Black men has this happened to you or does this happen to you in the lifestyle?

This discussion is going in circles. You ask the question, "does this ever happen to you..." and if a Black man doesn't affirm your belief, he's wrong? Personally, I would prefer getting to know someone beforehand, but I'd prefer that it happen in a quiet, discreet manner. Society is rife with negative racial stereotypes and some women just don't know how to face these situations. That doesn't mean she's looking down upon me, it simply means (in most cases) that she doesn't want all the drama that can come from the simple act of being with me. No, being flirty in public is not the determinative factor in determining whether I'm equal to other men, or if I'm being looked down upon. In fact, I don't care for the public drama, either.
 
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"IR couples" covers all types of combinations and means nothing in this context, because I wasn't referring to interracial couples in general.
Cali, I'm curious what gives you so much angst concerning this topic. Easy answer via advice unasked: a woman/couple who does not respect YOUR boundaries concerning comfort in interactions with you say " Thank you, no thank you". Then no need to be perplexed about someone else's "Why". Don't let other people live rent free in your head. You are responsible for your actions and choices. No one else's. You'll find more contentment in whatever you do if you acknowledge that fact✌🏾✊🏾
 
I am a professional speaker so I am in front of an audience all the time. A majority of my adventures have started from the stage with an audience member and I connecting. The connection has started with something I said in my program, my energy in the presentation or my looks. My skin color has played a part in some instances and I am aware of the attraction based on my color. In those adventures, I was never treated as a second class citizen and more celebrity like. This ladies had no challenge doing the things you would do in a normal relationship. The ones with hubbies had me attending functions, events and social gatherings. In those settings they introduced me a friend, shared what I did, professionally and stated they liked my company. In my younger years I cared less about the my status and more about pleasuring the hell out of my partner. Only one instance where a hubby was treating me like a piece of meat. He was the 'director' type of hubby and only played with her once. It was early in this adventure and luckily a more experienced brother told me to only ' do what I want, with who I want' and that nipped me playing in that type of situation. I know my value and if others cannot act accordingly, no problem moving on, My two cents and not sure it added anything new, LOL
 
I've never seen this as an issue. Interesting perspective presented though. Then again, I'm in Europe so in some aspects it's seen as a status symbol to have an articulate well groomed athletic ******* on their arm.
On more than one occasion, I've had other women smile at my date when we check in to a hotel together 😊; a lot of beta-Euro men so my playmates usually ignore them as if they were thin air as the guy stares looking mad/jealous as f*ck. In my experience, in Europe men of color as usually presented as a trophy
Agree 1,000 % was in Germany in September on business
 
We can have different opinions and I'm not in angst : - ) or trying to make circular arguments. However, certain facts about this lifestyle are incontrovertible.
I asked earlier if anyone could show me examples of sites which facilitate well-endowed males of other races or nationalities copulatring with white women. The rresponse? Crickets. Silence because they simply don't exist. There is no interest in seeing men of other races or nationalities having sex with white women because, it is viewed simply as sex between equals; Move on. Nothing to see here.
I too. have been fortunate enough to live, work and visit a number of countries and America is unique in this regard: It treats its (black) citizens as is they are foreign-like and treats foreigners (especially ones who are doing well, professionals, skilled workers etc) as if they are American-like.
As stated earlier, iy is no big deal when men of other races, nationalities or backgrounds have sex with white women, but when it comes to the case of a black man doing so, it is taboo and that gets the "exceitent" levels to take off. Which explains the raison d'être for this lifestyle which is for couples to get off on "raw", "primitive" (their words, not mine) act of seeing their wives have sexual intercourse with and being plowed by well-endowed lesser beings.
 
We can have different opinions and I'm not in angst : - ) or trying to make circular arguments. However, certain facts about this lifestyle are incontrovertible.
I asked earlier if anyone could show me examples of sites which facilitate well-endowed males of other races or nationalities copulatring with white women. The rresponse? Crickets. Silence because they simply don't exist. There is no interest in seeing men of other races or nationalities having sex with white women because, it is viewed simply as sex between equals; Move on. Nothing to see here.
I too. have been fortunate enough to live, work and visit a number of countries and America is unique in this regard: It treats its (black) citizens as is they are foreign-like and treats foreigners (especially ones who are doing well, professionals, skilled workers etc) as if they are American-like.
As stated earlier, iy is no big deal when men of other races, nationalities or backgrounds have sex with white women, but when it comes to the case of a black man doing so, it is taboo and that gets the "exceitent" levels to take off. Which explains the raison d'être for this lifestyle which is for couples to get off on "raw", "primitive" (their words, not mine) act of seeing their wives have sexual intercourse with and being plowed by well-endowed
So be it, no matter what perspective one opts as reality. I'll just keep right on enjoying the lifestyle. No social construct is perfect. This is no exception.
 
We can have different opinions and I'm not in angst : - ) or trying to make circular arguments. However, certain facts about this lifestyle are incontrovertible.
I asked earlier if anyone could show me examples of sites which facilitate well-endowed males of other races or nationalities copulatring with white women. The rresponse? Crickets. Silence because they simply don't exist. There is no interest in seeing men of other races or nationalities having sex with white women because, it is viewed simply as sex between equals; Move on. Nothing to see here.
I too. have been fortunate enough to live, work and visit a number of countries and America is unique in this regard: It treats its (black) citizens as is they are foreign-like and treats foreigners (especially ones who are doing well, professionals, skilled workers etc) as if they are American-like.
As stated earlier, iy is no big deal when men of other races, nationalities or backgrounds have sex with white women, but when it comes to the case of a black man doing so, it is taboo and that gets the "exceitent" levels to take off. Which explains the raison d'être for this lifestyle which is for couples to get off on "raw", "primitive" (their words, not mine) act of seeing their wives have sexual intercourse with and being plowed by well-endowed lesser beings.
Or, it could be that we don't see men from different races "getting down" with white women because it would be boring. The contrast in skin color alone sets us apart from the non-black men. And exactly who would want to see a Japanese man seducing a white woman? It would be stiff, awkward and make some people cringe. In fact, have you ever heard ANY woman even suggest that "yes, she's had long held dreams of fucking someone from China?" Many white women have that dream or fantasy about us (some go as far back as middle school or high school). Perhaps we have a way of carrying ourselves, a way of pleasuring a woman that other men don't have. We have an advantage in many walks of life due to our skills, the way we carry ourselves, the passion we put into being better than other men, be it in major sports, music, entertainment and in corporate offices that non-black men do not have. As an executive for a Fortune Top 10 company, I refuse to accept that white women are much more aggressive in pursuit of a night out with me because I'm "not equal" to the other executives. Hell, check out Obama and tell me that he doesn't have a natural smoothness and confidence that whites, Asians and others simply cannot match. Do you think white women are attracted to men like him because he is NOT equal with other men? You have your opinion, and I respect that. However, my life experiences do not match your preconceptions.
 
Or, it could be that we don't see men from different races "getting down" with white women because it would be boring. The contrast in skin color alone sets us apart from the non-black men. And exactly who would want to see a Japanese man seducing a white woman? It would be stiff, awkward and make some people cringe. In fact, have you ever heard ANY woman even suggest that "yes, she's had long held dreams of fucking someone from China?" Many white women have that dream or fantasy about us (some go as far back as middle school or high school). Perhaps we have a way of carrying ourselves, a way of pleasuring a woman that other men don't have. We have an advantage in many walks of life due to our skills, the way we carry ourselves, the passion we put into being better than other men, be it in major sports, music, entertainment and in corporate offices that non-black men do not have. As an executive for a Fortune Top 10 company, I refuse to accept that white women are much more aggressive in pursuit of a night out with me because I'm "not equal" to the other executives. Hell, check out Obama and tell me that he doesn't have a natural smoothness and confidence that whites, Asians and others simply cannot match. Do you think white women are attracted to men like him because he is NOT equal with other men? You have your opinion, and I respect that. However, my life experiences do not match your preconceptions.
That's a bit presumptious to assume tht a Japannese male can't rock a white women's world sexually. or that a chinesse man can't, don't you think? Being well-endowed and having good sexual energy aren't exclusive to black men. As as for white woman having a dream or fantasy, you do know that is almost entirely due to the crude racial stereotypes that whites have been creating about black men for centuries???
Touché about Obama's verve and confidence, but you can be sure he is hardly the type to be used as a crude sex objet by white couples, enabling the wife and husband to get off on her having "primitive , "raw" sexual intercourse with him.
 
5th of December 2032...this discussion lingers on and I'll still be enjoying women of all colors and creeds🤣
Not a problem. Some discussions go on and on. It's the nature of a forum. Good for you. Enjoy. It's one thing to enjoy single-type women of all colors and creeds, and quite another to be used as a well-hung sex c reature by white husbands and wives. But her, what ever floats your boat, as the saying goes. :)
 
Not a problem. Some discussions go on and on. It's the nature of a forum. Good for you. Enjoy. It's one thing to enjoy single-type women of all colors and creeds, and quite another to be used as a well-hung sex c reature by white husbands and wives. But her, what ever floats your boat, as the saying goes. :)
Therefore I an the Yamamoto...minus the sinking 🤣
 
That's a bit presumptious to assume tht a Japannese male can't rock a white women's world sexually. or that a chinesse man can't, don't you think? Being well-endowed and having good sexual energy aren't exclusive to black men. As as for white woman having a dream or fantasy, you do know that is almost entirely due to the crude racial stereotypes that whites have been creating about black men for centuries???
Touché about Obama's verve and confidence, but you can be sure he is hardly the type to be used as a crude sex objet by white couples, enabling the wife and husband to get off on her having "primitive , "raw" sexual intercourse with him.
I presume if there was huge interest, there would be multiple sites for it, all with a huge number of paying members. So, no, I'm not being presumptuous at all. Curious about one thing, then I'll let this go. Why are you not on a dating site instead of a fantasy/fucking site. That is where you're most likely to meet white women who want to hold hands and look into your eyes over a candlelight dinner. Here (according to you), were all objects being used. As Bill Withers sang, "If it feels this good being used, you can keep on using me, 'till you use me up!"
 
Do you find yourself thinking if you are devaluing or reducing yourself to a second class stautus by engaging in meetings ?

I ask this because when white women hook up with men of other backgrounds nationalities etc, even though it is a sex hookup there usuallly is some preamble or intro to it. It could be hanging out in the park, meeting for drinks, playing a friendly game of ping pong or some other fun flirty activity. It is common knowledge that this sort of buildup makes the sex even better. I mean white women don't hesitate to be seen out with other races and nationalities an even loop their arm through the guys arm as a friendly inviting gesture. We are not talking about dating here or romance, just hanging out briefly before doing getting down to business, as the saying goes.

So it tells you something when they will openly be in the company of other, but for black men this is not an option an they will only hook up with one undercover and unseen on these types sites.

Some may say I just want the sex, but in the examples I cited above the goal is getting laid too, it is just that is done in a more civil social format.

So,do you that that by agreeing to meet on places where people don't want to associate with you openly, that you implicitly reducing yourself to a second-class or lower status individual?
is your assertion that a married woman would be ok with being seen, in public, with a white man, who is not her hubby, but would not because someone is black?

i have dated several married woman over the years & none wanted to be seen in public with someone to whom she is not married.

in today's world, i, really, don't think race or ethnicity matters, relative to this subject.
 
is your assertion that a married woman would be ok with being seen, in public, with a white man, who is not her hubby, but would not because someone is black?

i have dated several married woman over the years & none wanted to be seen in public with someone to whom she is not married.

in today's world, i, really, don't think race or ethnicity matters, relative to this subject.
Well, Hello! married women of any color would not want to be seen out and about with a man who is not their partner. But that is not what I was talking about. I said that whites in this lifestyle get off on seeing their wives or girlfriends having raw primitive brutish intercourse with these types of well-endowed men. and these are the very types of ppl they avoid in real life. And that is why you find sites likes this to procure black men as sexual objects or chattel, and why you would not finds sites likes these for other races of men.
 
Do you find yourself thinking if you are devaluing or reducing yourself to a second class stautus by engaging in meetings ?

I ask this because when white women hook up with men of other backgrounds nationalities etc, even though it is a sex hookup there usuallly is some preamble or intro to it. It could be hanging out in the park, meeting for drinks, playing a friendly game of ping pong or some other fun flirty activity. It is common knowledge that this sort of buildup makes the sex even better. I mean white women don't hesitate to be seen out with other races and nationalities an even loop their arm through the guys arm as a friendly inviting gesture. We are not talking about dating here or romance, just hanging out briefly before doing getting down to business, as the saying goes.

So it tells you something when they will openly be in the company of other, but for black men this is not an option an they will only hook up with one undercover and unseen on these types sites.

Some may say I just want the sex, but in the examples I cited above the goal is getting laid too, it is just that is done in a more civil social format.

So,do you that that by agreeing to meet on places where people don't want to associate with you openly, that you implicitly reducing yourself to a second-class or lower status individual?
I kind of addressed this on another thread. Though I haven't directly experienced it..in fact often it's the opposite for me. Over the years, most of the white women I've been with wanted to enjoy some form of "courting" from me which included at times publicly before the first time having sex and definitely afterwards. Some of them found it thrilling to be seen with me publicly and to be asked about it later and to be able to play it off. Although, it is harder for the "mature" women to pull off the notion being seen with a younger looking guy of any skin color is just platonic, so in their case it's almost done purposely to say..."yup I may be older but I can still pull them...in fact I pulled a black guy".
But I have heard from some white women about not being willing, able to or interested in any other kinds of interaction of than pure sex and definitely not public interactions.
IMHO, it comes down to a few basic principles...1). What is the desire of the women? Is it purely sexual and nothing else? Or is she willing and/or interested in allowing herself to build the sexual tension in other ways other than straight get the dick hard, fuck me, cum and leave? 2). What is the arrangement with her husband/bf? Often times despite what you may read or see in porn...not a lot of husbands want their wives/gfs forming any kind of bond other than pure sex(i.e.,. no kissing, no long texts, no calls other than to arrange meets, no intimacy). And especially are not interested in having their wives/gf be seen publicly with a black man where any indication of sexual interest or desire on her part is seen by others. It is just about seeing/knowing their wives/gfs FUCK a black guy. Nothing else...period!
Like it or not...looks, style, perceptions, etc matter to MOST people. For soem white folks older than 45, it is NOT as acceptable publicly to display sexual attraction to black men. Younger white women do not have as often the same social pressures because their generation is much more mixed socially. So the notion of seeing high school/college/ young professional age white girls with black guys doesn't draw nearly as much attention as it would the same women perceived to be older. Sure we can have a healthy debate all day long about right or wrong...good or bad. It is what it is.
To further address your question...publicly you see far more white women with men other than white but NOT black. Examples...Asian, South Asian, Latin, Middle Eastern. Men of African descent are not often viewed socially as other men are...we are more likely often associated "sexually" than in other ways.
This is ALSO similar with other non-white women. Very few Asian, South Asian, Middle Eastern, South American women publicly are seen in NON-platonic ways with black men. But the same women OFTEN openly date/flirt/marry men other than themselves, just not black.
Again...like it or hate it. The truth of the matter is if we are all being honest..that observation is generally very true. So the mere presence of a black man with a white woman...for some people automatically carries a social stigma. For some white couples/wives/gfs in certain parts of the country or world...publicly that is a bit much for them. So behaving publicly in ways that can be perceived beyond platonic...can be very uncomfortable and unsettling. It doesn't necessarily mean she does not want to "date/court/or interact publicly" with you in some form or fashion like she potentially would others. Her reality and our reality often is different.
For me, I long ago stopped meeting women that "just" want to fuck and leave. Nothing wrong with it..if that is your thing...PLENTY of men nor matter their skin color that are willing and able. I have found throughout the years, the sex is sooo much better with some kind of sexual tension build up that can only be developed via time spent together. That could mean just phone calls, texts, meet for coffee, after work meet, whatever. Again, there is more than one way to enjoy this lifestyle and the bottom line is the women drive what really happens in these encounters. Afterall women control access to sex...not men. But if allowed men can influence the depth of the sexual experience with women (and potentially the thrill of her husband/bf knowing how enjoyable sex with us is for her publicly or privately).
Just my thoughts...
 
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Do you find yourself thinking if you are devaluing or reducing yourself to a second class stautus by engaging in meetings ?

I ask this because when white women hook up with men of other backgrounds nationalities etc, even though it is a sex hookup there usuallly is some preamble or intro to it. It could be hanging out in the park, meeting for drinks, playing a friendly game of ping pong or some other fun flirty activity. It is common knowledge that this sort of buildup makes the sex even better. I mean white women don't hesitate to be seen out with other races and nationalities an even loop their arm through the guys arm as a friendly inviting gesture. We are not talking about dating here or romance, just hanging out briefly before doing getting down to business, as the saying goes.

So it tells you something when they will openly be in the company of other, but for black men this is not an option an they will only hook up with one undercover and unseen on these types sites.

Some may say I just want the sex, but in the examples I cited above the goal is getting laid too, it is just that is done in a more civil social format.

So,do you that that by agreeing to meet on places where people don't want to associate with you openly, that you implicitly reducing yourself to a second-class or lower status individual?
I had a change of mind for this post. Sometimes I do feels kinda devalued because a lot of white women are comfortable with fucking black men behind closed doors while being extremely discreet about it in public. I'm finding it easier to sleep with white wives on the down low rather than being accepted as a black boyfriend for single white women. I will apologize for my earlier comment. Reflecting on it I can say it was out of pocket.
 
I kind of addressed this on another thread. Though I haven't directly experienced it..in fact often it's the opposite for me. Over the years, most of the white women I've been with wanted to enjoy some form of "courting" from me which included at times publicly before the first time having sex and definitely afterwards. Some of them found it thrilling to be seen with me publicly and to be asked about it later and to be able to play it off. Although, it is harder for the "mature" women to pull off the notion being seen with a younger looking guy of any skin color is just platonic, so in their case it's almost done purposely to say..."yup I may be older but I can still pull them...in fact I pulled a black guy".
But I have heard from some white women about not being willing, able to or interested in any other kinds of interaction of than pure sex and definitely not public interactions.
IMHO, it comes down to a few basic principles...1). What is the desire of the women? Is it purely sexual and nothing else? Or is she willing and/or interested in allowing herself to build the sexual tension in other ways other than straight get the dick hard, fuck me, cum and leave? 2). What is the arrangement with her husband/bf? Often times despite what you may read or see in porn...not a lot of husbands want their wives/gfs forming any kind of bond other than pure sex(i.e.,. no kissing, no long texts, no calls other than to arrange meets, no intimacy). And especially are not interested in having their wives/gf be seen publicly with a black man where any indication of sexual interest or desire on her part is seen by others. It is just about seeing/knowing their wives/gfs FUCK a black guy. Nothing else...period!
Like it or not...looks, style, perceptions, etc matter to MOST people. For soem white folks older than 45, it is NOT as acceptable publicly to display sexual attraction to black men. Younger white women do not have as often the same social pressures because their generation is much more mixed socially. So the notion of seeing high school/college/ young professional age white girls with black guys doesn't draw nearly as much attention as it would the same women perceived to be older. Sure we can have a healthy debate all day long about right or wrong...good or bad. It is what it is.
To further address your question...publicly you see far more white women with men other than white but NOT black. Examples...Asian, South Asian, Latin, Middle Eastern. Men of African descent are not often viewed socially as other men are...we are more likely often associated "sexually" than in other ways.
This is ALSO similar with other non-white women. Very few Asian, South Asian, Middle Eastern, South American women publicly are seen in NON-platonic ways with black men. But the same women OFTEN openly date/flirt/marry men other than themselves, just not black.
Again...like it or hate it. The truth of the matter is if we are all being honest..that observation is generally very true. So the mere presence of a black man with a white woman...for some people automatically carries a social stigma. For some white couples/wives/gfs in certain parts of the country or world...publicly that is a bit much for them. So behaving publicly in ways that can be perceived beyond platonic...can be very uncomfortable and unsettling. It doesn't necessarily mean she does not want to "date/court/or interact publicly" with you in some form or fashion like she potentially would others. Her reality and our reality often is different.
For me, I long ago stopped meeting women that "just" want to fuck and leave. Nothing wrong with it..if that is your thing...PLENTY of men nor matter their skin color that are willing and able. I have found throughout the years, the sex is sooo much better with some kind of sexual tension build up that can only be developed via time spent together. That could mean just phone calls, texts, meet for coffee, after work meet, whatever. Again, there is more than one way to enjoy this lifestyle and the bottom line is the women drive what really happens in these encounters. Afterall women control access to sex...not men. But if allowed men can influence the depth of the sexual experience with women (and potentially the thrill of her husband/bf knowing how enjoyable sex with us is for her publicly or privately).
Just my thoughts...
Well thought through and articulated reply. Kudos.
 
I am thinking about getting out of this lifestyle for good soon. It been fun fucking white wives, but the feeling of being devalued is starting to mess with me.
 
I am East Indian and was fortunate to interact with black women and men from Kenya, South Africa, Tanzania, Ethiopia. I found them to be very humble, absolutely comfortable in their skin, and Amazing personalities. Also, Some of them do confide in exploring sexual interests with other races. It’s a human tendency to be attracted to different, I guess.
 
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