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Did you know that in NC, if you shoot a gun inside a state park, it is considered a Class A FELONY? We had that just happen last week with 2 guys shooting a shotgun in our local state park. They actually charged these guys with discharging a weapon of mass destruction in a state park.
Do you think something like THAT is worthy of losing your right to vote or hold a public office? It is in NC.
 
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Slightly off topic for this "off topic" section...but in the vein of the "Celebrities you'd like to see get blacked" thread...

How about seeing ole Teddy Cruz in drag getting blacked???

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http://uproxx.com/webculture/ted-cruz-maury-doppleganger-sextape-porn-star/
 
could be... it depend on your party affiliation as to what news you watch.... and they are all biased in one way or another... they say they aren't but they are!
It's down right comical to watch something on Cnn and then switch to fox.... but then I really don't care for either one.. try to stick to CBS and yes I will agree they are a little to the left... but then so am I

It was really hilarious during all those Black Lives matter protests... to switch back and forth between CNN and Fox... you rerally saw a swing in opinions then!
I remember as a kid more than one argument was ended with "Walter Cronkite said" I didn't pay as much attention to the different networks but it seems that when I was younger there was more emphasis on reporting the facts and keeping biases out of the story. Now there isn't even any attempt to appear to be even handed. The BBC is a good source and I read an English version of KavKaz when it is available. It is an Islamic site and it does give some interesting points of view from the Islamic perspective. I also subscribe to a commercial intelligence service. The nice thing about the intelligence service is that giving their subscribers accurate information is their bread and butter. The nature of their the service really requires that they keep their opinions out of their reports but I see leaning to the left or right from some authors. Quite surprisingly I found out about the problems that the Russian Navy was having with mothballed ships from Kavkaz before I heard it any place else. As far as I know main stream media has never made any report of the problems here in the United States.
 
Did you know that in NC, if you shoot a gun inside a state park, it is considered a Class A FELONY? We had that just happen last week with 2 guys shooting a shotgun in our local state park. They actually charged these guys with discharging a weapon of mass destruction in a state park.
Do you think something like THAT is worthy of losing your right to vote or hold a public office? It is in NC.
I must admit Mac, North Carolina has made for some interesting reading the last few months
 
To Go or Not to Go: Republicans Face Trump Convention Dilemma

Bloomberg
By Laura Litvan
April 20, 2016 10:25 AM

To Go or Not to Go: Republicans Face Trump Convention Dilemma


At least four top Republican U.S. senators say they’ve decided to skip July’s party nominating convention in Cleveland to campaign in their home states. Several others say they haven’t decided whether they’ll make the trip, and at least one will boycott the event if Donald Trump emerges as the Republicans’ presidential pick.

This year’s convention is shaping up as perhaps the party’s most pivotal -- and contentious -- in a generation, but Senate Republicans appear increasingly nervous about it. Many in the party are agonizing over the possible elevation of Trump or a contested convention that awards the nomination to someone else, either of which risks damaging the party and handing Senate control to Democrats.

House Speaker Paul Ryan even used a Tuesday night appearance on CNN to call on his colleagues in Congress to attend what he said "could be a great historical exercise."

So far, most of the senators planning to skip the convention are being careful to avoid blaming Trump or the potential messiness directly. Senator John McCain of Arizona, the party’s 2008 presidential nominee, said Tuesday that he’ll be too busy running for his sixth Senate term to go to Cleveland, with his own primary just weeks later.

“It’s not unusual for someone who’s up for re-election to be campaigning,” McCain said when asked whether he would rather avoid a potentially disordered convention. “I have a primary that’s on Aug. 30.”
McCain is facing what may be his toughest re-election fight and has clearly been uncomfortable with Trump’s success. Two others not attending -- Mark Kirk of Illinois and Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire -- also face tough races against Democrats.

Even though those taking a pass on Cleveland say they just want to be on the campaign trail, staying away affords them other advantages. They might be able to avoid taking sides in what could be a protracted and bitter feud between Trump and Texas Senator Ted Cruz, and perhaps distance themselves from any chaotic fallout -- or an unpopular nominee.
But their absences also diminish the likelihood of any grand unity gesture emerging from the convention, if many of the party’s senior leaders and most well-known figures aren’t even in the room.

Upcoming Primaries

Alaska’s Lisa Murkowski noted the convention, which is scheduled to run from July 18 to 21, “is very shortly before my primary. So I’m going to be home with Alaskans.”

Asked whether fissures in the party over leading candidates Trump or Cruz contributed to her decision, she responded, “I won’t be there.”

Of course, it isn’t unprecedented for senators to skip the event. In 2008, when the Republican brand was damaged in the wake of the George W. Bush administration, a handful of vulnerable senators skipped the GOP convention in Minneapolis, including Pat Roberts of Kansas, Susan Collins of Maine, Gordon Smith of Oregon, Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina and Ted Stevens of Alaska.

‘Trump Coronation’

Trump’s bullying rhetoric and Cruz’s history of bucking his party’s Senate leaders could lengthen the list of lawmakers planning to sit out this year’s convention.

Senator Jeff Flake of Arizona, who earlier endorsed Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, said he’ll decide whether to go based on “whether it’s a Trump coronation or not. If it is, I see no reason to go.”

Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, an unsuccessful presidential contender who has said Trump’s policy pronouncements endanger stability in the Middle East and leave foreign leaders “dumbfounded,” said he’ll decide later whether to attend based on “how crazy it looks.”

Still, many other Republican senators are planning on going, including Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, Republican Whip John Cornyn of Texas and Rubio, who will arrive with some delegates won in primaries before his March 15 decision to suspend his presidential campaign.

At least one senator running for re-election will also be there: Rob Portman of Ohio, who would have trouble skipping such a gathering in his home state. He is, however, planning his own parallel convention, which could offer him some separation.

‘People With Brains’

Some senior senators say they will go precisely because the wisdom of party elders may be sorely needed.

"I’ve never missed one," Orrin Hatch of Utah said, adding he plans to go even if the convention gets messy. "Especially, because they’re going to have to have some people with brains, you know. I shouldn’t say that."

Among those vulnerable senators on the ballot, a few are weighing making just brief trips to Cleveland. Senator Roy Blunt of Missouri, who won his last election with 54 percent of the vote, said that if he goes it will only be for “a day or two.” He’s more focused on his Aug. 2 Republican primary, he said, and doesn’t plan to be a convention delegate, anyway.

Brokered Convention?

Blunt said there’s some benefit to staying away for those up for re-election. If the convention is contested, he said, some will inevitably describe it as a “brokered” one, where powerful people in the party swoop in to help steer the outcome, rather than the delegates themselves.

“Certainly, elected officials who aren’t there are unlikely to be accused of being the people who are trying to broker the convention,” he said. Asked whether he’s concerned about being labeled a “broker,” he said, “I shouldn’t even be talking about this, because I haven’t decided what I’m going to do.”

Other senators up for re-election who are planning brief stays include Chuck Grassley of Iowa and Richard Burr of North Carolina. They each insist their past experiences have taught them that conventions suck up valuable time.

“I’ve gone to every convention since 1980, and every time I get done going I wonder why I went to the convention,” Grassley said. “And I think this time I’m going to talk to myself beforehand instead of afterwards. You waste a lot of time.”
There is a bumper sticker I am seeing more often It says "2016 We're screwed" or a slight variation
 
Hillary worried about winning the election - Check

Hillary's close friend is governor of Virginia - Check

Have governor grant blanket voting rights to convicted murderers, rapists, other felons - Check

Get another 200,000 votes for president = Success!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-will-now-have-the-right-to-vote-in-november/
I expect to see a lot of "Creative Voting" this election. There is so much interest in this election I am sure that people that have been dead for a couple of hundred years will get out and vote. I also expect some people to vote early and vote often. Then there is of course the time honored method of just stuffing the ballot box
 
I must admit Mac, North Carolina has made for some interesting reading the last few months
NC has become a major embarrassment & laughing stock in the US, and its all coming from our General Assembly.
I don't believe the Republicans will hold the GA after the first of the year. The state went over one hundred years keeping them out; 2010 killed us with the big money coming into the state. Hopefully it'll be another hundred years before they get it back IF we can get them OUT.
 
I spent a lot of years in Iowa.... and in THAT state once you are convicted of a felony... you are a criminal for life!... you don't vote... no guns... terrible there.... the county jail in that state is bigger than a lot of state prisons.... they have cameras on traffic lights for speeding and etc.... and in areas where there are no traffic lights.... they set up empty vehicles with cameras..... you don't do anything in that state without risking jail time.... and like I said once a criminal... always a criminal... you get stopped more frequently.... your lic plate tells them all they need to know about you and they take it from there.... so yes some states don't let felons vote!
You got that right. Several years ago I was making a road trip from Wisconsin to Dallas, TX. I reclined my seat and was taking a nap. Next thing I know my friend that is driving wakes me up and tells me that the State Patrol has pulled us over because I wasn't wearing the seat belt properly. The officer explained that if we were in an accident the airbag wouldn't be effective and seat belt wouldn't properly restrain me because the seat was reclined. He issued me a ticket for $10.00 and said I could mail it in, but warned that if I failed to pay the ticket I would be subject to arrest. I couldn't believe that bullshit, I never paid the ticket but I am sure the statute of limitations has expired by now. I could see myself locked up and all the bad guys asking "Why are you here?" and me telling them that the seat in the car I was riding in wasn't properly adjusted.
 
Creative voting is an understatement ... this one from NY just last week.

http://www.telesurtv.net/english/ne...6000-Voters-from-the-Books-20160422-0014.html

Of course, if this was a Democrat that had done this, you guys would be commenting all over the place ... but, she's Republican. Hope she likes state prisons ... think she's going to be spending some time there.
As a general rule the Democrats have seemed to favored the Vote Early, Vote Often Approach. The Republicans have seemed to favor just stuffing the ballot box. The electronic voting scares the hell out me. A couple of years before I retired I was talking to the companies IT security guy and he spend a more than an hour telling me ways electronic voting machines could be messed with. The most important things he felt was that the machines not be connected to the internet while in use. They should have an interlock that would prevent their use while connected to the internet. There needs to be a verifiable way to determine the vote count is at zero when the machine goes into use. The machine can't be connected to the internet until a download is made to a non volatile media of all the information on the machine. There is a lot variation in how much security there is from state to another. Both Illinois and Indiana appear to have had tampering problems and there are likely more
 
I expect to see a lot of "Creative Voting" this election
I kind of wonder if people just won't vote in disgust!.... you know during the Texas primary people were checking to see who Perry was going to vote for or endorse.... and no one could seem to figure out if he even voted!
and it appears a lot of Dems are jumping on the Trump wagon.... and several have said they expect a lot of republicans to vote for Hillary... after all IF Trump gets the nod... where are all those anti-Trump people going to go

Just more... political BS.... but I was watching the news the other day when Obama was in the UK... people asking him all kinds of questions... he answered everyone... kind of slow.. but with thought....never put his foot in his mouth nor embarrassed himself or the country..... do you think Trump could do that?
of course a lot of countries don't like him to begin with so he would be off to a disadvantage.... same for Europe they like him.... and of course the middle east is really looking forward to Trump because of his comments about staying out and letting Russia have it
 
As a general rule the Democrats have seemed to favored the Vote Early, Vote Often Approach. The Republicans have seemed to favor just stuffing the ballot box. The electronic voting scares the hell out me
It's a shame the way we treat voting period!... some of these countries that have never had voting... long lines to make sure they vote in a lot of countries it is over 80% that vote.... here inn the US... not sure what it is but it is low!.... and then all this ******* about trying to stop even the few that do vote or discredit their vote.... just makes you want to cry the way all this rigging and BS is going on.... our god given right in this country... half the people don't use it... and then you have a portion of that being screwed out of it.... politics in general in this country has become so corrupt... it amazes me people haven't turned to violence.... and then you can't get a decent person to run for office because of all the BS.... and if one does it is not long before he is just like the rest of them.... and I'm not picking on any certain party!
 
If Bernie could somehow pull 60% of congress in with him and 25 Senators... he could make some changes!... without all that he is just a Dreamer...So even though there is a lot of BS on Hillary... although most of it created and pushed by the republican party... she has no real court appearances to put it mildly..... seems to be the lesser of the evils... like a lot of people I don't like where her money comes from... but still.... and I think Cruz will say and do anything to get into the Oval Office.... but pretty sure even most republican's won't vote for him... and that leaves Trump....I liked him before he started all the talking.... but the more he talks the more scarier he is
 
It's a shame the way we treat voting period!... some of these countries that have never had voting... long lines to make sure they vote in a lot of countries it is over 80% that vote.... here inn the US... not sure what it is but it is low!.... and then all this ******* about trying to stop even the few that do vote or discredit their vote.... just makes you want to cry the way all this rigging and BS is going on.... our god given right in this country... half the people don't use it... and then you have a portion of that being screwed out of it.... politics in general in this country has become so corrupt... it amazes me people haven't turned to violence.... and then you can't get a decent person to run for office because of all the BS.... and if one does it is not long before he is just like the rest of them.... and I'm not picking on any certain party!
I wouldn't have a problem if the voting was done over a couple of days and was all on paper ballots. It is sad when you have to question the integrity of the political parties that are supposed to serve us.
 
bet it hasn't.... that state has more laws.....
That would look real nice in the media. Retired Black American Jailed For Wearing A Seat Belt Improperly. You can bet your ass if I was ever arrested for the unpaid ticket I would tell my attorney "Never mind the court date just contact the media"
 
I still have a lot of friends there and a few relatives..... and you can't believe all the laws and BS....the polk county jail is all underground... each cell has like a tv that shows them outside(parking lot)... any communication is through tv... and covers more sq ft than a couple of the state prisons... I got pulled over one time for no license plate light.... and he looked my car over pretty good before giving me a ticket!
 
I wouldn't have a problem if the voting was done over a couple of days and was all on paper ballots. It is sad when you have to question the integrity of the political parties that are supposed to serve us.
have to agree there.... funny we send people to different countries to make sure the voting is legit.... but no one checks us! and we need it a lot more than some of the countries we send people to
 
Voters dismayed with Arizona's problematic presidential primary voiced frustrations with long lines and registration issues Monday during a hearing for a court challenge to have the election results thrown out

PHOENIX (AP) — Voters dismayed with Arizona's problematic presidential primary voiced frustrations with long lines and registration issues Monday during a hearing for a court challenge to have the election results thrown out.

Testimony came in the wake of the March 22 election where Arizona's most populous county drastically cut polling places. The move emboldened Tucson resident John Brakey, elections integrity activist to sue Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan and all 15 counties.

In a courtroom packed with elections officials and onlookers, voters described waiting in long lines and arguing with elections about problems with their party affiliation.

"The judge is going to have to extrapolate and see how that is a representative example of the variety of similar things that happened to people," said Michael Kielsky, Brakey's attorney.


Alisa Wolfe, A Pima County voter, said her voter registration was improperly changed from Democrat to independent. Ed Higgins, a Maricopa County voter, testified that he had to vote provisionally after the motor vehicles division turned in his change of party affiliation a day too late.

"It was voter suppression," he told the Associated Press before testifying. "This is widespread fraud, this is election fraud."

A poll worker who was on duty during the election testified the computer system checking in voters would not allow her to give the correct ballots to 36 Democratic voters.

"By the third time I said 'Oh no, this is a problem,'" said Dianne Post, who also counted about 20 other voters that were listed in the wrong party.

Attorneys for the state and several Arizona counties took steps to dismiss the lawsuit before the hearing began, but Maricopa County Superior Court Judge David Gass rejected the requests.



They were also quick to point out that a computer scientist, who testified about various hacking methods, had no knowledge of the current voting system that Maricopa County uses.

Assistant Attorney General James Driscoll-MacEachron declined comment for the story.
The hearing is set to reconvene Tuesday. Driscoll-MacEachron and attorneys for the counties are expected to call their own witnesses and offer arguments to prove that Brakey's case does not rise to the level of misconduct needed to discount the election results.

A separate lawsuit was filed last week in federal court by the state and national Democratic parties and presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. It seeks greater court oversight of voting location choices in Maricopa County and a ban on failing to count otherwise-valid ballots cast in an incorrect precinct.

The county has acknowledged it made mistakes in operating the primary by dramatically cutting the number of polling places and widely underestimating Election Day turnout.

The U.S. Department of Justice has launched an inquiry into whether the county violated voting-rights laws.

___

This story has been corrected to show a poll worker testified that the computer system checking in voters would not give the correct ballots to 36 Democratic voters.
 
A poll worker who was on duty during the election testified the computer system checking in voters would not allow her to give the correct ballots to 36 Democratic voters.

I would bet there are a lot more than that...... it just wasn't caught or brought up.... a few in one county caught it.... what about some of the others?

And that is just one state!.... this election rigging just... isn't right!... I do hope someone gets some serious jail time!
 
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