What is the appeal? [Serious]

s0lf3r1n0

Couple
I have lurked on this site for a while. Additionally, I've done some research in trying to understand why this particular "kink" is what does it for me. There are few academic papers on why 'cuckolding' and 'hotwifing' — with a specific interracial spin — are so popular. Yet, this all feels very 'lit review' and not like it is getting to the bottom of the matter. In most cases, these explanations are unsatisfactory.

My fascination with this topic began with a revelation, from my now wife of 9 years, that she had been in a long-term relationship with an African-American man. For some reason, in part because I have always found my wife to be insanely attractive (being the amazingly beautiful and seductive white-complected woman that she is), this thought drove me wild and opened the door to this area of sensual play. As the years have gone by, I have discussed this with my wife, who has been very agreeable and open to discuss elements of her past... in detail. While this all turns me on immensely, I am always left wondering why it is that I, a man that is consistent and dependable in every way my wife could have ever wanted (economic, physically, sensually, you name it), is turned on by the thought of another man — in this case an African American man — fucking, licking, playing, etc., with her. I am a very secure man and find the idea that my wife has been treated accordingly by myself or other men and women, brought to orgasm, a satisfying thought. In other words, her pleasure has always been of utmost import.

Now, I must say that I have explored the humiliation angle to some degree and while it takes an honest man to admit to themselves that this may be the issue, the idea of feeling inferior to my wife's 'lover' is nothing short of a turn-off. I am, by nature and nurture, a very competitive person, and am driven by my passions. She, in turn, is also very much the same — a huge part of why I became attracted to her. So, with humiliation out of the way, I can't help but hear my wife, in her very practical way, say that the "why" doesn't really matter, this specific area on the spectrum of sexual experience does it for me and that is that. There are times I do, admittedly, feel a bit guilty when I bring this up because I happen to gravitate toward this kink more so than other kinks that we may have individually and as a couple. I don't want to be inconsiderate to her needs and overwhelm her with my desires; paradoxically, all of these desires always contain her in some element in that when I happen to see a video or an image that I find pleasurable and the only thing that gets me 'over' is imagining that it is her in that scenario.

To me, the 'why' is important — as a deeply introspective person. Perhaps I am overthinking it, give in, and enjoy the ride and stop trying to control every little thing?

As open as we have been, maybe this is a conversation I need to have with her. However, the openness in this community, which runs a wide range of perspectives, coupled with my need to be somewhat of a social creature, has me considering pressing the submit button on this post. I suppose we will find out.
 
Just my opinion for the cuckold nature, a person's history as to upbringing has allot to do with it. Most cases I feel something is missing, each individual case is different. No matter how many excuses people apply to ones sexuality, cuckolding is not normal human behavior.
I agree with you, especially your last statement about it not being normal behavior. However, I had to really let my subjective thoughts and opinions go, and just say to myself, "to each his own". Because in my mind I find it hard to think of another human being, let alone another man, lowering himself to be humiliated or seeing another man as superior to him. It is a dynamic that if I dwell on it, will drive me nuts. Maybe it's the alpha in me, who knows. I do know that as a little kid, my dad put the thought in my head to be a ruler. His exact words were "Man was born to rule all things", but added to that, he said my surname, Scott, is a strong name. I pretty much lived my life taking on hard challenges, which is why enrolling in Ranger school, and SFAS while in the army were easy choices. As to why you are drawn to the kink, maybe it's the taboo of it. But, you could spend who knows how long chasing the real "why". Ultimately, all it comes down to, you have to live with yourself, and while doing so, love and enjoy what you do. My only advice, not that you asked for or need it, is to be safe. No sense getting into this only end up having regrets or your life be affected negatively.
 
I have lurked on this site for a while. Additionally, I've done some research in trying to understand why this particular "kink" is what does it for me. There are few academic papers on why 'cuckolding' and 'hotwifing' — with a specific interracial spin — are so popular. Yet, this all feels very 'lit review' and not like it is getting to the bottom of the matter. In most cases, these explanations are unsatisfactory.

My fascination with this topic began with a revelation, from my now wife of 9 years, that she had been in a long-term relationship with an African-American man. For some reason, in part because I have always found my wife to be insanely attractive (being the amazingly beautiful and seductive white-complected woman that she is), this thought drove me wild and opened the door to this area of sensual play. As the years have gone by, I have discussed this with my wife, who has been very agreeable and open to discuss elements of her past... in detail. While this all turns me on immensely, I am always left wondering why it is that I, a man that is consistent and dependable in every way my wife could have ever wanted (economic, physically, sensually, you name it), is turned on by the thought of another man — in this case an African American man — fucking, licking, playing, etc., with her. I am a very secure man and find the idea that my wife has been treated accordingly by myself or other men and women, brought to orgasm, a satisfying thought. In other words, her pleasure has always been of utmost import.

Now, I must say that I have explored the humiliation angle to some degree and while it takes an honest man to admit to themselves that this may be the issue, the idea of feeling inferior to my wife's 'lover' is nothing short of a turn-off. I am, by nature and nurture, a very competitive person, and am driven by my passions. She, in turn, is also very much the same — a huge part of why I became attracted to her. So, with humiliation out of the way, I can't help but hear my wife, in her very practical way, say that the "why" doesn't really matter, this specific area on the spectrum of sexual experience does it for me and that is that. There are times I do, admittedly, feel a bit guilty when I bring this up because I happen to gravitate toward this kink more so than other kinks that we may have individually and as a couple. I don't want to be inconsiderate to her needs and overwhelm her with my desires; paradoxically, all of these desires always contain her in some element in that when I happen to see a video or an image that I find pleasurable and the only thing that gets me 'over' is imagining that it is her in that scenario.

To me, the 'why' is important — as a deeply introspective person. Perhaps I am overthinking it, give in, and enjoy the ride and stop trying to control every little thing?

As open as we have been, maybe this is a conversation I need to have with her. However, the openness in this community, which runs a wide range of perspectives, coupled with my need to be somewhat of a social creature, has me considering pressing the submit button on this post. I suppose we will find out.
 
Personally I think there are many reasons people get into this lifestyle. It often seems like the one pushed by many is the male being dominated or subservient in the relationship. My personal contacts however would not put that as the main reason. In twenty-seven years of swinging those who I had the opportunity to speak with had many other reasons for being into the lifestyle.

A lot of them spoke of satisfaction of their mate. That too has many forms, the male not being able to completely satisfy. The female doing whatever her man ask because she wants him to be satisfied. Cheating is the number 1 reason for splitting up so avoid that by figuring out how to add what both need openly without deception. That will be difficult for some as the thrill of deception is their kink. Some men said the turn on for them was other men wanting their mate. It generated a pride of the mate when she got other guys off. Some were completely turned on by her acting like a complete slut or whore. Some women were turned on by subjecting their mate to out of line actions but that seemed to be a small number.

I found that the watchers seemed to be as turned on watching me or other females with anyone. So were those guys just getting their mate to do things they didn’t have the balls to ask any other female to do.

My guy says he’s not a cuck. He knows and understands my history and excepts my actions. Occasionally he attends because of travel or safety. He seldom watches all of any session. I had him film and video at times but to my knowledge he never watches any of them. I include him as much or as little as he indicates he wants at the time. It worked well we are still passionate lovers and best friends.

All of this leads me to believe there is no blueprint for the lifestyle, everyone has to figure out what works for them as a couple and make that happen.
 
Personally I think there are many reasons people get into this lifestyle. It often seems like the one pushed by many is the male being dominated or subservient in the relationship. My personal contacts however would not put that as the main reason. In twenty-seven years of swinging those who I had the opportunity to speak with had many other reasons for being into the lifestyle.

A lot of them spoke of satisfaction of their mate. That too has many forms, the male not being able to completely satisfy. The female doing whatever her man ask because she wants him to be satisfied. Cheating is the number 1 reason for splitting up so avoid that by figuring out how to add what both need openly without deception. That will be difficult for some as the thrill of deception is their kink. Some men said the turn on for them was other men wanting their mate. It generated a pride of the mate when she got other guys off. Some were completely turned on by her acting like a complete slut or whore. Some women were turned on by subjecting their mate to out of line actions but that seemed to be a small number.

I found that the watchers seemed to be as turned on watching me or other females with anyone. So were those guys just getting their mate to do things they didn’t have the balls to ask any other female to do.

My guy says he’s not a cuck. He knows and understands my history and excepts my actions. Occasionally he attends because of travel or safety. He seldom watches all of any session. I had him film and video at times but to my knowledge he never watches any of them. I include him as much or as little as he indicates he wants at the time. It worked well we are still passionate lovers and best friends.

All of this leads me to believe there is no blueprint for the lifestyle, everyone has to figure out what works for them as a couple and make that happen.
What do you enjoy about this lifestyle?
 
Just a couple of thoughts.

What makes something "normal behavior"? What percentage of the population? 58% of men in a recent study report having cuckold fantasies. And I might make the argument that cuckolding is a contemporary analogue for sperm competition in primitive man.
The sperm competition stuff is interesting; I think that there may be some element of truth to it, although what really does it for me is knowing her pleasure is being maximized. Does that make sense?
 
This kink doesn’t have any specific guidelines other than what the 2 of you agree on. We have no rules on what she does or how she wants to do things ( 1 on 1, me in the room, etc). She has free reign but being humiliated by or bossed around isn’t part of our rules. All I ask for is that she’s upfront about everything, and if something happens/happened I want to know every detail! Also happy to clean her up and “reclaime” her after. This is our agreement and I’ve never felt humiliated for her coming back to me knowing another man has been all over and in my wife! So you 2 just need to hammer out your rules and fantasies and then go enjoy!
 
Just a couple of thoughts.

What makes something "normal behavior"? What percentage of the population? 58% of men in a recent study report having cuckold fantasies. And I might make the argument that cuckolding is a contemporary analogue for sperm competition in primitive man.
There is no valid study showing those numbers. The little that they have been able to deduce is that most men who are in power positions tend to have these fantasies. More about placing themselves in a position of vulnerability. These studies are woefully inaccurate showing much higher numbers than reality. Sample size, location, bias and respondents falsely misleading. The number is very very low in reality. Yes it is being pushed for the few in the lifestyle to make as much as possible. Money Money. But reality is very different.
 
There is no valid study showing those numbers. The little that they have been able to deduce is that most men who are in power positions tend to have these fantasies. More about placing themselves in a position of vulnerability. These studies are woefully inaccurate showing much higher numbers than reality. Sample size, location, bias and respondents falsely misleading. The number is very very low in reality. Yes it is being pushed for the few in the lifestyle to make as much as possible. Money Money. But reality is very different.
"One survey of 4,000 men conducted by the Kinsey Institute researcher and social psychologist Justin Lehmiller, Ph.D., found 58% of men had fantasies about sharing their partner with other men."
 
"One survey of 4,000 men conducted by the Kinsey Institute researcher and social psychologist Justin Lehmiller, Ph.D., found 58% of men had fantasies about sharing their partner with other men."
I think I'm doing that tonight for the first time. GF is out of town staying with her recently divorced sister. I didn't ask because she didn't tell me but I think tonight someone else is going to do her.
Ok, I'll be honest, if she sends me a BBC picture with him fucking her I'll still have mixed emotions but I promise I will smile. But I won't be surprised.
Until then, I'll look at other cuck pictures and realize 58% think it's OK.
Maybe when she gets back, it will liven things up more than a lot. We've been together about 15 years. She is the love of my life.
 
I have lurked on this site for a while. Additionally, I've done some research in trying to understand why this particular "kink" is what does it for me. There are few academic papers on why 'cuckolding' and 'hotwifing' — with a specific interracial spin — are so popular. Yet, this all feels very 'lit review' and not like it is getting to the bottom of the matter. In most cases, these explanations are unsatisfactory.

My fascination with this topic began with a revelation, from my now wife of 9 years, that she had been in a long-term relationship with an African-American man. For some reason, in part because I have always found my wife to be insanely attractive (being the amazingly beautiful and seductive white-complected woman that she is), this thought drove me wild and opened the door to this area of sensual play. As the years have gone by, I have discussed this with my wife, who has been very agreeable and open to discuss elements of her past... in detail. While this all turns me on immensely, I am always left wondering why it is that I, a man that is consistent and dependable in every way my wife could have ever wanted (economic, physically, sensually, you name it), is turned on by the thought of another man — in this case an African American man — fucking, licking, playing, etc., with her. I am a very secure man and find the idea that my wife has been treated accordingly by myself or other men and women, brought to orgasm, a satisfying thought. In other words, her pleasure has always been of utmost import.

Now, I must say that I have explored the humiliation angle to some degree and while it takes an honest man to admit to themselves that this may be the issue, the idea of feeling inferior to my wife's 'lover' is nothing short of a turn-off. I am, by nature and nurture, a very competitive person, and am driven by my passions. She, in turn, is also very much the same — a huge part of why I became attracted to her. So, with humiliation out of the way, I can't help but hear my wife, in her very practical way, say that the "why" doesn't really matter, this specific area on the spectrum of sexual experience does it for me and that is that. There are times I do, admittedly, feel a bit guilty when I bring this up because I happen to gravitate toward this kink more so than other kinks that we may have individually and as a couple. I don't want to be inconsiderate to her needs and overwhelm her with my desires; paradoxically, all of these desires always contain her in some element in that when I happen to see a video or an image that I find pleasurable and the only thing that gets me 'over' is imagining that it is her in that scenario.

To me, the 'why' is important — as a deeply introspective person. Perhaps I am overthinking it, give in, and enjoy the ride and stop trying to control every little thing?

As open as we have been, maybe this is a conversation I need to have with her. However, the openness in this community, which runs a wide range of perspectives, coupled with my need to be somewhat of a social creature, has me considering pressing the submit button on this post. I suppose we will find out.
I guess my appeal for the fetish all started with porn when I stumbled across it, as I got older into my teens I became hooked. It took me years to tell my fiance whom I call my wife. I for a long time was ashamed and discouraged to tell anyone until I met the mom of my *******. As soon as I told her she was hesitant but later grew to liking the idea. I for one would never ******* her but has led her to want to do porn with strictly big black cock, she wants to feel safe, desirable, and also be someone she's always thought she could be. As for the fetish I'm pretty reserved and consider myself to be to straight and faithful to my wife, but what intrigues me is there dark features and massive cocks. In order to ease her in I've brought her outfits, and only black toys as well as watching interracial porn. I'm obsessed with the idea, and truly hope my fiance craves it. I honestly think there's nothing better than a woman taking big black cock, I'm absolutely hooked and a 100% addicted. I hope this provides some insight. Big black cock is beautiful
 
"One survey of 4,000 men conducted by the Kinsey Institute researcher and social psychologist Justin Lehmiller, Ph.D., found 58% of men had fantasies about sharing their partner with other men."


That % is certainly inaccurately very low.
Surveys esp sex betray great social pressure to NOT honestly share kinks especially traditionally frowned on roles e.g. cuckold or shared wife sex.

The accurate % must be likely higher depending on survey logistics e.g. totally anonymous, when taken, etc.

Sex surveys have gotten safely private and anonymous more recently. Thus more honest and accurate.

Ex married women confess much much higher % of had sexual affairs in more recent anon surveys. Like half of wives admit it now.

We are evolved for gang bang and sharing females for casual horny fertile sex especially imvludimg alpha male chimps mounting doggy style then inviting chosen friends to help run train.

Its biology.
 
That % is certainly inaccurately very low.
Surveys esp sex betray great social pressure to NOT honestly share kinks especially traditionally frowned on roles e.g. cuckold or shared wife sex.

The accurate % must be likely higher depending on survey logistics e.g. totally anonymous, when taken, etc.

Sex surveys have gotten safely private and anonymous more recently. Thus more honest and accurate.

Ex married women confess much much higher % of had sexual affairs in more recent anon surveys. Like half of wives admit it now.

We are evolved for gang bang and sharing females for casual horny fertile sex especially imvludimg alpha male chimps mounting doggy style then inviting chosen friends to help run train.

Its biology.

I am going to go out on a limb and guess researchers at the Kinsey Institute know how to but together a solid sex survey.
 
That % is certainly inaccurately very low.
Surveys esp sex betray great social pressure to NOT honestly share kinks especially traditionally frowned on roles e.g. cuckold or shared wife sex.

The accurate % must be likely higher depending on survey logistics e.g. totally anonymous, when taken, etc.

Sex surveys have gotten safely private and anonymous more recently. Thus more honest and accurate.

Ex married women confess much much higher % of had sexual affairs in more recent anon surveys. Like half of wives admit it now.

We are evolved for gang bang and sharing females for casual horny fertile sex especially imvludimg alpha male chimps mounting doggy style then inviting chosen friends to help run train.

Its biology.
Just looking. You know.. No dog in the fight. Y'all would honestly bang one of these chics that referred to a black bull as a chimp? Frfr? Maybe I'm reading incorrectly... But why would a black man waste his time with a piece of ass referring to him as a chimp? Fuck that *******. Whoa that's real loss of respect. I would say fffuuuucckkk that bitch. Like I said I miss read a lot on this site
 
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