfillment require a "World Order?" What makes your kink a movement, and why does it depend on universal adoption?
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Sorry, I don't follow. What is a good place to start?
This site.
Cool. Again, we agree. I'm not telling you to leave the site (though I do think there are places you might have more luck finding male partners).
My point is simply that this place quickly devolves into a parody of itself when "submissive" single men start trying dictate an "order" of things for other people. If you can't enjoy your own sexual fantasy without the false backing of an imaginary global movement, other people stop being able to relate, and this becomes a gradually less enjoyable place to try to communicate.
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I think there's a tendency for cucks to realise they are into this, potentially later in life, or hopefully earlier now with younger guys identifying as cucks and learning about the lifestyle through sites such as this. However, learning is one thing, actually doing it in real life is another thing entirely separate. It's easy to type out this and that on a keyboard when you're horny.
Additionally this tendency seems to also be even more location dependent. Specifically the USA seems to have (population size, English language users, tech-website-app usage) a greater share of wannabes. As your country is rather large and people spread out. I imagine it's pretty tricky if you're beta or a cuckold identifier and you're in big expanse in the middle of your country and not in a major population area - or specifically the more liberal (European sense ie progressive) where you probably can find people or go to clubs to meet other like minded people easily, and no doubt the one person you do like on the internet lives in another time zone. Which results in a lot of talk not much action.
Let's be honest we're in a very niche (but thankfully growing) - lifestyle, kink, taste, peccadillo - however you see it.
I've been very fortunate and have been involved in the cuckolding lifestyle for 15 years with various partners. I was lucky to meet women into it, but also that is because I'm very open about it from the start.
There's stuff about BNWO - which is really a heavy/hardcore end of BDSM / with IR at it's centre. All great. But as someone pointed out go and serve a Black Dom/Domme. I know race (it's a massive and important issue everywhere as it should be) but it seems you have a very inbuilt racist society. I'm suspecting a lot of cuckolds would not even like to be associated in public with black partners and it's their dirt little secret.
I don't have an issue with all the more extreme end of the lifestyle and what people say - but this posting is more about go out and actually do it.
Again, I'm very fortunate I live in London, 10 Million people, fetish clubs, swingers parties and IR parties - but I've managed to find the people who think like me by actually doing it.
I pissed around being a 'bull' on a popular swinger site in my 20s then I realised by meeting someone I was a total cuck and wanted a loving cuckold relationship - then the fireworks in my mind exploded. I feel I wasted those earlier years ( all of immediate sexual fun - but not satisfying like the things I like to do now) but I'm certainly not wasting them now and I know who I am.
PS I still have no idea why there is not a British Section to this site!?
Additionally this tendency seems to also be even more location dependent. Specifically the USA seems to have (population size, English language users, tech-website-app usage) a greater share of wannabes. As your country is rather large and people spread out. I imagine it's pretty tricky if you're beta or a cuckold identifier and you're in big expanse in the middle of your country and not in a major population area - or specifically the more liberal (European sense ie progressive) where you probably can find people or go to clubs to meet other like minded people easily, and no doubt the one person you do like on the internet lives in another time zone. Which results in a lot of talk not much action.
Let's be honest we're in a very niche (but thankfully growing) - lifestyle, kink, taste, peccadillo - however you see it.
I've been very fortunate and have been involved in the cuckolding lifestyle for 15 years with various partners. I was lucky to meet women into it, but also that is because I'm very open about it from the start.
There's stuff about BNWO - which is really a heavy/hardcore end of BDSM / with IR at it's centre. All great. But as someone pointed out go and serve a Black Dom/Domme. I know race (it's a massive and important issue everywhere as it should be) but it seems you have a very inbuilt racist society. I'm suspecting a lot of cuckolds would not even like to be associated in public with black partners and it's their dirt little secret.
I don't have an issue with all the more extreme end of the lifestyle and what people say - but this posting is more about go out and actually do it.
Again, I'm very fortunate I live in London, 10 Million people, fetish clubs, swingers parties and IR parties - but I've managed to find the people who think like me by actually doing it.
I pissed around being a 'bull' on a popular swinger site in my 20s then I realised by meeting someone I was a total cuck and wanted a loving cuckold relationship - then the fireworks in my mind exploded. I feel I wasted those earlier years ( all of immediate sexual fun - but not satisfying like the things I like to do now) but I'm certainly not wasting them now and I know who I am.
PS I still have no idea why there is not a British Section to this site!?
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I'll throw my 2 cents in, as a wannabe cuck, maybe. Not for me to judge whether I am one of those ruining anything or not, at least i try not to. To the defense of the cucks I may say that the site has porn forum in its title, so that many people do come here for porn. I joined for porn, but also for some reading, even though I know that many stories are fantasy, some describe actual experience.
I don't try to pose as a woman or couple, avoid to spam people (despite some missteps), but had some interesting discussions in DMs.
*Maybe the one thing I don't like, is people posting too much porn pics in discussion threads*, and I suspect these often are the same guys OP complains about.
I don't try to pose as a woman or couple, avoid to spam people (despite some missteps), but had some interesting discussions in DMs.
*Maybe the one thing I don't like, is people posting too much porn pics in discussion threads*, and I suspect these often are the same guys OP complains about.
