If you let men suck your dick, you's gay, not a bull

I'm interested in why it matters to you that the word gay be included. I'm with you on deception. People need to be honest about what they want. But you seem to be of the opinion that people can't be both dominant and bi, or both alpha and gay.

The reason many see the power play role as "not gay" is that the men don't seek each other out as play partners. In many cases, there is ZERO sexual attraction. In these cases, the bull wouldn't let the man suck him off alone. If he wasn't doing it as part of some power play, to show dominance and/or make a fantasy happen for the wife and submissive, he wouldn't do it at all. I've heard one prominent bull (who, like it or not, is a respected voice in the cuckold lifestyle) describe it on podcasts like this:

"Some bulls will do it as a show if dominance and power exchange, but she has to be a part of it. She better not get up and go to the bathroom. When the woman isn't there, it becomes something else and that kind of play stops."

In BDSM and power play, hierarchy, obedience, etc. can trump things like sexual attraction. It's not always about deception. Some of these people aren't hiding anything. Many are very upfront about not specifically looking for male-on-male contact, but being willing to explore certain things in a dominance/submission context. They're not in the closet or in denial, they are describing the way they think and feel about their own experiences.

It's clear that YOU consider a man gay if he says, "come here and suck this dick, cuck. Get it nice and hard. I'm gonna use it to fuck your wife's white pussy, the way she's been wanting to get fucked for a long time. This big dick is going in that woman over there, and you're not going to stop me, are you?" It's absolutely fine if that's something you're not into, and you can call it whatever you want to call it. But clearly, there are people here who consider it less about a label. In a lot of cases, the reason it's something people want to try is specifically BECAUSE they are not attracted to other men. What they are looking for is taking a submissive concensually outside their own comfort zone. "I know you don't WANT to suck cock, but your Queen just told you to. You're not going to disobey her, are you?" It's no different from letting yourself be strapped to a bench and spanked or flogged. The idea isn't that you like all pain. It's that it's exciting to sustain discomfort at the hands of someone else as an act of submission.

Obviously, consent needs to be discussed. People's limits need to be known before play ever starts, and respected. If someone says they don't want any male-on-male contact of any kind, that should be enough to tell ALL INVOLVED, be they top or bottom, Dom or sub, male or female, that there's a hard line in the sand that won't be crossed. It's not a thing you can try again in the moment. It's off the table, just like any other hard limit.

Is a man sucking another man's cock an act of bisexuality? Absolutely. So it's fine if that's all it takes to make someone "gay" in your eyes. But I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplishing by making sure others know that about you. What difference does it make to try to correct someone, who just told you that to them it's more about power, to make damn sure they know that YOU think that's "gay power?"

TL;DR: not all who say, "I'm not gay but..." are in denial or being sneaky. Some just disagree with you about the nuances of an activity you are obviously aren't into and don't want to understand.
Men sucking off other men is gay. Period. Gaaaaaaaaay! That should be a would be cock suckers business, not mine. State what you're about up front. That's all there is to it. There is no rocket science to this. No dissertation is required.

Go out and ask anyone if a man sucking another's cock is gay and guaranteed, they will tell you it's what it is, GAY.

They will not get into any discussion about situational dynamics, and conclude the cock sucker is bi.

It is what it is.
 
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Grammer and grammar, two different meanings, and also regional uses.
Yes, two different meanings indeed. Grammer is a proper noun.


Come on, are you really going to try to tell me you didn't mean to say grammar? What region are you from that's collectively decided to misspell that word? You have to admit, it's kinda funny that you were talking about spelling and grammar, but wrote "grammer." It's totally the kind of mistake anybody could have made. I'm notorious for stuff like that myself. But it's objectively funny!
 
Men sucking off other men is gay. Period. Gaaaaaaaaay! That should be a would be cock suckers business, not mine. State what you're about up front. That's all there is to it. There is no rocket science to this. No dissertation is required.

Go out and ask anyone if a man sucking another's cock is gay and guaranteed, they will tell you it's what it is, GAY.

They will not get into any discussion about situational dynamics, and conclude the cock sucker is bi.

It is what it is.
Go on a gay dating site, and say you're "gay" because you're willing to situationally suck a man's cock, if and only if your female wife, with whom you regularly have sex and don't plan to leave, orders you to do it. See if they agree that you're gay, and not maybe something else, like maybe situationally bi, bi-curious, etc.

Again, is the act gay? Sure. Is the man gay? I dunno. Is he into dudes? Is he also into ladies? Does he only do it because it's taboo?

But none of that is really the point anyway. I get it. YOU think that's gay, no matter what. Cool. Lots of people recognize we have the word "bisexual" for a reason, but you refuse. We get it. My original question stands:

WHY DO YOU CARE?

What are you accomplishing by trying to assure men who identify as anywhere on the spectrum of bisexuality that they are all wrong, and in fact, purely homosexual? What is your goal?
 
Haven't you heard?

You can pick to be whatever gender you want now, from an absurd list, and you can also choose a sexual orientation from an equally absurd list, and pick a flavor of the day/week, depending on what delusions you are suffering from on any given day. You can pretend to be anything you want and expect everyone around you to accept your delusion and be ****** to participate in your broken reality. Gay today, straight tomorrow, an attack helicopter on Thursday, and a pansexual alien unicorn over the weekend.
The most dominant acting men tend to be overcompensating and want to control and usually behind closed doors swing both ways if it means getting off from a place of power. Humiliation kinks are used in lieu of not having a deep meaningful connection to your lover. I find being within 3 feet of another male member disgusting, creepy and awkward as fuk.
Well said.
 
Who made you the boss? A bull can be bi and still be a bull. You trying to ignore something about yourself by trying to tell everyone the rules (as you see it)? I sure as hell ain’t going to live my life by arbitrary rules set forth by some clown on the I internet. Live and let live man.
 
And you think it's no big deal. Then tell your ******* you sucked another man's dick or vice versa.
And you think it is a big deal. Why? I don't know about you, but I'm not in the habit of talking to my children about the specifics of kink play, so no, I don't think too many people are going to share these details with their *******. But that doesn't mean they should be ashamed. Personally I'll be here to answer my own *******' questions honestly, and arm them with knowledge and support so they can find their own way. I can tell you one thing for sure, though: if one of my ******* expresses attraction or confusion about a member of the same sex, they'll get nothing but love and support from me.

Then live your life sucking dick
I mean, I think that's the plan, for people who enjoy that. Most people generally do what makes them happy, barring a bunch of repression. How does that concern you in any way? Do you have the same problem with women who make out with each other?
 
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Some mom fuckas try to get sneaky with it...they'll let you fuck his wife but they gotta suck yo dick.. It's mom fucking package deal... If not its a deal breaker....Fuck that! I aint that hard up for sum pussy to let a dude suck my dick...🤣🤣🤣
Right, but some women and some bulls are sneaky about various things, too. That's never ok, and I don't think anyone here would defend deceptive behavior. Limits and wishes should always be respected.
 
Go on a gay dating site, and say you're "gay" because you're willing to situationally suck a man's cock, if and only if your female wife, with whom you regularly have sex and don't plan to leave, orders you to do it. See if they agree that you're gay, and not maybe something else, like maybe situationally bi, bi-curious, etc.

Again, is the act gay? Sure. Is the man gay? I dunno. Is he into dudes? Is he also into ladies? Does he only do it because it's taboo?

But none of that is really the point anyway. I get it. YOU think that's gay, no matter what. Cool. Lots of people recognize we have the word "bisexual" for a reason, but you refuse. We get it. My original question stands:

WHY DO YOU CARE?

What are you accomplishing by trying to assure men who identify as anywhere on the spectrum of bisexuality that they are all wrong, and in fact, purely homosexual? What is your goal?
I have entertained your dumb ass long enough. Time to put you on the ignore list.
 
Today, I peepsed a couple pages of the Media section to see if any Real People on here posted anything new since I have my favorites whose stuff I check out, and to my surprise, I saw one person whose name I shall keep to myself, letting a husband suck him off. This was the second time I saw something like this in about two weeks.

I saw it one time here and while watching a vid from this guy called Black Panther XXX on pornhub.

On both occasions, I was shocked beyond measure and thought, so is that what a bull is?

I guess I had the definition wrong all along. I thought a bull was a straight male who was a dominant figure in a cuckold couple's sex life. By dominant, somehow being the recipient of a blow job from another man never struck me as being truly alpha male.

I guess that's why so many gay men flock to this website and fake being a woman or a couple. Comments about the definition of a bull welcome.
I doubt very much there are any GAY men here. I believe they have much better resources than a site for couples like us. I have been cuckold for almost 4 decades and recently sucked my first black ALPHA BULLS load and I can tell you for sure I am not gay but I am a sincere and genuine submissive cuckold like 95 % or more of the real cuckolds on this web site are.
 
This thread feels like the equivalent of "If you eat yellow Starburst you're gay"🤣
Alot Little Dick Energy here man.
What's very GAY is worrying about what another man is doing in his sheets. Worry about yourself
Another retard who cannot read and comprehend basic English. Ignore list for you too. Next.
 
Some mom fuckas try to get sneaky with it...they'll let you fuck his wife but they gotta suck yo dick.. It's mom fucking package deal... If not its a deal breaker....Fuck that! I aint that hard up for sum pussy to let a dude suck my dick...🤣🤣🤣
Lol. I hear you.
 
This is simple . . . if you have a dick . . . and you touch a dick . . . and it's not your own . . . and you're not a doctor . . . then dude you are a homo! OK? LOLOLOL!!!
It's so strange. I've never seen someone run around calling women who live straight lives but maybe experimented a few times in college "dykes" or "lesbos." What is the goal or point of calling otherwise straight men who experiment "homos?"
 
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