What do women think of white submissive men?

I am curious only about women answering as I'm curious, more like fascinated, about female opinions, of particularly white male submissives. As a 30 year old white male submissive, and hopeful to be in a Female Led Relationship where cuckolding might happen (i.e. if She so happens to want to) What I mean is, do women have a curiosity about submissive males if they may or may not be Dominant themselves?

I do wonder if I'm just a joke or seen as 'not a real man' in the eyes of women. I think about it a lot. I wonder if a woman would more or less see me as unworthy of long-term relationship, or if she would see me indifferently. My guess is the latter, but everyone is different. I am fully-aware that just because I want to be a woman's beta aka 'her bitch' doesn't mean that I'm just pointless. I know, but I want to know what the woman thinks. Always.
 
Sounds ignorant tbh. A sub male means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. Hot take acknowledged, hot take disregarded.
No, it sounds like you can’t handle an opinion you don’t agree with. You asked, i answered. I love dominate men. Cuckolding isn’t dominant. It’s that simple. IDGAF what it means to you, you asked for other’s opinions.
 
No, it sounds like you can’t handle an opinion you don’t agree with. You asked, i answered. I love dominate men. Cuckolding isn’t dominant. It’s that simple. IDGAF what it means to you, you asked for other’s opinions.
You are categorically wrong though? I didn't ask you to be weirdly anti-sub. I don't care if you have a low opinion of subs, it's the obvious relish with which you go on about this as if it's something we need to know. I asked for opinions. I gave my opinion on your opinion back. You gave me your opinion on my opinion back to me in the form of another opinion.

And I'm giving you another opinion back. That I don't think you understand the lifestyle. Femdom isn't constrained to one or two ways of being. Femdom means a lot of things to millions of people. There is no way all will be the exact same thing. Some people take it very seriously, others don't. Others just like to dabble with it for mutual fun. It isn't the porno cliché of black leather, whips and chains every single time.

"Cuckolding isn't dominant" - for you. Clearly that is how you see it. But do not try and state that as if it's not just your opinion and preference, and somehow, a fact. It's just your opinion. You feign making an opinion, neutrally, when you're also making declarative statements. "Cuckolding isn't dominant" is a statement. It can also be your opinion, but it is absolutely not a fact. To some people, there is a specific femdom aspect or edge to how they see and react to cuckolding. You're just wrong if you actually think there is a consensus opinion on it being 'not dominant' as it were.
It depends on the people doing it. I know full-well there are some women who just love interracial and loathe cuckolding stuff and don't even see it as necessary. Other women proactively seek out cuckolding lifestyles because they enjoy it for any number of reasons.

It's fairly obvious what I'm saying here. That is why I disregard your toxic opinion stating itself as a fact when it's not. Speak for yourself? You think it's 'not dominant'. Congratulations, that is your opinion, and you're more than welcome to it. Nobody is saying that it can't just be how you specifically prefer to see it. But many other people will go out of their way to express near infinitely variable levels dominance from it. There often is a femdom aspect.

I first became aware of what cuckolding even was, because on a social media platform, there was a blog called, 'Femdom Hotwife Cuckold Interracial'. Note: the femdom, being first in line in that blog name. She used to really go to town on posting interracial stuff on tumblr in it's heyday before it banned pornography after it got sold to new owners or something. It nearly destroyed it. She was one of the many blogs that just ended after that/was removed. I'd followed her blog with a vaguely morbid curiosity for years, back to when I think I first found it in about early 2014. She'd take her cuckolding to intense and sometimes off-putting levels, and she openly spoke about how much she enjoyed emasculating her husband and especially how much she liked pegging him.

She was a wealthy American woman who cuckolded her husband with a range of Black men, and she pegged him regularly and openly discussed it. I remember being into femdom since I was 18 but being wary and turned off by the idea of chastity, but then I happened on her blog and many others like it as a result of it, and I was made aware of the vast scale of the growing lifestyle. It didn't mean that say, back in the 2010's, I immediately accepted I was turned on by it. I was in denial about it for several years and it was an emotional tug of war in my thoughts and in my spirit. I felt as though I was less of a man if I even contemplated looking at it. But here I am, on B2W.

I love femdom so much, and it has been part of my experience and my growth as a human being for years now. But to me, for a good portion of that time, I never really thought cuckolding had to be part of it. In fact, I still honestly don't. It's just nice to look at I guess but I am not unrealistic about how challenging that would be for me emotionally as well as practically speaking. Realistically, even if I had a Domme partner, she might not even be into it and that's just fine. I think you're wildly misunderstanding me here.

I am open minded to a lot of femdom but never without remembering to stay realistic and 'keep it real', about what is likely to be possible to explore in my own life. The main realisation for me, was that, I wasn't afraid of it anymore as I used to be when I was in my early 20's. Go back to that time, and I'd have been mildly annoyed with the *entire thing* and genuinely considered it vaguely racist and unpleasant. But looking back, I know now I was wrong to think that and I was just being defensive over what should be straightforwardly, the pleasure of the woman. What I realised was, like with chastity (something I also used to really fear), I didn't need to be so upset about it and just chill and understand it's perfectly reasonable within the context of consenting adults engaging in such activities as long as there genuinely is love and mutual care and respect.

What worried me about chastity was an ingrained disdain for the optics of it, and the damage I thought it must be doing to the sub. Looking back, there was a time when I was quite convinced it was doing some kind of tissue damage to the penis of the sub locked away for who knows how long. Maybe that is actually still partly reasonable to think, I don't know. But I do know that my aversion to it was a bit much in the old days, and that I didn't give it a chance enough. Years later (around 2020) I bought my first chastity device after having been 'cool with the imagery' so to speak for a few years already. I got over the whole optics fear over it years ago. But it still took me until 2020 just stop worrying and try it.

In general, I find them a bit uncomfortable and maybe I haven't found my perfect, snug chastity cage. And me even talking about this so casually, would never have even crossed my mind as a 22 year old or something like that. Now, in my 30's, I understand. I understood in my mid-late 20's technically as well. It's just, I don't have a Domme so the real significance of me putting myself in chastity is relatively much lesser than if a woman told me to do it and moreover, actively took an interest in doing so.

You can't sit there and try to tell me that millions of women don't enjoy male chastity. They do. Like most things kinky it is a growing lifestyle and industry both. Many guys have chastity cages now. Even if they don't admit it. Probably still a relatively low percentage of men, but still quite a lot really if we're being real about this. They are widespread things now.

What often made the difference for me, in accepting/tolerating trying new things like chastity and embracing cuckolding concepts, was the fact that it always, for me (literally 100% of the time) came down to wanting the woman to be happy, even theoretically. I couldn't justify getting in the way of female pleasure. It made me more submissive than ever to come to that realisation, years ago, and I was better for it.
Of course the evocative and emotional activities and imagery of cuckolding can be used in a domineering way. Of course it can.
 
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He's referring to himself, he's a white submissive man, and is asking for a womens perspective on who he is. He's just being clear on his question. It seems as if you may struggle with who you are, to not allow him to say his peace. This is a site for IR which is based on color, ethnicity etc. However don't get that twisted between the differences of racism that's also on this site.
Thanks for your kindness, some of us are intimidated by stong women such as yourself
 
Pathetic how?
because if they are submissive they can't be a good husband, *******, provider, protector or keep someone satisfied. One of the main reasons why there is some many problems going on in the world right now because there is to many beta males and not enough alphas

By the way Alpha is not having sex with many women or how tough you act. True Alpha's are men that are committed to their *******, wife, family, go to work every day and provide for them, Stand up and defend those that can't ( not won't ) defend themselves. Helps those that need help when he can, willing to lay down his life for and to protect his family. Shows his sons by his actions how to be a gentleman shows his daughters what kind of man to look for.
 
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because if they are submissive they can't be a good husband, *******, provider, protector or keep someone satisfied. One of the main reasons why there is some many problems going on in the world right now because there is to many beta males and not enough alphas

By the way Alpha is not having sex with many women or how tough you act. True Alpha's are men that are committed to their *******, wife, family, go to work every day and provide for them, Stand up and defend those that can't ( not won't ) defend themselves. Helps those that need help when he can, willing to lay down his life for and to protect his family. Shows his sons by his actions how to be a gentleman shows his daughters what kind of man to look for.
I can see those arguments. However, gentlemen are not limited to 'alphas'. I think that the whole Alpha-beta-omega etc terms can be misleading. It's a generally understandable way of looking at things, but it's wrong to think a beta can't be a provider or protective. These can only ever be generalisations. After all, betas are *technically* not as lowly as others whom consider themselves omegas for instance. By that logic (and no true alpha calls themselves one as anyone with a brain knows) All the same, it's still just a generalisation.
 
The concept of the alpha wolf is well ingrained in the popular wolf literature, at least partly because of my book “The Wolf: Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species,” written in 1968, published in 1970, republished in paperback in 1981, and currently still in print, despite my numerous pleas to the publisher to stop publishing it. Although most of the book’s info is still accurate, much is outdated. We have learned more about wolves in the last 40 years than in all of previous history.

- L. David Mech
 
The concept of the alpha wolf is well ingrained in the popular wolf literature, at least partly because of my book “The Wolf: Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species,” written in 1968, published in 1970, republished in paperback in 1981, and currently still in print, despite my numerous pleas to the publisher to stop publishing it. Although most of the book’s info is still accurate, much is outdated. We have learned more about wolves in the last 40 years than in all of previous history.

- L. David Mech
Exactly this. Thank you (genuinely) so much for that reply. I had heard of this, long ago (that the wolf pack terminology is dubious) It's what I was alluding to but didn't know the exact source. It's basically this wolf pack terminology that has been erroneously grafted onto the human species. Yes, there will be more dominant men, but there will be more dominant women as well and it's way more complicated. Just so it's clear, my name 'inferior beta' is just how I see myself specifically in context of a female dominant dynamic.

It's not me saying I have no spine just for being generally submissive when it comes to love and romance. I never believed I was weaker for it as a man in all contexts just because. In fact for years I was of the mindset, as encouraged by the lifestyle practitioners of femdom in general, whom I was learning about for a long time, that it's not the done thing to see submission as weakness. It is too ignorant in my opinion. There are people here assuming that the prerequisite for being a real man is to be a provider and that subs by definition can't be. I disagree vehemently. I think most people capable of love are capable of stepping up. Machismo is useless.
 
The concept of the alpha wolf is well ingrained in the popular wolf literature, at least partly because of my book “The Wolf: Ecology and Behavior of an Endangered Species,” written in 1968, published in 1970, republished in paperback in 1981, and currently still in print, despite my numerous pleas to the publisher to stop publishing it. Although most of the book’s info is still accurate, much is outdated. We have learned more about wolves in the last 40 years than in all of previous history.

- L. David Mech
P. S. - I'd love to chat but I can't see Your profile x I'm not able to see it (guess it's Your settings)
 
First of all, thank you for replying. I don't have a mentality of being negative myself. I neither particularly like 'ball busters'. I'm a human being first and foremost. My submissiveness and genuine desire to be in a loving (mutually loving) Female Led Relationship, doesn't define every single thing there is about my life. It's a big part of it but again, I'm just another human being on this pale blue dot in space. I'm not trying to say I am only attracted to the more intense dominant women. I like many women.

However, the confidence to talk with women can be quite tough sometimes because I am very introvert. I don't want to get seen the wrong way so I guess I talk myself out of just trying to go on dates and stuff. I mean I've tried. But sadly I've never had a proper relationship and it's really grim for me personally because I do want one. I know not every man even wants that. If they want to be single and mingling all the time that is up to them I'm not condoning or criticising that way of being. No judgement. I'm just, not into that. Nor am I cut out for that. I'm just me.

I want commitment (to give commitment and to have long-term romance) I guess I put a lot of pressure on myself to find a Lady whom wants similar things. I am not sure what you mean by 'guys like you' (do you just mean, in general, sub males, or are you implying a more specific thing there?) I want to be happy and contribute to the happiness of a woman. That includes being submissive yes but I'm not a wet lettuce. It can be hard to explain without being misunderstood on very specific contexts.
I think it will be difficult for you to find a girl if you tell her that you are so submissive and want to be a cuck old.
Perhaps act a bit straighter at first and if that works somewhere down the road tell her a bit more about yourself
 
I think it will be difficult for you to find a girl if you tell her that you are so submissive and want to be a cuck old.
Perhaps act a bit straighter at first and if that works somewhere down the road tell her a bit more about yourself
Oh, make no mistake, I know what you mean and I wouldn't just be like hey I'm a sub unless it was via a forum/medium like this where it's more evidently lifestyle-based. The point being, this sort of place is the exception not the rule. Of course I wouldn't walk around in public with a t-shirt reading, 'cuck sub for Domme' lol or walk around with a neon sign in my hands saying the same thing. That's not what I'm saying.
 
Oh, make no mistake, I know what you mean and I wouldn't just be like hey I'm a sub unless it was via a forum/medium like this where it's more evidently lifestyle-based. The point being, this sort of place is the exception not the rule. Of course I wouldn't walk around in public with a t-shirt reading, 'cuck sub for Domme' lol or walk around with a neon sign in my hands saying the same thing. That's not what I'm saying.
Well I wish you luck it's our dream to find a woman who we can share our cuckold desires with.
 
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