We need to get serious with ISIS

weaknfunny said:
You have no idea of what I am. I wouldn't consider myself as a muslim. I don't try to clean the terrible sides of muslim society either. Obviously those sickness arises from their civilization and no one can hide the fact that they have huge problems.
In my country we used to have political Islam before US's green line politics against USSR, that's true but since 60s, political islam has been supported by the US to turn muslim people against communism. Also as everyone knows Al Qaeda is found by CIA so that they fight against Soviet Army in Afghanistan (Soviet Army entered Afghanistan by the call of the Afghan government.). Later in 80s, political islam in my country was fully supported by American intelligence and Saudi money. Their popularity increased and increased each year. In the meanwhile, all opponent (of the US and political Islam) writers, intellectuals, journalist were assassinated one by one during the 80s and 90s. In total 40 modernist and socialist writers and journalists were killed in 20 years. Also During these years None of their killer was found. Anyway, as a a result of suspicious elections in 2000 G.W. Bush was chosen to be the US president. One year later Al Qaeda (your boys) attacked the World Trade Center and you finally had the chance to invade Afghanistan against the boys you have them rule there. In 2003 your president told the biggest lie to the world that Iraq had nuclear weapons although there was no proof and then you invaded Iraq illegally. You destabilized Iraq, you have caused hundred thousands of death, Al Qaeda has spread in Iraq while the country was under your control (then it turned to be ISIS). Then your army has left Iraq before the state was stabilized and you just let ISIS born in this way. Then you targeted Syria because they were a threaten against Israel (actually Israel is a threaten) and building the natural gas line from Qatar to Europe. You and your allies have armed all those radical islamist groups including ISIS and Al Nusra. You haven't only destabilized Syria, you have destroyed their countries and caused 500.000 deaths and migration of millions. Now, don't blame Assad because he was just a totaliter leader in the middle east who protects his people from a possible genocide against the minorities of Syria (alawites and christians and other secular sunnis. Yes, that's why Syrian Army still stands despite of over 60.000 death. They don't fight for Assad, they fight for their homes) and haven't harmed anyone else. If you think that dictators must be toppled, I would recommend you to start with the Saudi Arabia that is the satanic hell empire on the earth. All those Al Qaeda linked groups and ISIS use American weapons like TOW anti tank missiles and weapons bought from eastern European countries. Your governments are guilty of all those war crimes and your country is ruled by war criminals. You don't think that non Americans or non westerns are human being probably and killing us is a kind of atari game.

I hate radical Islamists so, I won't try to prove that I am not one of them anymore but I have tell you something more. Yes, you don't stone women on the street but you ******* 12 years old boys for nothing, your policemen ******* hundreds of people each year. I don't believe the US has a real democracy. Who ever is chosen, nothing changes and people have right only to choose 1 of 2 people who are serviced to them.
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So are you Russian, seems like a lot of your notions are nothing but political propoganda. Our police ******* 12 year old boys for bothing....no sir....you saw that on the news and take it as fact. Our government has done plenty of bad things around the world but we also help a whole lot of countries around the world militarily and financially.
 
weaknfunny said:
You have no idea of what I am. I wouldn't consider myself as a muslim. I don't try to clean the terrible sides of muslim society either. Obviously those sickness arises from their civilization and no one can hide the fact that they have huge problems.
In my country we used to have political Islam before US's green line politics against USSR, that's true but since 60s, political islam has been supported by the US to turn muslim people against communism. Also as everyone knows Al Qaeda is found by CIA so that they fight against Soviet Army in Afghanistan (Soviet Army entered Afghanistan by the call of the Afghan government.). Later in 80s, political islam in my country was fully supported by American intelligence and Saudi money. Their popularity increased and increased each year. In the meanwhile, all opponent (of the US and political Islam) writers, intellectuals, journalist were assassinated one by one during the 80s and 90s. In total 40 modernist and socialist writers and journalists were killed in 20 years. Also During these years None of their killer was found. Anyway, as a a result of suspicious elections in 2000 G.W. Bush was chosen to be the US president. One year later Al Qaeda (your boys) attacked the World Trade Center and you finally had the chance to invade Afghanistan against the boys you have them rule there. In 2003 your president told the biggest lie to the world that Iraq had nuclear weapons although there was no proof and then you invaded Iraq illegally. You destabilized Iraq, you have caused hundred thousands of death, Al Qaeda has spread in Iraq while the country was under your control (then it turned to be ISIS). Then your army has left Iraq before the state was stabilized and you just let ISIS born in this way. Then you targeted Syria because they were a threaten against Israel (actually Israel is a threaten) and building the natural gas line from Qatar to Europe. You and your allies have armed all those radical islamist groups including ISIS and Al Nusra. You haven't only destabilized Syria, you have destroyed their countries and caused 500.000 deaths and migration of millions. Now, don't blame Assad because he was just a totaliter leader in the middle east who protects his people from a possible genocide against the minorities of Syria (alawites and christians and other secular sunnis. Yes, that's why Syrian Army still stands despite of over 60.000 death. They don't fight for Assad, they fight for their homes) and haven't harmed anyone else. If you think that dictators must be toppled, I would recommend you to start with the Saudi Arabia that is the satanic hell empire on the earth. All those Al Qaeda linked groups and ISIS use American weapons like TOW anti tank missiles and weapons bought from eastern European countries. Your governments are guilty of all those war crimes and your country is ruled by war criminals. You don't think that non Americans or non westerns are human being probably and killing us is a kind of atari game.

I hate radical Islamists so, I won't try to prove that I am not one of them anymore but I have tell you something more. Yes, you don't stone women on the street but you ******* 12 years old boys for nothing, your policemen ******* hundreds of people each year. I don't believe the US has a real democracy. Who ever is chosen, nothing changes and people have right only to choose 1 of 2 people who are serviced to them.
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So are you Russian, seems like a lot of your notions are nothing but political propoganda. Our police ******* 12 year old boys for bothing....no sir....you saw that on the news and take it as fact. Our government has done plenty of bad things around the world but we also help a whole lot of countries around the world militarily and financially.
 
LebAussie4BBC said:
Apologies but I have watched many documentaries on the attack suprisingly made by non muslims and theyve had me doubt the whole 9/11 propagand.. its not religious its power and control.. read intobthe nwo maybe things will start to make sense. .
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Conscpiracy theorists are all over the place and i have watched many of those myself on 9/11...all their theories are easy to debunk. I love a good conspiracy and usually have a very open mind with them but those statements on 9/11 are crazy
 
Right-Wing paranoia ... seems to be their only source of existence these days.
pic_politics-ChickenLittleRepublicans.jpg ...... GIF_GrouchoMarx.gif .."The party looking for PROBLEMS in which they can provide Their Solutions!"
 
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Alanm said:
So are you Russian, seems like a lot of your notions are nothing but political propoganda. Our police ******* 12 year old boys for bothing....no sir....you saw that on the news and take it as fact. Our government has done plenty of bad things around the world but we also help a whole lot of countries around the world militarily and financially.
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No I am from Turkey. We have only Sputnik here. But our media is already A propaganda tool of Nato politics. And you Americans think that you have free media but it is a lie. Your media nothing but a propaganda brochure of CIA. Your elections are not fair as well. Whole media, celebrities support the psycho war criminal and attack Donald Trump.

This is the news about the boy Who killed by faschist and racist state. So, you lie about him too.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/25/us/tamir-rice-settlement/

I respect American People but your entire governments are war criminals.
 
Alanm said:
Are you saying most conspiracy theories are propogated by the right?
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.....I'm saying for the past 3 voting cycles (soon to be 4 voting cycles) the conservative party has used scare tactics & character assassinations to try to win voters, then present themselves as the solution to their scare tactics. One of the reasons they have the mess in their party now ... people have started wising up to their BS after 7, soon to be 8, years. Are you asking for a 'walk down memory lane' again?
.....And I'm not implying that using these scare tactics (to get voted into office) aren't effective; voters, in the past, tend to believe the repetition of negativity and BS. Its just that conservatives have leaned solely on this strategy, then, time after time, with their hollowed predictions, have not fulfilled the expectations of the voters who voted for them. Why else would they have a voter popularity of just 13% that's lasted over 5 years? Imagine how much further along this country would be in its recovery from the Great Recession had the Republicans made even the most feeble attempt to work with the President?
,,,,,This country needs a strong 2-party system for checks & balances. I've said many times, I'm liberal, but more moderate than far left ... I believe in common sense government, but this country can't bring "fiscal order" when only one part of the "cut spending, increase revenue" formula is applied. It doesn't work any better than when a fat person fails to apply both "exercise & diet" to lose weight. Leave one out, the problem comes back. Just as a fat person needs to make a lifestyle change, so does our country need to make a fiscal budget change ... starting with a balanced budget, which neither party seems to desire.
.....We desperately need age & term limits with our politicians, and to get Big Money & Lobbyist influences out of our government. Until we do, we'll continue struggling with the issues until the economy corrects itself down the road. It doesn't, however, have to happen that way.
 
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MacNfries said:
.....I'm saying for the past 3 voting cycles (soon to be 4 voting cycles) the conservative party has used scare tactics & character assassinations to try to win voters, then present themselves as the solution to their scare tactics. One of the reasons they have the mess in their party now ... people have started wising up to their BS after 7, soon to be 8, years. Are you asking for a 'walk down memory lane' again?
.....And I'm not implying that using these scare tactics (to get voted into office) aren't effective; voters, in the past, tend to believe the repetition of negativity and BS. Its just that conservatives have leaned solely on this strategy, then, time after time, with their hollowed predictions, have not fulfilled the expectations of the voters who voted for them. Why else would they have a voter popularity of just 13% that's lasted over 5 years? Imagine how much further along this country would be in its recovery from the Great Recession had the Republicans made even the most feeble attempt to work with the President?
,,,,,This country needs a strong 2-party system for checks & balances. I've said many times, I'm liberal, but more moderate than far left ... I believe in common sense government, but this country can't bring "fiscal order" when only one part of the "cut spending, increase revenue" formula is applied. It doesn't work any better than when a fat person fails to apply both "exercise & diet" to lose weight. Leave one out, the problem comes back. Just as a fat person needs to make a lifestyle change, so does our country need to make a fiscal budget change ... starting with a balanced budget, which neither party seems to desire.
.....We desperately need age & term limits with our politicians, and to get Big Money & Lobbyist influences out of our government. Until we do, we'll continue struggling with the issues until the economy corrects itself down the road. It doesn't, however, have to happen that way.
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I dont disagree but i would add the attacks from the left will be ramping up shortly...both sides do it some more than others though
 
weaknfunny said:
No I am from Turkey. We have only Sputnik here. But our media is already A propaganda tool of Nato politics. And you Americans think that you have free media but it is a lie. Your media nothing but a propaganda brochure of CIA. Your elections are not fair as well. Whole media, celebrities support the psycho war criminal and attack Donald Trump.

This is the news about the boy Who killed by faschist and racist state. So, you lie about him too.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/25/us/tamir-rice-settlement/

I respect American People but your entire governments are war criminals.
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Not sure what you mean the media is a propoganda tool for the CIA...how so?

As far as the article you posted, that was purely a case of a rookie police officer making a mistake thinking the kid had a real gun when he didnt....the kid wasnt killed on purpose just because he was black....thats ridiculous.

The entire government is war criminals??? Is our government perfect ...no its not and has it done things which have been wrong....absolutely our foreign policy is not perfect and we have committed our fair share of wrongs in the world but compared to a lot of countries around the world i will take our Gov. Over some anyday
 
LMAOOOO why would I come for you healthcare systems when they're the most expensive in the world? You're degenerate lol. I don't hate the people, your government sucks. All Americans aren't bad.
 
TheMixedVoyeur said:
LMAOOOO why would I come for you healthcare systems when they're the most expensive in the world? You're degenerate lol. I don't hate the people, your government sucks. All Americans aren't bad.
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It might be expensive but its the best. Why do you think our Gov sucks.....i mean as compared to Bashar Al Assad in Syria where they have Killed over 3,000 of its own citizens with barrel bombs in Aleppo itself...just curious how our Gov sucks worse than that.
 
BARREL Bombs don't exist in Syria. They have Bombs, yes but no Barrel Bombs. Tell me more about the US. 1 million Iraqis killed, more than a million Vietnamese killed, tell me more.
 
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