TAKE THE POLL: HOW LONG BEFORE TRUMP GETS IMPEACHED

[subhub174014]

bet there are a lot of trump people wanting to get their hands on Carter page right now..... Feds just admitted they have been monitoring Carter page... even before the trump campaign.... the rest got sucked in after watching page.....His being watched is what started the whole thing!
Feds believed Carter page is/was a Russian spy for a long time!
and when he got named to the trump campaign..... opened a lot of doors!

 

[MacNfries]

I seriously doubt Trump will allow himself to be impeached. His whole purpose, to begin with, was to better himself and stroke his enormous EGO. With Trump, its always about him ... what he's doing, what he's done, and what he's going to do. His staff selections have pretty much defined what this president is all about, and once a couple of the "birds" start singing, I believe Trump will see the writing on the wall and resign. Like Al Capone, he'll be cornered with an accounting fraud, money laundering, etc ... I doubt his involvement in manipulating the elections will ever be proven. Just too much hush money involved. Heck, if he padded my account with a few $million, I'd be his patsy for a couple-3 years in a federal cell.

I believe Carter Page is an "accident" being prepared to happen ... normally the mo with Russian squawkers.

 

[Deleted125623]

Hmmm. Here's my pennies worth.

Trump , ( I believe he honestly thought he could do something about what state the US was in in reference to its overall health monetary wise.) Thought he could clean a dirty shop using his egotistic and self serving family. But. What transpired was his own greed, and the denial that there was anything wrong with himself or the ways & means in doing business. And as such, approached the election like he would his failed ventures.

What transpired was a mean, lie filled inaccurate series of boasts. One's where he alone as the lonely king could deliver. Not on terms that was good for the US and its peoples. But what was good for D Trump and his pack of self serving self centered. family. The cost of which to the American people is going to be felt for generations due to the inpact this family will have on international relations and trust within the International community.

Nothing Trump promised has been done or thought out. Nothing trump and his family has, or will do is for the benefit of the good people of the US or the US its self. Already Trump is making millions off the back of the people once again... But you let this happen. How? By believing in fairy stories from the naked emperor as he slippped by laughing at the absurdity of ease it was all believed. Believed at great cost to the the Good Nation of the US and its peoples. Four years is a long time to stare at the naked emporer. Four years is a long time to suffer the realisation of that stupidy isn't a reason its an action caused by your own failings.

 

[northsb]

@CalichicksonBBC - I'm not going to waste time going back and forth with people who don't practice cognitive dissonance and are cognitive-biased, only read, listen, hear and see what they want to see from slanted reporting mediums, nor are objective enough to see whats going on.

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Let me be clear and here look at the real - not 'alternative' facts; this has nothing to do with having a friendship, relationship, or kinship to someone from Russia as that is not a criminal act. Since you might be in the alternate bubble world (out-foxed news) and may not understand what occurred or what is going on then take it from your own right-leaning spokespeople:

TRUMP APPOINTED UN ambassador Nikki Haley: There is no question that Russia meddled in the election

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. ambassador to the United Nations says there's no question Russia was involved in the U.S. presidential election and that the actions of the Kremlin will be addressed after the investigations are completed.

Gov. Nikki Haley, R- S.C., delivers a speech on "Lessons from the New South" during a luncheon at at the National Press Club, on Wednesday, Sept. 2, 2015, in Washington. Associated Press/Evan Vucci​

"We don't want any country involved in our elections, ever," Nikki Haley said in an interview aired Sunday on ABC's "This Week."

Russian President Vladimir Poroshenko has denied his country meddled in the contest between Republican Donald Trump and Democrat Hillary Clinton. While the Trump White House rejects any suggestion that Trump or his staff had connections to Russia, Trump himself has said he believes Russian operatives hacked Democratic Party emails but that any Russian involvement in the election didn't affect the outcome.

U.S. intelligence agencies report that Russia tried to help Trump's campaign effort. The FBI as well as congressional committees are investigating whether the Russian government coordinated with Trump associates during the campaign.

Trump as president persuaded Haley to leave the governorship of South Carolina to represent the U.S. at the United Nations. In the interview with ABC, she said Trump hasn't told her not to criticize Russia and that she was "beating up on Russia" over issues such as its actions in Crimea and its dispute with Ukraine.

"There's no love or anything going on with Russia right now," she said. "They get that we're getting our strength back, that we're getting our voice back and that we're starting to lead again, and, honestly, at the United Nations, that's the No. 1 comment I get is that they're just so happy to see the United States lead again."

Vladimir Poroshenko Adam Berry/Getty Images

ref:http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-us-ambassador-no-question-russia-meddled-in-election-2017-4

ALL HAIL YOUR
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So of course Russians "don't give a FUK" to quote you because in the end the means (they used) help justify:
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Oh that's bogus the mogus:/

Agreed. If the last week has shown anything it's that Trump and his admin. aren't overly worried about appeasing Russia.

 

[subhub174014]

If the last week has shown anything it's that Trump and his admin. aren't overly worried about appeasing Russia.

trump is a "user".... he used Russia for his benefit during the election... by having people in his campaign tell WikiLeaks to put out some ******* on Hillary and etc...... and just like he does all his other projects.... once the building is done... he has no need for the "contractor" and fucks him!

right now the Feds are close to getting his ass and he knows it..... what better than to try and turn things.... and get people looking at something else instead of his impeachment!.... hell if he thought a war with someone would cool the press on his prior activities... so be it!
send your fellow americans to their death... but stop the impeachment!

 

[lildickwhiteboy]

Trump is a dangerous idiot. I just hope he gets impeached before he gets us all killed!

 

[Torpedo]

I would be surprised if there wasn't wire taps. Both parties have been spying on each for decades. Remember the recordings of Romney at a supposedly private meeting. A lot of the evidence that convicted Nixon was recorded on equipment Kennedy had installed. The best espionage is done by governments, if anything Trump was likely behind the curve on spying on his opponents. And when one of them gets caught it's "Who? Me?"

I think Trump's actions in the Mideast in the last few days should start to dispel the notion that Trump is in Putin's pocket. Of course Syria is really a minor player in the world so Trump's missile strike could be a diversion to lead the anti-Trump away from their beliefs

As to the President being impeached it's not going to happen at least in his first term. One telling thing is the Republican win in Kansas in the last week. I thought the Democrats had a decent chance of an upset but it didn't happen. Considering what has happened to the Democratic party I am dumb founded by the popularity rating that President Obama had when he left office. He is one Hell of a salesman. During Obama's tenure the Democrats lost over 900 legislative seats at the state level, they lost the Governors seat in 12 states, they have also lost 69 House seats and 13 seats in the Senate and the White House. There are people within the Democratic party they feel that the Party really doesn't have the power to be a national *******. Obama has a Hell of a legacy. A now it has come out that the Obama administration was aware Syria still had chemical weapons.

You may rant to your hearts content and post all the nifty graphics you want but unless the Democratic party makes some huge gains in the 2018 midterms they might as well have a garage sale. The Libertarians and the Green party are poised to make a significant impact, I would really like to see neither of the major parties have control of Congress. If we have at least 3 or 4 parties then politicians will have to learn to work together instead of just spouting their mindless dogma

 

[BigBlackBull76]

Agreed. If the last week has shown anything it's that Trump and his admin. aren't overly worried about appeasing Russia.

To @northsb (and all with your ocular view to cognitive bias of the world and Trump Admin)
YOU ARE EXTREMELY MISINFORMED AND SUFFER FROM OMISSION-BIAS OR WORSE DENIAL (like the Fox-News Alternate reality they perpetrate).

JUST FROM TODAY (13APRIL17) NEWS FEEDS


ref: http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-us-sanctions-on-russia-2017-4



ref: http://www.businessinsider.com/british-spy-agency-trump-russia-ties-2017-4

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[Torpedo]

I seriously doubt Trump will allow himself to be impeached. His whole purpose, to begin with, was to better himself and stroke his enormous EGO. With Trump, its always about him ... what he's doing, what he's done, and what he's going to do. His staff selections have pretty much defined what this president is all about, and once a couple of the "birds" start singing, I believe Trump will see the writing on the wall and resign. Like Al Capone, he'll be cornered with an accounting fraud, money laundering, etc ... I doubt his involvement in manipulating the elections will ever be proven. Just too much hush money involved. Heck, if he padded my account with a few $million, I'd be his patsy for a couple-3 years in a federal cell.

I believe Carter Page is an "accident" being prepared to happen ... normally the mo with Russian squawkers.

And Obama doesn't have an enormous ego? Obama was biting the hands that fed him though out his political career. I look at the what has happened to the Democratic party during Obama's Tenure and I just don't understand how he left office with such a high approval rating and a party in total shambles. Ego wise the only real difference between Trump and Obama is Trump is more flamboyant

I doubt Trump will resign or be impeached. He seems to be learning the difference between a CEO and POTUS. The attack on Syria has certainly changed the public perception of his relationship with Putin and Russia. It didn't help the Democratic party when people from Obama's camp said they knew the chemical weapons were there after they publicly announced the total removal. We might be seeing the beginning of the unraveling of the Obama legacy

As for fraud I would really like to see a thorough outside audit of the Clinton Foundation. I think an outside audit is a great idea for any non profit worth over 5 or 10 million dollars

 

[MacNfries]

The attack on Syria has certainly changed the public perception of his relationship with Poroshenko and Russia.

....You conservatives can't help discussing a topic without getting into a dick measuring contest with liberals. We simply point out the things that are popping up in the news with this president and bingo ... here you guys come, with "well Clinton did this ... Obama did that ... nah, nah, nah, nah ....geesh!"
....Its never been this bad with the Clintons or Obamas ... even the Republicans have admitted the whole purpose of dragging out Benghazi was to destroy her credibility ... hell, they ADMIT THAT now. That is FACT. But, that aside, look who Trump has appointed ... thugs, mostly lying thugs. Their laundry is being cleaned right now, but its only a matter of time until they and the Russians start singing, and its gonna be a huge mess when it does. Money laundering and working with the Russians is but a small amount of what Trump is being investigated for ... try indecent liberties with minors, screwing with the voting process, etc ... he's witness on aZbaby pornography charge with his buddy in Florida, a known pediphile, and is said his travels to Russia included prostitutes, some of which were ******* girls. Its also known that he owes quite a bit of money (billions, actually) to Russian loan sharks. How much longer until the Russians want something else from Trump and put the squeeze on him? Every DAY its something more added to his BS alt-presidency. His credibility is ******* ... he won't even talk about the 6-7 years he accused Obama of not being a US citizen when he knew it was a frik'n lie. What does it take to disqualify this asshole? And the "bigger & better & cheaper" health insurance plan that he promised and never produced .... he wouldn't know a co-insurance from a deductible, much less design a "bigger & better & cheaper" health plan that will cover everyone. He had NO intention of replacing Obamacare with a better plan ... just like he had no intention of building a great wall between Mexico & the US ... the fucker is a LIAR that lives in a virtual word of Trump and can't distinquish between facts and opinions. This guy gets his FACTS from Fox News and WikiLeaks, which have now been proven that they altered some of the Clinton e-mails.
...Here we are into the 4th month of Trump's presidency and he hasn't fulfilled ONE promise ... and he's played 5X more golf in Florida already than Obama played in an entire last year of his presidency. Yet Trump stood on stage (many recordings available) saying that Obama was ON THE GOLF COURSE and if Trump was elected he would STAY in the White House and GET THINGS DONE. Hell, his own wife not only won't sleep with him, she won't even stay in the same house with the jerk.
...How many times did Trump say if HE was president he would NOT get involved with Syria ... and criticized Obama ... yet first time a crisis pops up, he sends in his bombers acting like a good Samaritan who cares ... LOL ... hell, he won't even let the Syrian refugees into the country ... why send in the bombers? Its all SHOW ... Trump don't give a rats ass about anything but Donald Trump. His laundry is going to get cleaned THIS YEAR ... and its not going to be a small load, either .... "believe me" .... as he says.
Trump's the notorious Liar Of The World ...
So, please, spare me your BS Torp ... I'm not buying anything positive coming from Trump.

 

[BigBlackBull76]

And Obama doesn't have an enormous ego? Obama was biting the hands that fed him though out his political career. I look at the what has happened to the Democratic party during Obama's Tenure and I just don't understand how he left office with such a high approval rating and a party in total shambles. Ego wise the only real difference between Trump and Obama is Trump is more flamboyant

I doubt Trump will resign or be impeached. He seems to be learning the difference between a CEO and POTUS. The attack on Syria has certainly changed the public perception of his relationship with Poroshenko and Russia. It didn't help the Democratic party when people from Obama's camp said they knew the chemical weapons were there after they publicly announced the total removal. We might be seeing the beginning of the unraveling of the Obama legacy

As for fraud I would really like to see a thorough outside audit of the Clinton Foundation. I think an outside audit is a great idea for any non profit worth over 5 or 10 million dollars

I luv you my brother @Torpedo, but we need to quit bringing Obama, and Clinton into this as Russia hacked the DNC to aide their buddy Trump who made all types of acquiescence to them all during his campaign and a concession from the RNC on sanctions over the Ukraine invasion.

This thread is all about the cozy and fishy connection to Trump and Putin and some members of the RNC co-signing on the subterfuge especially during the campaign season. They knew exactly what the Russians were up to and turned their heads. Trump and some members of the RNC are co-conspirators on attacking the US and US Institutions period. I've never been a Demo or Repub ideologue or registered voter as I've always been a moderate/independent and would caucus Libertarian. This learning on the Job from CEO to POTUS bit is a stretch. He is incompetent, doesn't have the right temperament and only a matter of time before him being in over his head really starts to really pick up and surface even more than is showing now which will be disastrous in the end for us all.

The constant immediate deflection and pivots back to Obama/Clinton/Demos is what keeps this country polarized and detrimental to us uniting under what we have in common which are threats to our nation and interference with our democracy/Republic as a whole. This joker in office got in by illegitimate means to which there is hardcore proof and is unqualified by most measures that his predecessors have met (free from international conflicts of interest/tax releases/temperament/Experience in some form of Governing/decorum, etc.). End of story here - I have to shut down the BS like the President of Zimbabwe did in the video below (please watch it) that deviates from the main Topic unless you have evidence to refute Trump and his Admin were/are in cohoots with the Ruskies.

Please advance this public forum discussion on the Trump connections if you see any False flags otherwise have a good day.

Whats sad is how far this is not from truth (its almost word for word everything that has came out of his mouth);​

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[MacNfries]

Remember the recordings of Romney at a supposedly private meeting.

Yes, I do recall that and the interview with the waiter who recorded it ... he had NO AFFILIATION with Democrats or any party. Now prove me wrong there! He was interviewed on 60 minutes, MSNBC, CNN, and several major TV stations ... no one attached him to any affiliation or as a plant for the Democrats .... you need to go FISHING for something ELSE.

 

[Torpedo]

....You conservatives can't help discussing a topic without getting into a dick measuring contest with liberals. We simply point out the things that are popping up in the news with this president and bingo ... here you guys come, with "well Clinton did this ... Obama did that ... nah, nah, nah, nah ....geesh!"
....Its never been this bad with the Clintons or Obamas ... even the Republicans have admitted the whole purpose of dragging out Benghazi was to destroy her credibility ... hell, they ADMIT THAT now. That is FACT. But, that aside, look who Trump has appointed ... thugs, mostly lying thugs. Their laundry is being cleaned right now, but its only a matter of time until they and the Russians start singing, and its gonna be a huge mess when it does. Money laundering and working with the Russians is but a small amount of what Trump is being investigated for ... try indecent liberties with minors, screwing with the voting process, etc ... he's witness on aZbaby pornography charge with his buddy in Florida, a known pediphile, and is said his travels to Russia included prostitutes, some of which were ******* girls. Its also known that he owes quite a bit of money (billions, actually) to Russian loan sharks. How much longer until the Russians want something else from Trump and put the squeeze on him? Every DAY its something more added to his BS alt-presidency. His credibility is ******* ... he won't even talk about the 6-7 years he accused Obama of not being a US citizen when he knew it was a frik'n lie. What does it take to disqualify this asshole? And the "bigger & better & cheaper" health insurance plan that he promised and never produced .... he wouldn't know a co-insurance from a deductible, much less design a "bigger & better & cheaper" health plan that will cover everyone. He had NO intention of replacing Obamacare with a better plan ... just like he had no intention of building a great wall between Mexico & the US ... the fucker is a LIAR that lives in a virtual word of Trump and can't distinquish between facts and opinions. This guy gets his FACTS from Fox News and WikiLeaks, which have now been proven that they altered some of the Clinton e-mails.
...Here we are into the 4th month of Trump's presidency and he hasn't fulfilled ONE promise ... and he's played 5X more golf in Florida already than Obama played in an entire last year of his presidency. Yet Trump stood on stage (many recordings available) saying that Obama was ON THE GOLF COURSE and if Trump was elected he would STAY in the White House and GET THINGS DONE. Hell, his own wife not only won't sleep with him, she won't even stay in the same house with the jerk.
...How many times did Trump say if HE was president he would NOT get involved with Syria ... and criticized Obama ... yet first time a crisis pops up, he sends in his bombers acting like a good Samaritan who cares ... LOL ... hell, he won't even let the Syrian refugees into the country ... why send in the bombers? Its all SHOW ... Trump don't give a rats ass about anything but Donald Trump. His laundry is going to get cleaned THIS YEAR ... and its not going to be a small load, either .... "believe me" .... as he says.
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So, please, spare me your BS Torp ... I'm not buying anything positive coming from Trump.

If we ******* canned every politician that lied we wouldn't need term limits. I find laughable and somewhat sad that you cling to the belief that the Clinton's and Obama cared so much for this country. People inside the Obama administration have said they knew that Syria still had chemical weapons. It sure as Hell looks like Obama took the political gain he could get out of the deal and left the mess IE: murdered women and children for someone else to clean up. Makes me wonder about the Iranian deal. Trump is hardly a red, white and blue patriot but he is taking what I see as an honorable stand.

You rant on about Trump and the Republicans but I REALLY would like your assessment of what happened to the Democratic party since 2008 and who you think is responsible.

 

[subhub174014]

I seriously doubt Trump will allow himself to be impeached

I am starting to doubt he personally was involved... maybe just got "duped" by a bunch of cronies???? or it could be this whole Syria thing was just to take the heat off and fool some people.... which has a good possibility also... since everyone had advanced notice... and he didn't hurt the airport... and there is no video of any planes really being damaged... just "reports"

But because of what so many did under him... I think it will still get him

 

[Torpedo]

I luv you my brother @Torpedo, but we need to quit bringing Obama, and Clinton into this as Russia hacked the DNC to aide their buddy Trump who made all types of acquiescence to them all during his campaign and a concession from the RNC on sanctions over the Ukraine invasion.

Trump doesn't appear to be sucking up to the Russians very much right now. As to spying everyone does it to everyone else. If you remember someone from the DNC secretly taped a private meeting Romney was having with supporters that likely cost Romney the election. Politicians are much better at domestic spying than most other citizens

 

[subhub174014]

but we need to quit bringing Obama, and Clinton

for torp... everything wrong in politics... is always Obama and Clinton... hard to have a conversation with the guy without it eventually going there... got a real "hate" festering up there

 

[MacNfries]

You rant on about Trump and the Republicans but I REALLY would like your assessment of what happened to the Democratic party since 2008 and who you think is responsible.

Good question and here's my opinion ... its baffled me for years as to why Democrats are so poor on defending themselves against charges & lies the Republicans continue to dolt out to the public. And I finally have come to the conclusion that many of the rich Democrats benefit from the policies of the Republicans ... like "trickle down" and they're willing to sit back and let Republicans win these fights. I know here in NC the voters are as baffled as to why Democrats did not counter with the charges Republicans kept drumming up ... no more than one false TV ad was taken down, the Republicans would come up with something totally different ... all lies and intentional miss-directions.

 

[Torpedo]

Yes, I do recall that and the interview with the waiter who recorded it ... he had NO AFFILIATION with Democrats or any party. Now prove me wrong there! He was interviewed on 60 minutes, MSNBC, CNN, and several major TV stations ... no one attached him to any affiliation or as a plant for the Democrats .... you need to go FISHING for something ELSE.

Of course he didn't. A good operative has a good cover, and a good cover story. I am familiar with the back story of this person and I don't believe it for a minute

 

[MacNfries]

Of course he didn't. A good operative has a good cover, and a good cover story. I am familiar with the back story of this person and I don't believe it for a minute

Of course you don't ... I don't expect you to admit the truth when its about Obama or Clinton. That's your OPINION, however .... never PROVEN.

 

[Torpedo]

for torp... everything wrong in politics... is always Obama and Clinton... hard to have a conversation with the guy without it eventually going there... got a real "hate" festering up there

Oh I find plenty wrong on the Republican side but you do such a fine job of attacking the Republicans I feel obligated to bring up the sins of the Democrats. By the way how IS the Democratic party doing?"