Thoughts about white female racism

[Kuno]

https://www.blacktowhite.net/search/2571133/?q=Retard&c[users]=MonicaV&o=relevance

It's consistent with the posting history.

 

[MonicaV]

Pretending that you are smart because you learned some big words in college and parrot others thoughts from the books you read.
Nothing original.

Wow
You are not impressive, at all.

Yes, there are a lot of academic books about interracial cuckoldry and I just copy some paragraphs. Maybe the question is why so many people find offensive or threatening these big words and if these texts are so silly why they don't just ignore them.

 

[MonicaV]

https://www.blacktowhite.net/search/2571133/?q=Retard&c[users]=MonicaV&o=relevance

It's consistent with the posting history.

All my personal identity, my sex life, my political thought, and my views about this lifestyle are defined by the use of the word 'retard'.

 

[KsChocolate]

the True Actual Queens (of Black men)

I would not say "Of Black Men", But rather "To Black Men".

Next. This thread started with a valid point (my belief) being made. I have read most of it and it it to be stimulating, albeit lengthy and wordy. Goddam was it wordy. I had to take breaks reading it. It seems to have digressed as it progressed. Manly due to people overly investing their feeling in the topic. Which is why these sort of talks always turn out this way. We are all intitled to your own opinions, So lets remember that.

 

[Blacksnake4u10]

I'm as into watching my wife with a black guy as anyone, but I think many people take the racial part of it way too far. I view all people as people plain and simple. I do think that there are certain aspects that make the racial differences sexy, such as the contrast in skin color, but ultimately people are people. I get sick of everyone trying to demeane each other over it.

My wife definitely has a thing for sexy black guys with big dicks, but for every one she may find that she would consider sleeping with, there are 10 more ugly black guys with average or small dicks that she wouldn't even consider touching just like she finds some white men very attractive, and many others repulsive. Unfortunately, I'm bigger than many black guys which takes away from that part of the fantasy for us, but she can still have a good time with a fun, attractive black man, just for who he is, and not all of the stereotypes attached. For me, I just enjoy having fun with my wife and love watching her have a good time. I also like meeting good people of any and all races. It seems like everyone continues to look for ways to divide the races instead of uniting. There's good and bad in all races, and we should all just see it for what it is.

Well said my friend. I would like to meet you and the wife. You guys ever travel to Denver?

 

[MagicMikeATX]

I would not say "Of Black Men", But rather "To Black Men".

Next. This thread started with a valid point (my belief) being made. I have read most of it and it it to be stimulating, albeit lengthy and wordy. Goddam was it wordy. I had to take breaks reading it. It seems to have digressed as it progressed. Manly due to people overly investing their feeling in the topic. Which is why these sort of talks always turn out this way. We are all intitled to your own opinions, So lets remember that.

i hear you Bruh. MOST threads diverge off the path and digress. It's been that way since Yahoo chat rooms waaay back in the late 1990s lol lol
but I directed all of MY comments to the OP- Ms/Mr Monica V (or whoever the profile belongs to).If you think 'she' makes valid points I would urge you to read their history of posts. It is mostly academic ******* that no realistic woman would spew. at least - none of the women I EVER met - and I've met hundreds.
also, You missed the play on words - 'Queen of Spades' is considered derogatory to some folks so I FLIPPED IT and said Queen of Black Men.
Because no woman who truly has relations with a Black Man would refer to Him as a spade.
<EOM>

 

[MagicMikeATX]

We are all intitled to your own opinions, So lets remember that.

Also, you nailed it right there. Monica doesn't share opinions. Monica attempts to use her 'facts' (articles, studies, research etc) to 'educate' members on here about interracial relations, when - that person has never actually BEEN in one. She claims to have had some younger Black guy as a Dom this past year but even that is questionable. It's one thing to share experiences. Its another thing to throw skewed 'facts' out there and have a throng of followers like its gospel truth. Fake news up in this bich!

 

[MonicaV]

i hear you Bruh. MOST threads diverge off the path and digress. It's been that way since Yahoo chat rooms waaay back in the late 1990s lol lol
but I directed all of MY comments to the OP- Ms/Mr Monica V (or whoever the profile belongs to).If you think 'she' makes valid points I would urge you to read their history of posts. It is mostly academic ******* that no realistic woman would spew. at least - none of the women I EVER met - and I've met hundreds.
also, You missed the play on words - 'Queen of Spades' is considered derogatory to some folks so I FLIPPED IT and said Queen of Black Men.
Because no woman who truly has relations with a Black Man would refer to Him as a spade.
<EOM>

Honestly, I think it's you who shows a sudden change of attitude and your appreciations have gone too far just because I have insulted someone who called me a ‘pseudo-intellectual holding a useless humanities degree’. Nothing have changed in my way of writing with the exception of some rough words. The idea that someone has hacked this account is ridiculous. I guess the webmaster can verify that this is the same IP and I can certainly prove that I'm the same person who registered here 4 years ago. I have talked by Skype with two users and taken a number of requested photos with a piece of paper in hand, and even wrote over my body. As I told you months ago in private, for me these pseudo-articles are just a pastime. What is unusual is that a handful of words produce such strong reactions. All this begins to be exasperating and as I said previously I have personal problems that made me disappear from this site for a while.

 

[MonicaV]

What is your point? There are lots people here on this website who want to get into a relationship with a female that is engaged into sex with black men. This obvious demand does not suggest that women who had sex with black men in the past are considered “damaged”. It’s rather quite the opposite.

About which facts are you talking? Your facts or facts based on provable empirical data? What you are misrepresenting as “aggressive/hysterical” reaction sadly seems to be rather an expression of your unwillingness to debate with people who disagree on certain aspects of your personal conclusions you are presenting here as facts.

My point has been previously exposed and you have not tried at any time to refute it. I said that people tend to consider disturbingly exciting to transgress 'sexual norms', and for this reason there are white men who find very exciting the women who had sex with black men, because they perceived them as 'defiled'. I don't know what contradictions you find in my words.

I haven't said at any moment that all people have racial fetishes because they see interracial sex as wrong. I said that if many people has racial fetishes is because they perceive interracial sex as wrong. So your porn hub data is irrelevant. If you don't understand the difference, go to school to learn rational thinking.

The facts are obvious to anyone who wants to see them, or any woman who has experienced these situations, but obviously there is not and can not be 'empirical data' about them. It is actually ridiculous to ask 'scientific evidence' for an observation of this nature.

An aggressive reaction is talking about "people anonymously pushing for identity politics" and "pseudo-intellectuals holding a useless humanities degree" or "from the alt-right trying to stir up mutual hatred between individuals of different ethnic backgrounds and sexes"... just because someone wrote a text about white women with racist views having sex with black men. Curiously, several black men have confirmed in this thread that this reality exists. Are you going to deny it? What's your point, if you have one?

 

[MonicaV]

Also, you nailed it right there. Monica doesn't share opinions. Monica attempts to use her 'facts' (articles, studies, research etc) to 'educate' members on here about interracial relations, when - that person has never actually BEEN in one. She claims to have had some younger Black guy as a Dom this past year but even that is questionable. It's one thing to share experiences. Its another thing to throw skewed 'facts' out there and have a throng of followers like its gospel truth. Fake news up in this bich!

I think you are falling into a vicious circle. I have exposed some perceptions about this lifestyle and when there are people who consider that they are correct (according to their own experience) you say they aren't, because they are not based on experience. As the matter of fact, at the beginning of this thread you also agreed with some of my points. On the other hand, you forget that English is not the mom tongue of many people who visit this forum, and we don't live in the USA, so certain appreciations about the language we use or about what it's socially common does not prove what you claim.

 

[GmanAllDay]

One of the seemingly inexplicable paradoxes of the IR lifestyle is the existence of many white, underlyingly racist women having sex with black men. Progressive media has always encouraged this kind of sex, considered as the way to achieve racial armony. If racism is based on prejudice and derogatory stereotypes that keep individuals segregated, and sex is the most intimate act between individuals, hence interracial sex will destroy racism. However, factual evidence shows that not only in the increasingly multicultural societies racial indetities are not diluting, but also many white women are becoming more conservative, even if they are into an interracial marriage and have mixed children.

“What is wrong with white women?” Moira Donegan asked at the Guardian after November’s midterm elections. “Why do half of them so consistently vote for Republicans, even as the Republican party morphs into a monstrously ugly organization that is increasingly indistinguishable from a hate group?”

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Identity politics are based on the idea that some social groups (women, racial minorities) are more vulnerable to forms of oppression by virtue of their identity, and they should struggle all together to gain empowerment and achieve a more equal society. "Progressives sometimes expect white women, as a group, to support the interests of people of color of all genders — after all, women know what discrimination feels like." The identity politics have replaced the Marxist concept of class struggle, but they haven’t worked at it was expected. From the perspective of gender policies and intersectionality, this fact may be hard to understand, since leftist only consider the relations between identities from the dialectics of the oppressor and the oppressed. However, human relationships are far more complex than this simple dichotomy.

"How often do we see white women showing support for black penis but not black lives?" Kyla Jenee Lacey wonders. "When people say they can’t be racist because they have a black baby, I laugh, as if the insertion of black penis into white vagina or white penis into black vagina is some magical act that wipes you clean of all your racism."

When I have self-evaluated about this issue after two years of almost exclusive sex with black men, I have come to the conclusion that my racial consciousness as a white woman had actually increased.

I grew up in a rural region of an almost white country and maybe I met my first black person when I was around 10 years old. Identity is based on the existence of a 'us' and a 'them'. Hence, it is built on antagonism and, therefore, in those circumstances being white was not an identity. It was something neutral. It was ‘normal’.

But I was attracted to the otherness. Blacks have always been some kind of enigma and my first IR experience blew my mind. My black Dom always remarked the racial difference with his comments: 'come here, white slut' or 'suck my black dick'. The adjetives 'white' and 'black' were enough to change the entire formulation of the sexual intercourse: we were not a man and women having sex, I was a white woman on her knees sucking a black man's cock. I was submitting on behalf of my race.

I was hooked to this new form of sex. Masculinity and femininity, blackness and whiteness, dominance and submission; identities confronting, creating a scenario based on inequality and hierarchies. With the time, I talked with my Dom, I began to understand what means being a black person in a white society. These conversations made me more racially sensitive. However, this kind of sex reinforced my racial consciousness.

In sexual terms, I'm a bratty submissive. I behave in the limit of disobedience without actually crossing the line for a spanking. Being always in the edge increased sexual tension and provided my former Dom excuses for his 'punishments'. He had strong political views about race, we often disagreed. Many times he spanked me 'to teach me black respect' and I had to apology through oral sex. I have never felt more white than worshiping a black phallus, and with the time I projected this racial consciousness on my political ideas. Whenever a conflict arises between two racial identities, I defend the views and interests of 'my' group if it does not imply a moral transgression.

But nobody has just one identity. Intersectionality is an analytic framework created by the African American feminist Kimberlé Crenshaw, who stated that group identitties do not exist separately from each other but are interwoven together. The experience of being a black woman cannot be understood in terms of being black and of being a woman considered independently. Crenshaw's thesis are consistent when the oppressor / oppressed dichotomy always presents the same sense, in other words, when you are always the opressor or the oppressed.

The cuckold-hotwife-bull triangle implies the existence of an underlying hierarchy related to sexual and racial identities, and patriarchal values about wife's modesty and fidelity. The Bull is clearly at the top playing a dominant role, the cuckold husband is at the bottom, and the hotwife may play as a switch, being dominant with the hubby and submissive with her Bull. This is the reason why for the Bull this situation can be empowering since it subverts the structural domination of the white patriarchy, and destroys one of the barriers erected to keep compartmentalized the two racial groups: the sexual access of the black man to the white womb.

Racism has much to do in these synergies. Stereotypes created to subdue can be a double-edged sword. Black men are stereotypically perceived as sexually agressive and hypermasculine, which may be a disadvantage in social interactions, but also may be advantageous in the sexual sphere. They make a white man acknowledge black males as Alphas and see the cuckold role as his natural place, something that frees his wife from the subordinate position that is traditionally attributed to her.

During the brief period I was a ‘hotwife’ before my divorce, I developed an unusual sadistic behavior with my husband. In my sex with my black lover, I expressed my white identity, in my sex with my white husband, my feminine identity prevailed. In some way, I never felt more feminist and liberated as a woman that when I talked to him about my sex with my black Dom. The paradox was that this ‘liberation’ came from my submission to a black man.

When I analyzed the relationship with my black Dom through the prisms of intersectionality, I discovered I was also playing a switch role with him. All groups possess varying amounts of penalty and privilege in one historically created system. White women are penalized by their gender but privileged by their race. Depending on the context, an individual may be an oppressor, a member of an oppressed group, or simultaneously oppressor and oppressed.

With my black lovers I was developing a behavior traditionally associated with the male gender: I used my white privilege to objectify them, I fetishized their penises, and my interest in them were only sexual. They did the same with me using their male privilege. I also discovered that the attraction that I awakened in some of my young, black lovers wasn't based only on my individual self, but in my group identity (race, age, social class). Something verbalized when they called me ‘milf’, ‘white slut’, 'cheating wife', or even ‘Christian whore’ in case of Muslims.

This mutual fetishization based on identities and privileges is full of paradoxes. Identity is ambiguous because it is in a constant state of negotiation and interpretation: ever changing, always contested, sometimes contradictory, and continuously repositioned by the specificities of place, time, and the identities of “the other”. As any person has different identities based on sex, race, ethnicity, age or social class, depending on which one stands out and how the conflict is formulated, it may acquire one meaning or another. By claiming a particular identity, other self-identifications are overshadowed or suppressed.

Identity is not an essence, but a positioning. Most of Queen of Spades remain loyal to their race, because their white identity is stronger than their female identity and don't see white men as their enemies. Maybe the key question is if 'racial consciousness' and ‘racially unempathetic’ are synonymous with racist. But there is something out of question. If attraction is based on feelings, sex may be the most intimate act between individuals; but if attraction is based on physical and personality attributes linked to identities, “just because you fuck black people doesn’t mean you fuck with black people”.

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The Republican Party is not a hate group infact if you look at history look at what side the so called “haters” are involved in. I’m a Hispanic republican and for that reason I choose logic over hurt feelings. The problem with democrats is that there exactly what they sound like. Cucks. Pushovers and that’s the truth. Republicans will always be the leaders of great nations even great leaders in there household. Never get it twisted times are changing people are starting to wake up from their trance like states and are starting to think before they act which is the way it should have been. Democrats voted for slavery read a book for once, republicans abolished it. Happy New Years everybody!

 

[MonicaV]

The Republican Party is not a hate group ******* if you look at history look at what side the so called “haters” are involved in. I’m a Hispanic republican and for that reason I choose logic for hurt feelings. The problem with democrats is that there exactly what they sound like. Cucks. Pushovers and that’s the truth. Republicans will always be the leaders of great nations even great leaders in there household. Never get it twisted times are changing people are starting to wake up from their trance like states and are starting to think before they act which is the way it should have been. Democrats voted for slavery read a book for once, republicans abolished it. Happy New Years everybody!

I only quoted an article that it's also linked. I think the Trump phenomenom is a reaction against economic globalism, identity politics, mass immigration and political correctness. I don't consider the rise of this 'new Right' a simple racial issue, but that article make some points I wanted to use as a political background.

 

[Deleted125623]

https://www.blacktowhite.net/search/2571133/?q=Retard&c[users]=MonicaV&o=relevance

It's consistent with the posting history.

Go here for her triggered response to being told she is talking utter nonsense,

https://www.blacktowhite.net/thread...-white-mens-decline.94838/page-2#post-1374714

 

[LVBull]

The Republican Party is not a hate group infact if you look at history look at what side the so called “haters” are involved in. I’m a Hispanic republican and for that reason I choose logic over hurt feelings. The problem with democrats is that there exactly what they sound like. Cucks. Pushovers and that’s the truth. Republicans will always be the leaders of great nations even great leaders in there household. Never get it twisted times are changing people are starting to wake up from their trance like states and are starting to think before they act which is the way it should have been. Democrats voted for slavery read a book for once, republicans abolished it. Happy New Years everybody!

Lol @ “ read a book” when you’re leaving out facts like “Dixiecrats” and the switching of parties . Take a seat please .

 

[MonicaV]

Go here for her triggered response to being told she is talking utter nonsense,

https://www.blacktowhite.net/thread...-white-mens-decline.94838/page-2#post-1374714

In that thread you define my writing as a "a racist pile of bullshit". And you also merged several of my threads into one, removing many messages in the process and converting all the arguings into a mess, using the silly excuse that I linked my blog entry, when that link had been there for months. If these are not agressive/hysterical reactions I wonder how do you define them.

 

[Kuno]

Go here for her triggered response to being told she is talking utter nonsense,

https://www.blacktowhite.net/thread...-white-mens-decline.94838/page-2#post-1374714

Made my eyes glaze over.

 

[the6ualxtc4us]

Monica V, do you know Claas Relotius? The journalist of the German news magazine “Der Spiegel” who wrote a series of articles that were debunked as pure fake just recently?

In a long reportage he wrote in very detail about his trip to the small town Fergus Falls in Minnesota, describing its residents as retarded traditionalists with racist and xenophobe attitudes. Two residents of Fergus Falls – ironically democrats – have investigated for one and half year to finally reveal that the whole article was fake and characters and personal experiences were made up. This has initiated a chain reaction as more and more fake articles of this journalist were discovered. It is currently a big scandal that gives the public a very deep and disturbing insight about the level of “integrity” some journalists are applying.

The aim of this journalist was to prove that “traditionalists” in the US are in general either evil racists not openly admitting it or at least retarded. Everything else – especially characters and events – was either made-up or grossly misrepresented in order to fit the narrative and his political agenda.

He was not discovered for a very long time and he was even honoured with several prizes for his stories that some have described as journalism close to poetry (nowadays: too good to be true).

Clearly this guy must have shown some kind of accreditation when he started at “Der Spiegel”, but as shown this does not provide a guarantee that he will stick to this standards in the course of time.

There is something that currently reminds me of these incidents.

You can fool some people sometimes. But you can't fool all the people all the time.

 

[MonicaV]

Monica V, do you know Claas Relotius? The journalist of the German news magazine “Der Spiegel” who wrote a series of articles that were debunked as pure fake just recently?

In a long reportage he wrote in very detail about his trip to the small town Fergus Falls in Minnesota, describing its residents as retarded traditionalists with racist and xenophobe attitudes. Two residents of Fergus Falls – ironically democrats – have investigated for one and half year to finally reveal that the whole article was fake and characters and personal experiences were made up. This has initiated a chain reaction as more and more fake articles of this journalist were discovered. It is currently a big scandal that gives the public a very deep and disturbing insight about the level of “integrity” some journalists are applying.

The aim of this journalist was to prove that “traditionalists” in the US are in general either evil racists not openly admitting it or at least retarded. Everything else – especially characters and events – was either made-up or grossly misrepresented in order to fit the narrative and his political agenda.

He was not discovered for a very long time and he was even honoured with several prizes for his stories that some have described as journalism close to poetry (nowadays: too good to be true).

Clearly this guy must have shown some kind of accreditation when he started at “Der Spiegel”, but as shown this does not provide a guarantee that he will stick to this standards in the course of time.

There is something that currently reminds me of these incidents.

You can fool some people sometimes. But you can't fool all the people all the time.

It is really difficult to reason with someone who ignores even the most basic concepts of rational thinking. Now you try to establish this syllogism: "as Claas Relotius of Der Spiegel invented stories about racists, and you talked about racists, therefore you also invent stories". So I guess we can conclude that racism does not exist.

This is the 9 page of this thread and nobody has refuted so far a single point of my original text. You have only tried to put words in my mouth that I have not said. In this brief pseudo-essay, my points were:

*Leftists have encouraged interracial sex because they believe it will destroy racism.
*Racial conflicts are growing in an ideologically polarized, multicultural world.
*Identity policies do not make white women stand in favor of the rights of racial minorities.
*Actually, many white woman who have sex with black men hold racist views.
*Interracial sex can be based on stereotypes linked with group identities that in fact reinforce racial consciousness - something that is not necessary racism, but it can feed racism.

Now, if you disagree with any point, you can try to debunk it. But these are my opinions about this subject, don't invent others.

Finally, it seems surreal to me to write in this thread ignoring the fact that this is a website about 'interracial cuckoldry' and there are literally gigabytes of comments and memes who prove the 'facts' that I have previously mentioned. Trying to strip this form of sex of any ideological content is simply ridiculous.

 

[the6ualxtc4us]

So I guess we can conclude that racism does not exist.

This is a misrepresentation what others are saying and obviously a red herring in order to redirect the discussion in a direction far away from the "methodology" you are applying here.

I guess nobody here on this site has a problem if you label your writings as personal conculsions.

However, the problem is that you are generalizing your personal conclusions on the whole society in the US and even worldwide and demand that others suck this up as proven facts.

I have the impression that your main aim is not to speak against racism but to smear whole groups of people who you don't like.

 

[TexasPervySage]

The Republican Party is not a hate group infact if you look at history look at what side the so called “haters” are involved in. I’m a Hispanic republican and for that reason I choose logic over hurt feelings. The problem with democrats is that there exactly what they sound like. Cucks. Pushovers and that’s the truth. Republicans will always be the leaders of great nations even great leaders in there household. Never get it twisted times are changing people are starting to wake up from their trance like states and are starting to think before they act which is the way it should have been. Democrats voted for slavery read a book for once, republicans abolished it. Happy New Years everybody!

Abolitionists/Republicans still didnt see blacks or any other minorities as equals post slavery and racism was very much still prevalent outside the Jim Crow South. Dont pat Republicans on the back too hard...