Stag Vixen (non-cuckold)

Kara Sweet said:
What I want to know is where are the non cuckold couples. I personally would never want my man to be a cuck. If you are, then good for you. I would never want my man to do that and I think the Stag Vixen lifestyle is growing.
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We are a hotwife couple. My wife fucks for me about once per month. I am definitely not a cuck. No cum licking men in my bedroom. Just one horny husband and at least one horny bull enjoying my wife.

Kara Sweet said:
I personally love to have sex with other men. While I am the one with the control and can say no anytime, he can also say no anytime he wants.
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My wife enjoys sex with other men too. However, I am Dominant. My wife has zero control in this area. She fucks whoever I say whenever I say. This is how it should be IMO. She never gets to choose the guy. She fucks my friends or guys I bring home or guys we meet out. I've given her permission to ask me if she wants to fuck a certain guy. She has suggested guys she has previously fucked. But she knows that it is not her choice.

Kara Sweet said:
Every guy must go through him to get to me. Is there anybody else out there like us? I must say we have some very respectful bulls.
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My wife gets to fuck many men in the course of a year. I am one of the men she fucks. All of the men have a relationship with me first before they ever touch my wife. I choose respectful men. Men who disrespect me or give off a creepy vibe will never fuck my wife. She likes this arrangement. So do I. Once the bulls have her pussy, they like the arrangement too.
 
Twohavingfun said:
We are a hotwife couple. My wife fucks for me about once per month. I am definitely not a cuck. No cum licking men in my bedroom. Just one horny husband and at least one horny bull enjoying my wife.


My wife enjoys sex with other men too. However, I am Dominant. My wife has zero control in this area. She fucks whoever I say whenever I say. This is how it should be IMO. She never gets to choose the guy. She fucks my friends or guys I bring home or guys we meet out. I've given her permission to ask me if she wants to fuck a certain guy. She has suggested guys she has previously fucked. But she knows that it is not her choice.


My wife gets to fuck many men in the course of a year. I am one of the men she fucks. All of the men have a relationship with me first before they ever touch my wife. I choose respectful men. Men who disrespect me or give off a creepy vibe will never fuck my wife. She likes this arrangement. So do I. Once the bulls have her pussy, they like the arrangement too.
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In the world we live in today and in the eyes of some men and women on here, the Dominance that you demand from your wife, would be frowned on, and you would be considered cruel and selfish. I think the world needs men like you so I am not one of those people.
 
Hottobe cucked said:
In the world we live in today and in the eyes of some men and women on here, the Dominance that you demand from your wife, would be frowned on, and you would be considered cruel and selfish. I think the world needs men like you so I am not one of those people.
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I think so too. And I realize that there are differences among men.

I understand that I am not what the modelers of our society wish me to be. They want men in Western societies to be feminized. They prefer men to be emasculated, to some extent. Which is all the more reason I share what I am with people I am close to and, in a measured way, on social media. But mostly I am proud of the woman who serves me by choice. She is *not a door mat. She is strong of will. She is more highly educated than I am. She earns more than I do. But she knows that she needs what I have to offer. She enjoys the quiet I give her mind when I fuck her pussy as if I am nailing boards to our bed. She enjoys the pride I have in her when I give her to other men to fuck and use forcefully and aggressively. It is her primal way of serving me and serving men, in general. It works for us.
 
chiblkstud said:
I think you mean Cuckold not Hotwife. Hotwife doesn't imply any humiliating where as Cuckolding might.
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Hotwife is a general descriptor but has been so often paired with cuckold that it has become inseparable in the minds of many: hotwife/cuckold vs vixen/stag. Since I like to be clear about our preferences, I prefer to use a term that immediately conveys a vixen/stag form of wife-sharing: vixing.

This is especially true because Queen of Spades also tends to be perceived by default as cuckold, black superiority, etc., so I want to immediately convey that we're not into those dimensions, I simply enjoy (really enjoy) orgasming to black cocks. :)

Most of the guys I meet are just regular local guys and prefer their in-person play to be normal sex, at least that's been true of the majority of guys I've met. They specifically ask about our preference and my husband's status, because they aren't really into cuckold when it comes to in-person encounters (rather than online fantasy). Nothing at all wrong with hotwife/cuck play, I simply want a way to convey the nuance of our preference to prospective bbcs
 
May someone please try to explain how any man whos wife or girlfriend is having sex with other men is not a cuckold. I am not saying that he personally has to get physically or sexually involved but a woman cuckolds her man as soon as she has sex with others. We can try to make it seem more moral or be ashamed of what we are but, all these other titles does not illuminate the fact that being cuckolded is the action of a wife or girlfriend having sex with a man other than her mate. Why are we trying to sugarcoat what a cuckold and cuckoldress are. No offence intended just want someone to show me where this changes occurred.
 
Hottobe cucked said:
May someone please try to explain how any man whos wife or girlfriend is having sex with other men is not a cuckold. I am not saying that he personally has to get physically or sexually involved but a woman cuckolds her man as soon as she has sex with others. We can try to make it seem more moral or be ashamed of what we are but, all these other titles does not illuminate the fact that being cuckolded is the action of a wife or girlfriend having sex with a man other than her mate. Why are we trying to sugarcoat what a cuckold and cuckoldress are. No offence intended just want someone to show me where this changes occurred.
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From Wikipedia.

Cuckold
A cuckold is the husband of an adulterous wife. In evolutionary biology, the term is also applied to males who are unwittingly investing parental effort in offspring that are not genetically their own.

So, I don't understand why you are under the impression that any man who let's his wife fuck other men is a cuckold? Are swingers cuckolds? Or are you saying just white men who let black men fuck their wives? To me, the confusing part is why anyone thinks that men who let their wives fuck other men are some how relegated to the cuckold realm.

I see it differently. The following are my opinions. I am not trying to offend anyone. If you think I'm wrong, please give me your opinion.

From my vantage, the cuckold male is
(1) Submissive to the wife to some degree
(2) Submissive to the men who fuck their wives
(3) Attracted to the black male (likely because the cuckold is submissive and the black male is usually Dominant)
(4) Possibly gay or at the least, bisexual with a strong desire to have sex with other men
(5) I feel many cuckold men bait their wives into fucking black men so that the cuckold himself can have contact with the black men
(6) Cuckolds seem to enjoy being humiliated

So, no, I am not a member of any of those categories. I am not a cuckold male. It is my belief that most males who share their wives are also not cuckold.
 
It's important to not let the labels get in the way of things. A cuckold is not specifically a beta or sissy or anything else. A cuckold is simply a man who is turned on by his wife being with other men, that's it. There are many SUB-modules of the lifestyle that you can include for sure. Porn is catering to their prime demographic, guys who are likely single and lost in fantasy. We all know that the porn depiction is maybe 2% of the actual people in the lifestyle (mostly because its stupid).

Sub, alpha, beta, stag, etc....useless labels. There are forty different variations of the lifestyle and a hundred micro-components within that. No two will be exactly the same. Decisions on BBC only or no, babies, live-ins, hubby's participation, clean up, relationship roles, and so much more will vary greatly even among similar-minded couples.

So just go do you, and stop worrying about what label people may be assigning to it. It's a cuckold lifestyle with a thousand choices.
 
Twohavingfun said:
From Wikipedia.

Cuckold
A cuckold is the husband of an adulterous wife. In evolutionary biology, the term is also applied to males who are unwittingly investing parental effort in offspring that are not genetically their own.

So, I don't understand why you are under the impression that any man who let's his wife fuck other men is a cuckold? Are swingers cuckolds? Or are you saying just white men who let black men fuck their wives? To me, the confusing part is why anyone thinks that men who let their wives fuck other men are some how relegated to the cuckold realm.

I see it differently. The following are my opinions. I am not trying to offend anyone. If you think I'm wrong, please give me your opinion.

From my vantage, the cuckold male is
(1) Submissive to the wife to some degree
(2) Submissive to the men who fuck their wives
(3) Attracted to the black male (likely because the cuckold is submissive and the black male is usually Dominant)
(4) Possibly gay or at the least, bisexual with a strong desire to have sex with other men
(5) I feel many cuckold men bait their wives into fucking black men so that the cuckold himself can have contact with the black men
(6) Cuckolds seem to enjoy being humiliated

So, no, I am not a member of any of those categories. I am not a cuckold male. It is my belief that most males who share their wives are also not cuckold.
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And unfortunately, almost everything you said in this post is incorrect. A cuckold is one thing by Websters Dictionary, but it is another when defined by lifestyle. You shouldn't post about things you don't understand.
 
I shouldn't do what? I totally understand. Some don't want to be thought of as a cuck, others take pride in being one. I am in my 60's and my ******* was cucked by my mom. it was nothing like todays all inclusive Cuckold Fetish, which is the proper term for cucks who want humiliation plus all the fetishes that go with it. I don't care what anyone prefers to call it. I am not judging them. I am just trying to voice my understanding to be a help to someone.
 
Hottobe cucked said:
I shouldn't do what? I totally understand. Some don't want to be thought of as a cuck, others take pride in being one. I am in my 60's and my ******* was cucked by my mom. it was nothing like todays all inclusive Cuckold Fetish, which is the proper term for cucks who want humiliation plus all the fetishes that go with it. I don't care what anyone prefers to call it. I am not judging them. I am just trying to voice my understanding to be a help to someone.
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But your understanding is completely wrong. You have characterized a cuckold as one specific thing according to the 6 definitions you laid out. And that is simply not true.
 
Myhunger said:
But your understanding is completely wrong. You have characterized a cuckold as one specific thing according to the 6 definitions you laid out. And that is simply not true.

From my vantage, the cuckold male is
(1) Submissive to the wife to some degree
(2) Submissive to the men who fuck their wives
(3) Attracted to the black male (likely because the cuckold is submissive and the black male is usually Dominant)
(4) Possibly gay or at the least, bisexual with a strong desire to have sex with other men
(5) I feel many cuckold men bait their wives into fucking black men so that the cuckold himself can have contact with the black men
(6) Cuckolds seem to enjoy being humiliated
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I am certain that my understanding is the same understanding that the majority of men and women have of cuckolding. The six items I listed are the common traits in today's cuckold male. Don't believe my word only... simply go to the cuckolding forum on this site and read the posts. You will witness cuckold males salivating over these black men. My opinion is that sex with the black men is what the cuckold wants. Their wives being fucked and used by an aggressive, well hung black man is a secondary desire, if at all. Again, my opinion.

The cuckold definition, in any reputable forum, is usually found to include a form of humiliation of the husband (or bf). There is an implication that the woman is cheating. There is an implication that the man doesn't know. Poor lonely man. He's raising children that came from the balls of another man. But in my household, I know that my wife is being fucked by other men. I approve of it. In fact, I demand that she do it. It is certainly not infidelity. But don't expect me to salivate over the black man. I will salivate over my used wife if he fucks her well. But don't expect me to lick another man's cum from her pussy or talk about how superior black cum is. Those are cuckold traits. They have nothing to do with the rest of us. So, in no way does the word cuckold cover the hotwife lifestyle. They are completely separate forms of a sexually open lifestyle. I respect each person in either lifestyle, but let's not call an apple an orange.
 
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Twohavingfun said:
I am certain that my understanding is the same understanding that the majority of men and women have of cuckolding. The six items I listed are the common traits in today's cuckold male. Don't believe my word only... simply go to the cuckolding forum on this site and read the posts. You will witness cuckold males salivating over these black men. My opinion is that sex with the black men is what the cuckold wants. Their wives being fucked and used by an aggressive, well hung black man is a secondary desire, if at all. Again, my opinion.

The cuckold definition, in any reputable forum, is usually found to include a form of humiliation of the husband (or bf). There is an implication that the woman is cheating. There is an implication that the man doesn't know. Poor lonely man. He's raising children that came from the balls of another man. But in my household, I know that my wife is being fucked by other men. I approve of it. In fact, I demand that she do it. It is certainly not infidelity. But don't expect me to salivate over the black man. I will salivate over my used wife if he fucks her well. But don't expect me to lick another man's cum from her pussy or talk about how superior black cum is. Those are cuckold traits. They have nothing to do with the rest of us. So, in no way does the word cuckold cover the hotwife lifestyle. They are completely separate forms of a sexually open lifestyle. I respect each person in either lifestyle, but let's not call an apple an orange.
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Your opinion, exactly. Your opinion of the lifestyle is not being helpful to those in it, or those looking to explore it. Leave that to those who are actually living it. I have been in the lifestyle for over 15 years. Your post is biased and negative and completely inaccurate.

Does that describe a portion of those in the lifestyle? Sure. But you are indicating that this is the norm as opposed to the exception, and that is damaging to the lifestyle.

Hotwife is a subset of the cuckold lifestyle. Its a different set of options within the context. Again, getting hung up on the terms is stupid.

I am done with this.
 
Cuckold does not mean humiliation, creampies, chastity and so many more kinks and fetishes but, all can be added by choice with these addons giving it the modern day title of Cuckold Fetish. I think the issue here with calling Cuckolds Stags and Cuckoldresses as Vixens of Hotwires is a simple one. Some people don't want to be looked upon as being in a cuckold relationship. As soon as any wife has sex with a man other then her husband, the man she has had sex with has cuckolded (a verb) her husband. We become a cuckold ( a noun ).

I found this on line and found it enlightening.

Here's the truth:
REAL cuckolds today are not pushovers, weaklings, idiots, or anything else derogatory.
Cuckolds are men who have found a niche sexual fetish that appeals to them and makes them happy.
They aren't causing harm, and they don't deserve to be publicly shamed.
 
Kara Sweet said:
Great comments, thanks. It gets so tiring with the cuckold genre degrading white husbands. Without them the black guys wouldn't be fucking white wives like me. It takes a strong man to share his wife with confidence. I have had sex with a lot of black guys and I do want to say 1 thing. Most of them (not all) try to get me off with their body first. On the other hand some just try to get off with my body. So thanks to the good ones.
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Kara , not all cuckholds are submissive or humiliated. By definition , their wives have sex with other men. As this seems to be more popular today as more women are exposed to opportunities for sex outside marraige , more husbands are dealing with their hotwives. For some this has added new excitement to marraiges that were becoming dull and boring. For others with sexual difficulties , this provides a solution to a problem that was limiting the marraiage.
 
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