Vintage blacktowhite ... when it was really taboo

Like many have already mentioned, these are really great photos.. I can only imagine how taboo this was during these early days.. and we think it's still a little taboo even now... so the difference from then to now is an amazing accomplishment to helping it to what it is today... I can only thank them for opening up to our society
 
An artifact like that would have a great deal of value, although the value may be more to a museum (The Smithsonian for example) for what it represents than at auction.

True, but you never know what a private collector might be willing to pay for something.
I am no longer amazed at what some people will do these days. What was once most outrageous is becoming commonplace.
 
True, but you never know what a private collector might be willing to pay for something.

Its amazing what you can find and how quickly you can find it on the internet. All the geneology research that's been previously done makes it easy to pull up info on practically anyone in the 19th century and on ... I did a research on this John Carter guy (poster) ... he and his wife, Louisa were in the process of liquidating their estate and moving to the free-state of Indiana, which was the purpose of the sale. His family was tracked all the way back to Corotoman, England to John Carter I (1613-1669) who was bigtime in the slave trading industry back then. There's more info on all this in the John Carter-Brown Library.

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breaks my heart . . .

itsraylene, its a part of all of our history whether our ancestory is black or white. We should all know of how we got here. The heart break to that poster, however, is in the number of broken black marriages that occurred when black families (husbands, wives, and children) were split and sold separately to white land owners.
I'm not through researching John Carter's personal history. From what I've read thus far, it seems he had a change of heart (prior to the war) regarding slave ownership on his plantation, and I believe his wife had something to do with it, but not quite certain why. But her side of the family was responsible for setting up the Carter-Brown library. He was educated, a Baptist, and a fairly wealthy man; he probably would have been considered in the 2%ers of his time.
I was looking for a story ... the Carter family tree is rich with US history on both sides of the racial line. Back then some of the slave families took the owner's last names. :)
 
In the old days it was more clandestine then taboo... They did just what we do now only it had to be hidden from the official public eye.

People don't want to break taboos. IR sex in the time of grandpa was more of a case that people did not want to get caught doing it, not that is was fully sinful/wrong/condemned or wicked.

That might be splitting linguistic hairs... Yet that is how I see it.

http://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=177810813

This thread is blazing hot BTW.
 
thanks for the link - it's a great little loop! what do you think? early 60's? maybe even late 50's?
Yeah. Anytime from the early 60s to early 70s.Bullet bras were the rage in the 60s but many younger women worn under garments like this slut had on.
You can tell by looking at the woman's underwear the time frame of the porn. What style of bar she wears and if she had a thong or garters and panty style.

You like the REALLY old porn?

A super rare 1930s IR threeway


NO BIRTH CONTROL BACK THEN! Plus, most sex ended with the man coming inside of the woman. That or one might pull out to try and not knock her up. Rubbers were rare (they exists but were ******* bladders or intestines- jokingly called fish skins) and there was no pill.
 
Its amazing what you can find and how quickly you can find it on the internet. All the geneology research that's been previously done makes it easy to pull up info on practically anyone in the 19th century and on ... I did a research on this John Carter guy (poster) ... he and his wife, Louisa were in the process of liquidating their estate and moving to the free-state of Indiana, which was the purpose of the sale. His family was tracked all the way back to Corotoman, England to John Carter I (1613-1669) who was bigtime in the slave trading industry back then. There's more info on all this in the John Carter-Brown Library.

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very well done MacNFries, it is painful for some folks to see, but it is part of our country's history and should not be forgotten. Fortunately we have some smart and literate guys on site, so glad to see you opening up a thread that is informative..Torpedo was right, just like the Holocaust, the Middle Passage and Reconstruction has to retained. The racism and anti-Semitism is ingrained in some people and cultures. We are never very far from evil and it raises it's head periodically in genocide (Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia and lesser know locations)..so thanks and drive on..OSP
 
my favorite photo from this era - this big city hepster girl. all over the country, girls from small, conservative towns picked up and moved to nyc or san francisco looking for more in life. and that often included exploring their sexuality in a new world of black men. this girl is SO hot! and so into black . . .
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let me look around and see what other pictures i've got. i think we'll go to the 30s next.
Raylene, this pic reminds me of an article in Vanity Fair, about one of the heiresses of the Rothschild family (one of the great European financial dynasties), who was a dedicated lover of modern jazz and particularly Thelonius Monk. She supported him through thick and thin, because of his genius, he also exhibited what we now call Bi-Polar characteristics, so he was not very stable and resorted to self medication..with her wealth, she didn't care one bit what proper white society thought..proves again, love transcend color, or cultures..osp
 
thanks for the observation, osp! i checked it out and found out you are right. her name was pannonica ('nica") de koenigswarter. nica divorced her white, aristocratic husband, and she was disinherited by her family for her lifestyle in 50s america, living with jazz greats like charlie parker and especially thelonius monk. when she and monk were busted for marijuana possession, she took the rap so he could go on with his music. here's a photo of nica:
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in some circles, nica was known as the "bebop baroness."
 
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