Truth.. As the cuckold who was in this lifestyle with my ex-wife we discussed this very thing....We both had similar yet different reasons: hers was that she needed more than I could give her and since her lovers satisfied her completly her that she didn't feel a need other than a marital partner obligation to have sex with me. So really it came down to whether I wanted to have sex with her vs her wanting it from me. I felt less compelled to have sex with her because she once told me how much better her lover(s) were and that she wanted her pussy fresh for them and wouldn't have sex with me 2-3 days before they were going to be together. That was ok for casual planned dates but with exclusive boyfriends came into it we never knew when they would appear and it was so frequent I mainly masterbated to them so my desire or need to be with my ex was satisfied by seeing her satisfied...and that in turn made her happier seeing me masturbate to them or in the act of some role play in front of them...so there was no more reason to have sex..lots of other things we did for each other but yea, if with a boyfriend thats exclusive, my sex stopped but I still got off just as hard and satisfied..... And us having sex would interfere with her relationship with her boyfriend...we both wanted him to be her primary sexual provider since he would be the perfect sex partner..fit, inshape, bigger hung cock....and she only wanted and desired his cock and cum inside her at that moment not mine or anyone elses..sex with me would get in the way of her focus that should be on him..which my ex-did admit was correct and should be my focus..hers was his sexual pleasure, his should be her pleasure and mine should be hers first and then them as a couple second....encouraging, facilitating their frequent mating, copulation or whatever you want to call it...She liked to call it mating...because it was such a primal desire she got from a boyfriend but not just limited to sex ..she was with him for many other reasons besides sex. and where being exclusive could lead for us both as a couple and where it could take the bull as well..For her and us being exclusive meant she was in love with a choice male and whereever that lead them I was expected to follow...whether it be moving in, staying, children, whateverCheating is lying. I don't lie to my husband and he doesn't lie to me. Neither of us tolerates lies. Lies can destroy a relationship. He knows all about what I do.
.[Neither of us would want or wish that I become completely denied (we have a very fulfilling sex life) its seems natural that the frequency of penetrative sex for me declines.
Husbands become cuckolds because for one reason or another they're incapable of providing a woman with adequate sex ... For starters, we cuckolds don't have the ability to do much more than disappoint and frustrate women during our lame attempts at sex in the first place. That's why we don't deserve to have erections and orgasms, let alone fail again at intercourse.
You have heard of Pandoras Box ? Opening / exposing women/wives to BBC and sex with "talented" black men is a bit like opening Pandoras Box. Most of these women become consumed by sex with black men such that it has become more open and more public in recent years perhaps because of the antiracist and integration movements underway in societies today. Wives quickly become sluts for BBC. Some become willing and enthusiastic whores and prostitutes fufilling lifelong sexual fantasies. So where on the husbands on all of this? Those that remain and some do leave or are divorced from their slut wives but most do stay , find themselves with a very different sexually aggressive woman who demands great sex. Some husbands are able to continue to satisfy these sexual amazon females. Mostly these are large muscular athletic white males with porportionally large white cocks. The average white male / typical white husband is unable to compete unless he learns the ways and techiques of the black sexual male. The first is to be totally dominant. The second is to be virile with great stamina and prolonging sex for hours vs minutes ( or seconds ). The third is full body sex with oral, vaginal , and anal sex fully consuming the female body and every sexual orifice. The fouth is to perpetuate multiple female orgasms while withholding the male orgasm and semen from the woman. Her sexual needs are both orgasims and securing the male semen within her body and she will continue with sex until she receives it. ( Once she has converted to black sexuality ). Often this is swallowing the black mans cum via oral sex but many seek his cum deep inside her vagina for full satisfaction as a woman. White husbands who adopt these methods do not find themselves as submissives or as subordinates to the black man. Perhaps not quite equals but still able to compete for the sexual favors of their new sexually slut and perhaps whore wivesBeing new to this forum, I must say I am very intrigued and this thread is incredibly interesting.
Firstly, I do appreciate two adults living their lives free of judgment and with self-determination. I certainly recognize the submissive fetish being played here. I keep returning to the blurry boundaries of what is a fetish and what would be considered abuse/manipulation/coercion. It seems like certain couples are playing the insecurities of their partner to get the best of both worlds -- sex and companionship -- while simultaneously denying some aspects to the other. After a certain point, when does the sexual fantasy becoming more about manuipulation. I found a couple of quotes disturbing:
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Why is this a natural consequence? Since neither wants this why would this be ideal? I thought being submissive was only in certain areas.
I found this to be the most troubling as it strikes me as true. The cuckold man allowing his wife to manipulate him and deny him isn't' entirely based on insecurity. It seems like the sexual fantasy is actually manipulation on the insecurities on the partner. It seems gas-lighting a partner about their inadequacies to obtain an optimal outcome for one member of the partnership has taken place. Do these partners truly have independent consent under no duress? Do these husbands think that their wives will leave them if they set more firm boundaries or demand sex?
I understand sex isn't the only aspect but this quote strikes me as the core of this discussion. From an outside perspective, it seems like the husband needs are neglected or dismissed because sexual satisfaction is purely HIS responsibility. It is due to HIS inadequacy. As such he is not deserving or any sex. This seems counter-intuitive to the more healthy submissive dynamic.
Perhaps I don't understand the nuances of this fetish. Perhaps there are key components I am missing. However, I keep asking myself if a man denied his wife sex only to find another woman citing his wife was not meeting his needs sexually then wouldn't people consider that "abuse" or "manipulative"?
Been there with Susan as the "uninformed" "uneducated" white husband. Over the years, I have become more informed and more educated about the real and true sexual needs of women that many black men fufill what seems to be naturally but more often comes with education from other black males. Women seek the Alpha male and too many white men are so busy "pleasing" women today they are no longer , if ever they were , the Alpha male.yes it is true and over the years my wife has had many boyfriends. when she had some of them it was sex just with them and i didn't get any at all.
Usually , and most often , part of the plan. Husbands can interfere with the wives conversion to BBC so they often remain apart during sex sessions with the BBC. Later , as the conversion is well underway, the husband can be closer and perhaps assist and participate.One thing is for sure, when My BF was at our house, my husband could hardly even touch me; much less do anything else!
One of the more typical white husband responses , and mine too at first. What it seems you have/ had not done was to observe and learn black sexual methods. Obviously, many black males have very large cocks and perhaps large muscular bodies and for most of us that will never be us. Still , we can learn how black males seduce our wives and copy their practices and behavior such that we are less Beta and more Alpha and reclaim our sexual priviledges.Truth.. As the cuckold who was in this lifestyle with my ex-wife we discussed this very thing....We both had similar yet different reasons: hers was that she needed more than I could give her and since her lovers satisfied her completly her that she didn't feel a need other than a marital partner obligation to have sex with me. So really it came down to whether I wanted to have sex with her vs her wanting it from me. I felt less compelled to have sex with her because she once told me how much better her lover(s) were and that she wanted her pussy fresh for them and wouldn't have sex with me 2-3 days before they were going to be together. That was ok for casual planned dates but with exclusive boyfriends came into it we never knew when they would appear and it was so frequent I mainly masterbated to them so my desire or need to be with my ex was satisfied by seeing her satisfied...and that in turn made her happier seeing me masturbate to them or in the act of some role play in front of them...so there was no more reason to have sex..lots of other things we did for each other but yea, if with a boyfriend thats exclusive, my sex stopped but I still got off just as hard and satisfied..... And us having sex would interfere with her relationship with her boyfriend...we both wanted him to be her primary sexual provider since he would be the perfect sex partner..fit, inshape, bigger hung cock....and she only wanted and desired his cock and cum inside her at that moment not mine or anyone elses..sex with me would get in the way of her focus that should be on him..which my ex-did admit was correct and should be my focus..hers was his sexual pleasure, his should be her pleasure and mine should be hers first and then them as a couple second....encouraging, facilitating their frequent mating, copulation or whatever you want to call it...She liked to call it mating...because it was such a primal desire she got from a boyfriend but not just limited to sex ..she was with him for many other reasons besides sex. and where being exclusive could lead for us both as a couple and where it could take the bull as well..For her and us being exclusive meant she was in love with a choice male and whereever that lead them I was expected to follow...whether it be moving in, staying, children, whatever
Peccato..io avrei accettatoA bbc bull asked us for the same. But hubbie wasnt agree. Im BBC only except hubbie.
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We would like to cage him only during the dates, in order he can remain longer aroused. Later me and my boyfriend have had our sexual intercourse, I can take off it and jerk him.
wowYears ago my wife and I went to a marriage counselor and he said those exact words
well said............Happy New Year
My thoughts that i will give ,are strictly my opinions,and what works,within the dynamics of our cuckold marriage.As i have stated before,Carl is not very good in sexualy satisfrying my needs.And in our case,it was the driver of cuckolding.
From hearing from others into cuckolding,i have concluded,Before anything you must have a very secure marriage,and stability.Communication and honesty,must be there for success of the cuckolding .
We went through many men before settling on Paul as my exclusive sexual partner.Carl and Paul get along well and and on occasion have attended sports events together as friends. Having a single partner,is beneficial,for the most part for health reasons,but also as i have stated,we have developed a very good sex life together,which i find very rewarding.I have discovered for the most part Black Cock is very enjoyable.and now much prefered by me.
I feel cuckolding works ,when all achieve pleasure.carl is free to self pleasure himself by hand without restriction,He is no longer allowed to watch except for the few times a year it is allowed.Having sex with Paul without carl watching,allows me to just enjoy the act and have better orgasms,without worrying about carl's feelings.and also is my form of denial.
I am not saying our way is the best ,each couple must seek there own level of comfort.I personally do not use a cage,nor abuse.carl finds pleasure in humiliation,and i find pleasure in his humiliation.That said i think no less of the man I married.If anything it proves his security,and trust in our marriage.
Lastly i would say Paul fits within our dynamics of marriage,we are all friends,Paul is respected as my sex partner,and carl as my husband,Paul is the alpha,and carl is the cuckold,and both understand and are comfortable in there place.
I do not go for Black Superiority,nonsense,or the slave crap either.carl tends to be submissive,around Paul when he is here.That is his form of the humiliation cuckolds enjoy.I enjoy seeing it,and Paul does as well.The three of us have a dynamic,that works for us.
Kristin
Hi Kristin,Happy New Year
My thoughts that i will give ,are strictly my opinions,and what works,within the dynamics of our cuckold marriage.As i have stated before,Carl is not very good in sexualy satisfrying my needs.And in our case,it was the driver of cuckolding.
From hearing from others into cuckolding,i have concluded,Before anything you must have a very secure marriage,and stability.Communication and honesty,must be there for success of the cuckolding .
We went through many men before settling on Paul as my exclusive sexual partner.Carl and Paul get along well and and on occasion have attended sports events together as friends. Having a single partner,is beneficial,for the most part for health reasons,but also as i have stated,we have developed a very good sex life together,which i find very rewarding.I have discovered for the most part Black Cock is very enjoyable.and now much prefered by me.
I feel cuckolding works ,when all achieve pleasure.carl is free to self pleasure himself by hand without restriction,He is no longer allowed to watch except for the few times a year it is allowed.Having sex with Paul without carl watching,allows me to just enjoy the act and have better orgasms,without worrying about carl's feelings.and also is my form of denial.
I am not saying our way is the best ,each couple must seek there own level of comfort.I personally do not use a cage,nor abuse.carl finds pleasure in humiliation,and i find pleasure in his humiliation.That said i think no less of the man I married.If anything it proves his security,and trust in our marriage.
Lastly i would say Paul fits within our dynamics of marriage,we are all friends,Paul is respected as my sex partner,and carl as my husband,Paul is the alpha,and carl is the cuckold,and both understand and are comfortable in there place.
I do not go for Black Superiority,nonsense,or the slave crap either.carl tends to be submissive,around Paul when he is here.That is his form of the humiliation cuckolds enjoy.I enjoy seeing it,and Paul does as well.The three of us have a dynamic,that works for us.
Kristin