I am not voting for Trump he is far to left for me.....i want a real conservative. Our country is screwed especially if he cant beat Hillary.
Donald Trump's only real talent is for self promotion. Like Hillary Clinton he will do or say about anything to get elected.
Hahahaha.....i hope thats sarcasm....solar panels.....really. do you live in the east. We get about 1 day a week with sun ....if were lucky and less in the winter so solar panels are not for ******* out here. And if you want someone who will bankrupt the country Bernie is your man especially if your rich then your fucked.
What do you think is going to happen when the kid flipping burgers is making $15hr. Somebody has to eat that extra cost and i am pretty sure its going to be the consumer.
Well i am a republican and i do pay taxes. If a person is making 2 million he is not paying less tax than someone making 70k and if he is and he is doing it legally then good for him , most likely if he is he is doing it illegally.
These kind of broad stroke comments play right into their hands, Jyaku. You'll have more luck talking to yourself in the mirror than here. Even Charles Koch, last week on TV, admits that the wealthiest Americans take advantage of the tax system we have ... they ought to know, THEY basically wrote it.
Show me a flat tax that is progressive and sustainable and I'll take a nibble at your idea. Why don't you explain that one out for us. For example, if you start taxable income at $25-30,000 for individuals, and $45-50,000 for families, for example, and everyone earning $200,000 & above is paying a flat 20-25% income tax, where is all that lost revenue going to come from? Cuts in entitlements? Cuts in exemptions? And if so, how much? As it seems that old saying "we won't tax you, and we won't tax me, we'll tax that man behind the tree" (Senator Russell Long-La) quote come up. In case you don't understand who it is that they intend to tax behind that tree ... its the middle class tax payer. So, what loopholes, credits, deductions would be discontinued for the rich? How much cut to military (we spend more than the next 8 countries combined, now).
Thats because a true flat tax has never been done...when i say flat i mean flat....it doesnt matter if you make 20,000 a year or 20 million everyone pays the same tax rate. And if more revenue is needed then yes by all means cut programs, i am pretty sure the Bloated US government can fine lots of ways to cut programs and entitlements and other things as well without having to cut military spending....how about foreign aid....i am all for helping folks around the world but we need to reign in some of that ******* until we can get this defecit heading in the right direction.
.....And its probably never been done because it is such an absurd and ridiculous suggestion. So, let's get this one straight, you have a guy making $25,000 a year (above the poverty line) and you toss him into the welfare, poverty line by taking 20-25% of his income for taxes ... that's $5,000-$6,000? What's wrong with you?
Explain to me how we republicans are focused on me, me , me when i am suggesting that we ALL pay are fair share. You seem to have a problem with me suggesting that someone who makes 25 k a year pay 20 percent tax but perfectly ok making someone who makes 200k pay a 50 percent tax or whatever you socialists think the "rich" should pay, how is that fair....al i am asking is we all pay our Fair share as you suggested.
.....And that is ALL I'm suggesting as well. You mention my desire to tax the rich at 50% ... I never said that. But let's expand on that comment you made "pay our Fair share".
I am not going to pretend i know all about these loopholes and how it all works but my thought is this if they are doing it within the law then i dont see a problem, if we can ever get to a flat tax and the powers that be decide that these loopholes should be closed based on the way the tax works i am fine with that. as far as spending in the military yes i agree that they do a very poor job at managing money in government and that needs fixed.
... then maybe Torp will come to your rescue and explain that for you. He professes to being a 1%er, I'm sure he knows and can chime in. You certainly shouldn't be willing to support something that you profess "not knowing all the loopholes", because that's exactly what the wealthiest want to hear from you ... ignorance is bliss to their ears.
You're hintingly stereotyping, here, Alanm. There are a lot more white ******* on welfare than "minorities" ... simply because of the larger number of whites than minorities.
You're still sterotyping, here, Alanm. The world/challenges of the poor is quite different from the world of the rich or well-to-do family. Unless you've lived in their environment, how do you know their challenges? If we're going to move a majority of our population towards a more likely outcome of prosperity, let's at least agree that education is a major tool in accomplishing that, and let's agree that some ******* simply need more help for that equal opportunity. You don't seem to feel that way. There's a new (well, not new now as its been out a while) Monopoly game ... Monopoly For Capitalists ... the game starts with each player having different privileges and rules than the other players. For example, the initial distribution of money goes unevenly, and the cards the players pull from (Chance & Community Chest) are biased and different. And the Go To Jail only applies to the poor players, not the rich who plays his free lawyer card, etc. You need to purchase this game and have some of your friends play the game with you. You might grasp/appreciate a bit more what I'm trying to explain to you.
The problem isn't taxation, the problem is spending. The federal government has a 19 trillion dollar hole to deal with and it gets deeper every day. And the government is running out of places to raise funds.
There is a bit more truth to Alanm statement than you realize. Many lottery winners end up broke in a few years because they have no money management experience or skills. Poor people live hand to mouth, they generally have no savings or investments because they have no money to save or invest. Many poor people if they receive a windfall will buy themselves something they perceive as a luxury. If I receive a windfall I will invest it in something that will give me a good return. Over the years I have mentored a number of people wanting to start a business. By far the biggest hurdles to overcome were to get the person to have a business mindset and to routinely make long term decisions. Many people live paycheck to paycheck,their total mindset is how to get to the next payday, or the next check from the state there just isn't any long term planning.
No they're not, they just won't tax themselves or give up their own conveniences. It always comes down to the middle class, which is shrinking away and/or retiring. Sooner or later they will ALL admit that a balanced approach of spending cuts and revenue increases, along with a balanced budget amendment are the only ways they'll resolve it, unless they're wanting to wipe the SS/Medicare slate clean by declaring themselves insolvable. I honestly thought (still do in a way) that was the intentions of the Bush unbudgeted tax cuts and extensions ... to "*******" Congress to make cuts to entitlements and/or privatize them.
