Because I've been involved in the lifestyle for 20 years, hosting lifestyle parties for 8 years and attending parties even longer. I've seen these guys in action. When I say punished, what I mean is that their access to pussy is only slightly affected by not being what many would call a good Bull. Mind you, I'm not saying that they're not good guys. Just saying that they have very little understanding of the dynamics that exists between couples in the lifestyle. In other words.... they don't get it. That's why I always tell couples.... there's a big difference between a Bull and a guy who just wants to fuck your wife.