Again, READING COMPREHENSION....you should try it someday. I did not mention altered emails in the post that started all this. You did in your reply.
Trump wins
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Stop it act like adults not children
He is our President we all need to support him and our country
We all love this country it allows us the freedom we have
He is our President we all need to support him and our country
We all love this country it allows us the freedom we have
go back and READ what you posted and quit being a jerk!... you stated altered emails and gave a link how it was done and etc... and now you have a short memory!
he is not my president... the fucker needs to be in Jail for treason!
Analysis: Reality catching up with Trump on Russia
Julie Pace, AP White House Correspondent,Associated Press
Hours after Trump dismissed reports that his campaign associates were being scrutinized for colluding with Russia as "fake news," FBI Director James Comey confirmed the investigation is real.
The FBI chief also repeatedly insisted there was no evidence to back up Trump's explosive claim that his predecessor wiretapped his New York skyscraper.
And Adm. Michael Rogers, head of the National Security Agency, knocked down a report about Britain helping President Barack Obama with the alleged surveillance, although the White House had pointed to the report to try to boost Trump's case.
Taken together, the disclosures in Monday's lengthy House intelligence committee hearing amounted to an extraordinary undercutting of a president, whose headline-grabbing accusations and Twitter-friendly attacks crumbled quickly under the weight of sworn congressional testimony from some of the nation's top security officials.
Many of Trump's most ardent supporters are unlikely to be swayed by Monday's spectacle. Still, Trump's credibility and his standing as a reliable ally for his fellow Republicans in Congress are less assured. Even if his advisers are ultimately cleared in the Russia probe, as the White House insists they will be, the investigation could loom over Trump's presidency for months or even years, distracting from the ambitious domestic agenda he's vowed to enact.
That reality was abundantly clear Monday. Most cable news channels carried Comey and Rogers' five hours of testimony live instead of the first congressional hearing for Neil Gorsuch, Trump's widely praised nominee for the Supreme Court. The Russia hearings came as Trump tried to give a hard sell to Republicans wary of his health care package, a legislative gamble with long-lasting implications for Trump's relationship with his own party.
The president's political position was already shaky heading into Monday's hearing, the first of several public sessions the House and Senate intelligence committees are expected to hold. His approval rating has tumbled to 37 percent, according to a new Gallup poll, down 8 points from a week earlier.
Trump has long been shadowed by questions about his ties to Russia, given his friendly posture toward Moscow and his advisers' curious web of ties to Russia. The White House insists the campaign did not coordinate with Russia on the hacking of Democratic groups during the election and dismisses the swirling controversy as little more than a political witch hunt.
Yet Monday's hearings left the White House scrambling for cover, though there was little to be found.
Spokesman Sean Spicer launched into a series of confounding arguments during his daily briefing. He touted statements from lawmakers and former Obama administration officials saying they had seen no evidence of collusion between Trump associates and Russia. But he dismissed nearly identical statements from some of those same officials about Trump's wiretapping allegations, saying it was too early in the investigations to draw any conclusions.
In one particularly eyebrow-raising moment, Spicer resorted to claiming one associate, Paul Manafort, had a "very limited role" in the 2016 election. In fact, Manafort was hired in March as Trump's convention manager and promoted to campaign chairman in May. Spicer also described foreign policy adviser Michael Flynn as simply a "volunteer." Flynn traveled frequently with the president, delivered a high-profile speech at the Republican National Convention and served as his first National Security Adviser.
Both Manafort and Flynn were fired by Trump after revelations about their connections to Russia.
Manafort left the campaign in August, when news reports about his business ties to pro-Moscow Ukrainian oligarchs became a political liability. Flynn was fired in February for misleading top officials about his contacts with Russia's ambassador to the United States.
Both Manafort and Flynn are among the Trump associates under scrutiny for possible contacts with Russia during the election. The Senate intelligence committee has also asked Roger Stone, a longtime Trump adviser, and Carter Page, an investment banker who briefly advised the campaign on foreign policy, to retain documents related to its inquiry.
The White House, with the backing of some Republican lawmakers, says the real controversy is how the investigation into Trump's advisers became public. They argue the focus of the probe should be ferreting out who leaked classified information.
Trump tried to go on offense in the middle of the hearing, launching a series of tweets from his official White House account, including one that appeared to blame the Obama administration for leaking details of Flynn's contacts with the Russian envoy. Another tweet incorrectly said Comey and Rogers told lawmakers that Russia "did not influence" the electoral process.
In a moment of real-time fact-checking, the FBI director made clear that was not a declaration he had made.
"We don't have any information on that subject," he said.
FBI probe of Trump-Russia ties began 3 months before election
Michael Isikoff
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The FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into possible coordination between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, confirmed by FBI director James Comey in congressional testimony Monday, began as early as late July — just weeks after a former British spy briefed bureau agents about evidence he had collected about such ties, sources tell Yahoo News.
Christopher Steele, a former British MI-6 intelligence officer who specialized in Russian operations, had been hired as an investigator by an opposition research firm (initially retained by Trump’s Republican primary opponents and later by supporters of Hillary Clinton). According to one of the sources, it was Steele who first alerted FBI agents on July 5 to evidence he had compiled that advisers to the Trump campaign and Kremlin officials were in contact about the 2016 election.
As first reported by Yahoo News, Steele’s information was taken seriously because he had a pre-existing relationship with the FBI, having worked as a consultant for the FBI’s Eurasian organized crime section, helping to develop information about ties between suspected Russian gangsters and FIFA, the international soccer governing body.
The early contact between Steele and the bureau now appears to have set in motion a chain of events that led to Monday’s extraordinary testimony by Comey that the bureau has been actively investigating possible links between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin since “late July” — or more than three months before Election Day.
“I’ve been authorized by the Department of Justice to confirm that the FBI, as part of our counterintelligence mission, is investigating the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election,” Comey told members of the House Intelligence Committee in a prepared opening statement. “That includes investigating the nature of any links between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and whether there was any coordination between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.”
Comey’s testimony appeared to stun Republicans on the committee, one of whom, Rep. Mike Turner, R-Ohio, said the existence of the investigation means “there is now a cloud that undermines our system.”
It is not a cloud that is likely to be lifted any time soon. Comey said there was no timetable on the probe, that he couldn’t predict how long it would take, and wouldn’t commit to giving any “updates” to the Congress about the status of the probe. When asked directly by Rep. Teri Sewell, D-Ala., “Was Donald Trump under investigation during the campaign?” Comey responded: “I’m not going to answer that.” He added quickly that the members shouldn’t draw any “inferences” from his answer
The public confirmation of an investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and a foreign government was only one of the many stunning moments during Comey’s testimony. Comey testified that he did not inform congressional leaders about the existence of the probe “until recently” because “of its sensitivity.” Along with NSA director Mike Rogers, who also testified, the FBI director disputed President Trump’s contention in tweets on March 4 that his predecessor, President Barack Obama, had wiretapped him. Both said they had “no information” to support that.
In yet another development likely to anger the White House, a senior Justice Department official confirmed to Yahoo News that Comey received permission to publicly disclose the probe now from acting deputy attorney general Dana Boente, an Obama administration holdover.
Comey presumably made sure to leave the decision to reveal the existence of the investigation up to the Justice Department because of the intense criticism he faced last fall when, in the closing days of the presidential election, he publicly told Congress that the bureau had new evidence in the Hillary Clinton email probe. That disclosure, which some Clinton officials believe cost them the election, was made against the advice of senior Justice Department officials and has since triggered an investigation by the department’s inspector general’s office.
But President Trump’s attorney general, Jeff Sessions, has formally recused himself from investigations of the Trump campaign, in which he played a leading role, and did not participate in the decision about what Comey should say.
That left the call to Boente — a career federal prosecutor who served as Obama’s U.S. attorney in Louisiana and later in northern Virginia. Asked the basis for Boente’s decision, and whether he had consulted others in the department, a senior department official declined to comment about “internal” deliberations.
Comey declined to say what precipitated the probe or to identify which individuals were under investigation for possible links to Moscow. But his acknowledgment that the probe dates to late July means that it began during a hectic month in which one of Trump’s foreign policy advisers, Carter Page, flew to Moscow and, according to Steele’s report to the bureau, allegedly met with senior Kremlin operatives close to President Vladimir Putin. It also came shortly after media reports that Trump campaign officials, during the Republican National Convention, which ended on July 20, changed the GOP platform to remove a plank calling for the U.S. government to provide weapons to Ukrainian forces resisting Russian-backed troops in that country.
Page has repeatedly derided the Steele dossier claims as “fake news,” even writing letters to Comey and the Justice Department to dispute them. Yahoo News reported that the FBI was investigating the Page allegations in September in a story that was the first to disclose the existence of a bureau investigation into any links between the campaign and the Russian government.
what does this say?
right here... you are talking altered Hillary emails....
Luckily we don't need memories. We can go read actual posts. READ 1557. I said NOTHING about altered emails. You replied claiming emails were doctored in 1558. I then gave proof in 1559 they were not doctored.
"That says" the subwoofer is jumping way ahead to 1571 after HE had already brought up altered emails...since he's obviously lost the argument but can't admit defeat.
And for the umpteenth time, if you can prove they were doctored stop jacking off on a porn site and go collect the $1,000 for doing so.
and like I said several posts back... but you keep wanting to argue... I am not disputing DB gave answers to Hillary... I already said that!
and for the umpteenth time... a lot of Hillary's emails were doctored.... by Gowdy... the cia and gowdy admitted that... as for DB and Hillary... am NOT arguing that...
you are right on THAT ... is that what you want to hear?
if I wasn't such a nice guy I would be using a lot of 4 letter words about now
luckily I am MR. Congeniality.....
But since I am a nice guy I will accept your apology and move on
hahhaha
post 1558 your post...Turns out is was just what we expected. Brazile has now admitted she gave Hillary the questions saying it was “a mistake I will forever regret.”
my post.....I don't now... nor never did think that she didn't.... they have been to close for a long time..... as for the e-mails... some were doctored... and they showed the proof of that at one time
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I had you down as MR. CutNpaste.
Seriously pal, don't copy the whole website - no one is reading it, not even you
I cut n paste things where the right is fucking the working people.... and because you are not interested... don't say others aren't... I get 2 or 3 people every week put a Like or now following you in my mail box... so someone must be reading... and i'm pretty sure that even some of those on the right who disagree with about everything I post... read some of it.... so you go ahead and read the funny page for current event's... I will post where the middle class is getting fucked
I'm really not sure why some of them won't say something here or make a comment... I have said something several times to several of them.... but then some on here from the right can be a real pain sometimes
and I don't know why you would think I am not reading it.... I had to read and liked it or I wouldn't have posted it!
note: I also cut n paste anything where Trump is in trouble... can't wait for him to get impeached and maybe even jailed!
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Yes, but getting a 'like' doesn't really mean much does it? I can post a picture of the arse of a woman and get more likes than any of your posts. What does that tell us? Nothing. So don't kid yourself that group think makes you justified or correct.
As for the cut and paste, well if you really were to read it you'd see that at times you copy some of the page formatting as well, such as 'click here to make this mobile friendly' or similar. It means your article doesn't make much sense and certainly becomes difficult to read. Instead of it being a well reasoned critique of the Trump administration (which I'm sure you intend), instead it comes over as a mad old man shouting at the moon.
But please do carry on because mad old men just like mad old women are hugely entertaining and I wouldn't want my fun spoiled.
they all have links at the bottom if reading what I posted is to much but I'm guessing you being from the UK could care less about our SS or Medicare or....
and
you know what they say about opinions!
but it sounds like you just want to argue about... something...
you do know there is no requirement for you to read everything posted don't you?
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matter of fact with you being from the UK... and me posting things that effect workers... or about Trumps Treasonous activities... I really doubt that anything I post would interest you at all!.... but anything you post "bad" about me there are a few on the right that will like what you say... so do what you want.... I will certainly do the same!
.....Don't mean to butt into your fun conversation with subhub, but you are under-valuing the importance of "likes" ... it means a lot to the site administrators to know which members help generate interest in their websites. You don't think allowing members to "like" a topic or comment was put here strictly for member ego & convenience, do you? Afterall, its all about "traffic" ... and they wish to know who helps contribute to the traffic ... whether its "likes", "# of followers to a member", or simply generating comments that cause other members to discuss topics such as this one. It helps the website "develop" in the interests of its readers. There's an old salesman's saying that a good salesman either generates "excitement" or "disturbance" with his clients in order to get them to react (buy) to what he offers them. Being that this site is primarily focused on interracial interests, this website was not intended to become a site for political discussions, thus why a specific area of the forum was roped off to allow us to have off-topic discussions without disturbing the other members who joined specifically to discuss black2white dating topics.
.....As far as subhub's discussions .... I rather like his topics since I'm a liberal myself. I think he holds his own pretty well against some of the boneheads here. I just recall, during the campaigning, that a lot of Republicans and Trump use to remind voters that Hillary Clinton could possibly be the first president elect to be under Federal investigation ... well, he was close .... its TRUMP who's now under federal investigation, and I can tell you, its a lot, lot more serious than Benghazi, and when the dominos fall, and they WILL fall, they'll take a lot of people with them.
Be wary about making assumptions.....
Spot on. I don't disagree with a single word
I will stick with my comments... all of them
matter of fact with you being from the UK... and me posting things that effect workers... or about Trumps Treasonous activities... I really doubt that anything I post would interest you at all!....
but it sounds like you just want to argue about... something...
you do know there is no requirement for you to read everything posted don't you?
A CFO is a bit more than a book keeper. I am on this site because I am a horny bastard that likes IR sex. This category got started because Mac and I got into numerous debates that tended to be off topic on the threads were debating on. So the "Off Topic" category got created and I think took off a good deal more than was originally anticipated
A CFO is a bit more than a book keeper. I am on this site because I am a horny bastard that likes IR sex. This category got started because Mac and I got into numerous debates that tended to be off topic on the threads were debating on. So the "Off Topic" category got created and I think took off a good deal more than was originally anticipated
