I support our republic.
Socialism.
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I believe most rational people don’t trust governments in general. Our founding fathers knew the risks of big government and tried to build our republic appropriately.
Great! That means you should support the overwhelming percentage of Americans who want universal healthcare.
70% of Americans now support Medicare-for-all—here's how single-payer could affect you
"Medicare is a very popular program, so the idea of expanding it to everyone is popular as well," says Larry Levitt, senior vice president for health reform at the Kaiser Family Foundation
62 percent of U.S. want federal government to ensure health care for all, poll says
The survey findings from the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research indicate a change in public attitudes over the past few months, as concerns mounted about GOP legislation estimated to leave tens of millions without coverage.
www.pbs.org
Majority in U.S. Support Idea of Fed-Funded Healthcare System
Asked separately about three possible courses for the future of the Affordable Care Act, more Americans favor replacing it with federally funded health insurance for all Americans than favor either keeping it in place or repealing it.
news.gallup.com
The way I see it, the problem seems to be more with our capitalistic system ... we don't have true capitalism anymore. We have crony & vulture capitalists, and monopolies are coming back unless we stop it. If you recall, the last part of the 19th century & early 20th century, the country was pretty much OWNED by huge monopolies ... think it was Teddy Roosevelt that broke a bunch of 'em up.
That would be a pure democracy and I have no interest in that.Great! That means you should support the overwhelming percentage of Americans who want universal healthcare.
70% of Americans now support Medicare-for-all—here's how single-payer could affect you
"Medicare is a very popular program, so the idea of expanding it to everyone is popular as well," says Larry Levitt, senior vice president for health reform at the Kaiser Family Foundationwww.cnbc.com
62 percent of U.S. want federal government to ensure health care for all, poll says
The survey findings from the Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research indicate a change in public attitudes over the past few months, as concerns mounted about GOP legislation estimated to leave tens of millions without coverage.
Majority in U.S. Support Idea of Fed-Funded Healthcare System
Asked separately about three possible courses for the future of the Affordable Care Act, more Americans favor replacing it with federally funded health insurance for all Americans than favor either keeping it in place or repealing it.
Amy's Secret
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"never relied on the government for anything"
Has public water, power, roads, police, justice, fire, international security etc. Doesn't realize it because dumb American.
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying, Ak ... how would "providing health care for all" be considered pure democracy. Can you explain?
Maybe we should refer to it as health care for all rather than medicare for all, as many envision all healthcare, other than medicare, would go away??
I think EVERYONE should have health care access with a way to pay for them to pay for their health care services, but, I can't see everyone getting "free" healthcare ... I can't see that being affordable or an encouragement of an insured to obtain good health.
Even if the very poorest were only charged the taxation value of the premium, it would help alleviate some of the costs, and again help bring down costs associated with health care.
And, I might add, the health care for all would only apply to those not under another health care plan ... but ALL should address the " ten essential services" of health care ... ALL OF THEM.
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I think the biggest concern, that ALL conservatives have about government sponsored programs, is the poor & costly administration of the services they provide. Its pretty easy for service providers to milk billions of fraudulent dollars out of the government-run medicare, medicare & social security. If the federal government could cut the fraud in these programs just in half, for example, it would still SAVE billions upon billions of dollars, plus make costs regarding those services go down. Yet, they don't do that. The government could get a private practice organization to moderate those social programs, making a good portion of the private practice firm(s) contingent on the fraud dollars they remove, and the government would still save billions and billions of dollars. So, the REAL ISSUE isn't the providing of a health care program to ensure all citizens have health coverage, but the costs associated with fraud to these programs ... seems to me, if President Orange Man wanted to impress everyone, he could begin by attacking the fraud in social programs.
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Did you suggest a new government agency to watch other government agencies. Every time he goes near those programs the screaming starts from the left
You guys and this Russia nonsense lol...so dumb.
i Mean it in the sense that here in America the majority is not always the winner. Also, the sources he cited are very outdated and after people heard of the huge tax increases they were no longer interested.
You mind elaborating on what a “pure democracy” is and how you can support the republic but be adverse to democracy?
Do you know what A “pure democracy” is?
Yea, you want elected reps rather than people power. Understand that but the reps are elected by the people and a majority of Americans want healthcare. They’re not dated polls at all. I could show you some from 2020 if you like?
No, I want equal power for the states. You can’t have laws passed for everyone by three states who have the largest populations. You seem to think I’m some type of bozo on healthcare. I provide medical treatment everyday here in the states. I have worked in both private healthcare and socialized healthcare in my birth country and I would pick the American healthcare system every time.
Ok, you keep circling back to points previously discussed and you maybe right. Maybe the actual physical act of providing medical care is better in the US but that’s useless information for someone who can’t afford to access that care. Lose your job and insurance then get sick? You’re fucked.
Don’t just take my word for it.
Poll: 44% Of Americans Skip Doctor Visits Because Of Cost
Two in five Americans didn’t go see a physician last year when they were sick or injured, according to a new poll from the West Health Institute and NORC at the University of Chicago.
www.forbes.com
Ak ... I don't know the intentions of DCT1's, but I was sincere ... what do you preceive a pure democracy to be ... what its functions would be ... etc.
As I said, I don't think the conservatives hate the ideal of providing health care for everyone, its the "costs" associated with doing that. And as I said, if the fraud to social programs was half of what it IS, we would be much closer to hammering out a way to provide health care for everyone.
My wife works in Reconciliations Accounting of one of the top two health care systems in NC. The hospital where she works "write off" approximately $200 thousand in noncollectable bills each week due to people without insurance coming into the ER, getting treatment, then leaving. Those uncollected charges don't just dissipate, those with insurance absorb them in their own bills from the hospital.
Imagine if ALL hospitals across the US were incurring these losses, but these losses could be cut in half ... then when you toss in prescription ******* overcharges, with that of Medicare-Medicaid-SS ... imagine the impact on health care costs.
As I said, I don't think the conservatives hate the ideal of providing health care for everyone, its the "costs" associated with doing that. And as I said, if the fraud to social programs was half of what it IS, we would be much closer to hammering out a way to provide health care for everyone.
My wife works in Reconciliations Accounting of one of the top two health care systems in NC. The hospital where she works "write off" approximately $200 thousand in noncollectable bills each week due to people without insurance coming into the ER, getting treatment, then leaving. Those uncollected charges don't just dissipate, those with insurance absorb them in their own bills from the hospital.
Imagine if ALL hospitals across the US were incurring these losses, but these losses could be cut in half ... then when you toss in prescription ******* overcharges, with that of Medicare-Medicaid-SS ... imagine the impact on health care costs.
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