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Socialism.
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more facts for you to ignore so you can spout your right wing BS
The 1896 realignment cemented the Republicans as the party of big businesses while Theodore Roosevelt added more small business support by his embrace of trust busting. He handpicked his successor William Howard Taft in 1908, but they became enemies as the party split down the middle.
Republicans and Big Government | Mises Institute
https://mises.org/library/republicans-and-big-government
Contrary to popular myth, every Republican president since and including Herbert Hoover has increased the federal government's size, scope, or power--and usually all three. Over the last one hundred years, of the five presidents who presided over the largest domestic spending increases, four were Republicans.
Big Government Republicans | HuffPost
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May 25, 2011 · In labeling Democrats as the "party of big government," Republicans may have pulled off the most audacious public relations coup since Austria persuaded the world that Hitler was a German. When President Bush took office, the government was running a budget surplus and was on its way to paying off the national debt.
Re read his post that's exactly what he proposed
I'm talking YOUR post
your words..... "Did you suggest a new government agency to watch other government agencies. Every time he goes near those programs the screaming starts from the left"
and just like my post says....the right is big on big government....they like that *******....just gives them another excuse to make gov bigger
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yes....are you trying to divert the subject again....something you like to do when you fuck up...…….
you right away started in on the liberals this and that with the more government statement...….I just pointed out that your party is the party of big government and out of control spending....
so adding another department is something the right would probably jump right on.....you seem offended by the facts that the right is the party of big gov!.....something you should be well aware of since it is what you support
on top of that he was being hypothetical.....you were trying to twist it to suit your own purpose....anti liberal!
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We are not attacking corporations, But endeavoring to do away with any evil in them. We are not hostile towards them: we are merely determined that they shall be so handled as to subserve the public good. We draw the line against misconduct, not against wealth!
Theodore Roosevelts state of the union address in 1902
Quick reminder that the diversionary arguments above are irrelevant. Points at hand are-
- Medicare for all is cheaper than the current US healthcare system.
- There’s a direct correlation between Medicare for all and longevity.
- More Americans go bankrupt due to medical care than any other country on the planet.
- America has the most expensive healthcare system on the planet.
- The most wealthy country that has ever existed cannot figure out how to make healthcare a human right when far less wealthy countries do so.
Since when is republican for more government
It is baffling that people are ideologically opposed to properly funded public healthcare systems. You guys are being ripped off and you seem to love that and want to rigorously defend it!
they SAY one thing and DO another....have for a long time...…...check the facts....you pick the site...…..they say they want smaller gov and yet it always increases when they are in power...….they like to say they are fiscal conservative.....sure said it plenty under Obama....and yet everytime we have had a republican president the spending/deficit has gone up....posted that several time.....but you are not interested in anything that isn't good about your party
Republicans and Big Government | Mises Institute
https://mises.org/library/republicans-and-big-government
Contrary to popular myth, every Republican president since and including Herbert Hoover has increased the federal government's size, scope, or power--and usually all three. Over the last one hundred years, of the five presidents who presided over the largest domestic spending increases, four were Republicans.
The Numbers Don’t Lie: Republicans Are Bigger Spenders ...
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Presidents try to deflect and/or preempt criticism, so that leads Democrats to be cautious about spending money (they don’t want to be called “big spenders”) and it leads Republicans to squander a lot of cash (they don’t want to be called “heartless” or “mean”). The party...
Every President has added to deficet none have touched debt except jackson
Just Like Socialism, Bernie Collapsed Under His Own Contradictions
In a single interview, Bernie Sanders may’ve demolished the effort to convince the American electorate he is a perfectly benign ‘democratic socialist.’
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Don't forget bailouts for the poor who are straving, can't afford rent and to eat or rent and healthcare is "evil socialism" but bailouts for the rich when they lose $500,000 but still have dozens of mansions, planes, $100,000+ cars, yahcts and still rake in $5000+ per hr wages plus full benfits plus bonus running the economey into the ground is good and necessary.
This is a fairly ignorant question. First off just because these programs are paid by tax dollars doesn't make them socialist". Secondly, we can have a universal health care system without being a socialist government. Here is a snip-it that explains it well.
It's one of those narratives that refuses to die. It's used by Leftists to warm up ignorant people to the idea of socialism through normalization. You see, you've already been living your life surrounded by socialist institutions and you didn't even realize it until now! Oh socialism isn't THAT bad!
It's a purposeful lie or a lie repeated by newbie Leftist that are just parroting what they've heard from other Leftists.
Socialism and capitalism are economic models that concern themselves primarily with what's done with the surplus product created by profitable industries. Capitalism says that the profits belong to the owner of the business and it is up to them to determine pretty much all aspects of running their business. Socialism, either through state-control/regulatory bodies/workers councils, carries out the will of the workers to equitably redistribute the wealth created by industries.
With that in mind, a road does not generate a profit, the police do not participate in the market, students do not receive wages for their "work" and libraries do not typically sell products in order to become wealthy. Collecting taxes to pay for public services and welfare programs is not socialist. Every modern country has roads, public schools and police officers, that doesn't make them inherently socialist. Ancient rome had highways, public bathhouses and aqueducts but this doesn't mean they invented socialism.
I've seen some attempt to say that universities are socialist institutions due to tuitions, enrollment and profits from sports events being central to their continued operation. The critical difference is that these profits are not passed on to "workers" (students) who make up the body of the school and the students do not have a prominent role in how the school's money is spent, that role belongs to the administration.
Not all government action is socialist just because you happen to enjoy or benefit from it. When someone repeats "Do you like roads, police, fire departments etc." Ask them "How much gross profit did your fire department make last year?"
well maybe....but if so 2 wrongs don't make a right...….well with you being a trump supporter maybe it does
It most certainly will, Akguy ... "your chosen life style" is but one piece of the overall health insurance costs. Wellness benefits cost YOU as the insured NOTHING out of pocket ... you get your annual exam each year, your children & spouse get theirs for free ... and they determine whether you are a tobacco user or ******* or alcohol user, and whether you need a medication for things like high ******* pressure, diabetes, etc ... all paid for by the insurance. And if you choose NOT to use the medical plan they provide you, THEN it becomes YOUR issue. I can assure you, however, if you don't use your Ten Essential Services provided free. they'll be calling you AND writing you.
Ah so a broker encourages you to invest in a certain way (by not telling YOU the whole story) and its YOUR FAULT? Nope I won't buy that.
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