I think some guys here lose touch with reality sometimes. Maybe they talk too much to the fake guys pretending to be women. Or they talk with the women who are just into the fantasies hiding behind a computer. I understand this site is based on sex. Yes. That's a given. But approaching a women like a whore on the street never ends well. What makes you think a real women is going to act differently here?! Like I sad. A real women. (or a women who isn't just into cyber sex). Don't think with your dick like most men do. Think about how a women would like to be approached. Try it. Couldn't hurt! Good luck.