Taking it to the next level

wiwife

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Well progressing to a new level. About 15 years ago I cut off penetration sex with hubby. Just not feeling it and we both agreed, him reluctantly. About 7 years ago I denied him touching my upset and nipples. I still enjoy his massages of my feet, legs, butt, back, arms and legs (no nipples). During morning massages in bed, on occasion I would touch his small penis if he requested it. Pathetic and only a sympathetic touch and hand jod. As of two months ago that has cessed. Massaging me in the morning spooning me he ask for me to touch him. I said NO and left the bed. Two weeks later the same situation occurred and I just left the bed without saying a thing. He continues to massage me with no requests. Guess he figures rejection is now too tough.
 
Well progressing to a new level. About 15 years ago I cut off penetration sex with hubby. Just not feeling it and we both agreed, him reluctantly. About 7 years ago I denied him touching my upset and nipples. I still enjoy his massages of my feet, legs, butt, back, arms and legs (no nipples). During morning massages in bed, on occasion I would touch his small penis if he requested it. Pathetic and only a sympathetic touch and hand jod. As of two months ago that has cessed. Massaging me in the morning spooning me he ask for me to touch him. I said NO and left the bed. Two weeks later the same situation occurred and I just left the bed without saying a thing. He continues to massage me with no requests. Guess he figures rejection is now too tough.
Our marriage is much like you are describing here. Hubby here, and similarly, 15 years ago began my period of denial that led to chastity a couple of years later. My restrictions are strikingly similar to those which you've imposed upon your hubby. You are correct in that enough rejection will in fact result in either complete "rebellion" or total acceptance and acquiescence. It seems that in his and my case, it is the latter.
 
Well progressing to a new level. About 15 years ago I cut off penetration sex with hubby. Just not feeling it and we both agreed, him reluctantly. About 7 years ago I denied him touching my upset and nipples. I still enjoy his massages of my feet, legs, butt, back, arms and legs (no nipples). During morning massages in bed, on occasion I would touch his small penis if he requested it. Pathetic and only a sympathetic touch and hand jod. As of two months ago that has cessed. Massaging me in the morning spooning me he ask for me to touch him. I said NO and left the bed. Two weeks later the same situation occurred and I just left the bed without saying a thing. He continues to massage me with no requests. Guess he figures rejection is now too tough.
I’d kick your ass out in a heartbeat if I were him but what the hell... to each his own.
 
Please understand I love him for his emotional support. He helps clean the house and do the lawn work and financial support. He is a great ******* but physically not making it.
So, do you get sex somewhere else then?
 
Please understand I love him for his emotional support. He helps clean the house and do the lawn work and financial support. He is a great ******* but physically not making it.
I would have packed your bags and sent you down the road years ago! It amazes me some of the ******* some of these guys put up with from ungrateful bitches! I may even bang your sister or mom too,maybe both of them!
 
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I think some people are being a little harsh in this thread.
This is one of the more extreme branches of cuckolding. The dynamic seems to work for both of them. He still adores her and seems to enjoy getting the contact that he does.
It's clearly not an arrangement for everyone, but it seems to work in some fashion for wiwife and her cuckold husband.
I'm more curious about why she posted it without adding her thoughts on it.

Is she happy with the cuckolding arrangement?
Would she prefer to be single?
Does turning him down excite her when she's with a bull?
Does she wish he'd get in better physical shape?
Or has she reached a point where she no longer sees him as a man?
Those are things we want to know.
 
I think some people are being a little harsh in this thread.
This is one of the more extreme branches of cuckolding. The dynamic seems to work for both of them. He still adores her and seems to enjoy getting the contact that he does.
It's clearly not an arrangement for everyone, but it seems to work in some fashion for wiwife and her cuckold husband.
I'm more curious about why she posted it without adding her thoughts on it.

Is she happy with the cuckolding arrangement?
Would she prefer to be single?
Does turning him down excite her when she's with a bull?
Does she wish he'd get in better physical shape?
Or has she reached a point where she no longer sees him as a man?
Those are things we want to know.
Does he? Still adore her?

Because sometimes when I hear stories like this, I wonder if it's possible the man is just so broken and conditioned to believe that he is unworthy of being loved and admired back.

I am coming around to cuckold play for my husband, it was his request.. but it goes against my instinct and desire to humiliate or deny him. He does wish I would do this more, especially in the heat of the moment which I'm beginning to make more sense of. The only way I am remotely comfortable with it, however, is by reconnecting with him afterward, and reassuring him that I love him and still very much enjoy sex with him as well. And that even though this type of lifestyle was difficult for me to wrap my head around, I'm incredibly grateful that he gets such a thrill out of seeing me with other men. At first I was adamantly against the idea of it, but after finally taking the leap and getting that "high" from looking into my husbands eyes as I'm either sucking a bull or being fucked by one... That's a gift that only my husband has given me. And I feel closer to him because of it.
 
Does he? Still adore her?

Because sometimes when I hear stories like this, I wonder if it's possible the man is just so broken and conditioned to believe that he is unworthy of being loved and admired back.

I am coming around to cuckold play for my husband, it was his request.. but it goes against my instinct and desire to humiliate or deny him. He does wish I would do this more, especially in the heat of the moment which I'm beginning to make more sense of. The only way I am remotely comfortable with it, however, is by reconnecting with him afterward, and reassuring him that I love him and still very much enjoy sex with him as well. And that even though this type of lifestyle was difficult for me to wrap my head around, I'm incredibly grateful that he gets such a thrill out of seeing me with other men. At first I was adamantly against the idea of it, but after finally taking the leap and getting that "high" from looking into my husbands eyes as I'm either sucking a bull or being fucked by one... That's a gift that only my husband has given me. And I feel closer to him because of it.
I can't expect you to understand how a cuckold's mind works. While we're all slightly different, the majority of what a cuckold gets off on is being treated unfairly by the woman of his desires. It's the mind-fuck.
He clearly still adores her if he massages her body. He wouldn't touch her at all if he had lost interest.

Humiliation may or may not be a part of the equation. Denial is often more a part of it. It's the chase without being able to fully "capture" the woman, because she is giving her attention to another man, or men.

I can see from your words, you aren't naturally inclined to be a cuckoldress. Some women are. They take to it like a fish to water.
You were introduced to it and it grew on you. Cool. Maybe the other levels will over the course of time. What works for you two as a couple is what works for you two as a couple.
The OP and her husband have something that works for them. Maybe it's not perfect for them, but we don't know. We're not hearing both sides and we're only hearing snippits of the activity.

They have ******* together, they have a family. She doesn't come across as one of these new Twitter twits who is just looking for a cuckold to open his wallet. That batch of women are the ones I have a problem with.
 
I can relate to wiwife. My relationship was pretty similar with my hubby. Sexually he couldn’t meet my needs. I cut him off to once a week and then once a month. Eventually cut him off all together. He wasn’t happy and sexually frustrated. He resorted to masturbation for his release. He eventually stopped asking and accepted his position as my husband (provider) and not my lover. It’s been fifteen years now.
 
I can't expect you to understand how a cuckold's mind works. While we're all slightly different, the majority of what a cuckold gets off on is being treated unfairly by the woman of his desires. It's the mind-fuck.
He clearly still adores her if he massages her body. He wouldn't touch her at all if he had lost interest.

Humiliation may or may not be a part of the equation. Denial is often more a part of it. It's the chase without being able to fully "capture" the woman, because she is giving her attention to another man, or men.

I can see from your words, you aren't naturally inclined to be a cuckoldress. Some women are. They take to it like a fish to water.
You were introduced to it and it grew on you. Cool. Maybe the other levels will over the course of time. What works for you two as a couple is what works for you two as a couple.
The OP and her husband have something that works for them. Maybe it's not perfect for them, but we don't know. We're not hearing both sides and we're only hearing snippits of the activity.

They have ******* together, they have a family. She doesn't come across as one of these new Twitter twits who is just looking for a cuckold to open his wallet. That batch of women are the ones I have a problem with.
I did read that it brings back that fascination you have in the stage of the chase, that naturally dies off after years together. My husband and I have two *******, married 13 years so I understand this. And you're right about certain aspects growing on me, and not being a good fit for a cuckoldress myself... I feel it would break my heart to treat my husband this way, even if it's what he desired.
 
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Does he? Still adore her?

Because sometimes when I hear stories like this, I wonder if it's possible the man is just so broken and conditioned to believe that he is unworthy of being loved and admired back.

I am coming around to cuckold play for my husband, it was his request.. but it goes against my instinct and desire to humiliate or deny him. He does wish I would do this more, especially in the heat of the moment which I'm beginning to make more sense of. The only way I am remotely comfortable with it, however, is by reconnecting with him afterward, and reassuring him that I love him and still very much enjoy sex with him as well. And that even though this type of lifestyle was difficult for me to wrap my head around, I'm incredibly grateful that he gets such a thrill out of seeing me with other men. At first I was adamantly against the idea of it, but after finally taking the leap and getting that "high" from looking into my husbands eyes as I'm either sucking a bull or being fucked by one... That's a gift that only my husband has given me. And I feel closer to him because of it.
WOW! You’re one hell of a woman and I hope your husband knows how lucky he is to have you!
 
Does he? Still adore her?

Because sometimes when I hear stories like this, I wonder if it's possible the man is just so broken and conditioned to believe that he is unworthy of being loved and admired back.

I am coming around to cuckold play for my husband, it was his request.. but it goes against my instinct and desire to humiliate or deny him. He does wish I would do this more, especially in the heat of the moment which I'm beginning to make more sense of. The only way I am remotely comfortable with it, however, is by reconnecting with him afterward, and reassuring him that I love him and still very much enjoy sex with him as well. And that even though this type of lifestyle was difficult for me to wrap my head around, I'm incredibly grateful that he gets such a thrill out of seeing me with other men. At first I was adamantly against the idea of it, but after finally taking the leap and getting that "high" from looking into my husbands eyes as I'm either sucking a bull or being fucked by one... That's a gift that only my husband has given me. And I feel closer to him because of it.
The gift you talk about is the part I've tried to explain to my wife when we've talked about sharing her with another man that I can't seem to explain in a way that she can understand. I have no interest in the humiliation that some seem to get off on nor does she and we already have a great sex life just between us but her past lovers and ex husband especially have left her with very little self confidence that I think would be helped very much by her feeling desired by another man enough that he was interested in enjoyment as well as his own. In here words I only think she's sexy and great in bed cuz I love her and I'm her husband and I'm supposed to think that but other men wouldn't think that way. I'd love to see her proven wrong and the gain of self confidence she would get from that but she says she would feel like she was cheating and doesn't know why I would be willing to let her do that. I've tried to explain that by giving my permission and letting her fuck another guy that it actually makes me a better lover cuz I look at it as if that's something none of her previous partners would have been willing to give her cuz they were selfish and only interested in their own enjoyment or feelings and would rather deny her sexual pleasure than swallow their own pride and jealousy. She says she gets what I'm saying but she's not really sure that's how I'd feel when it happened and that she's afraid if get hurt feelings and feel like she had cheated on me but the fact that she even worries about that when I'm handing her a free hall pass is the reason I wouldn't feel like she was cheating for even 1 second cuz or be jealous cuz clearly my feelings are more important to her than giving in to her desires or she wouldn't have even hesitated when I gave her permission. I know that's a long way around all that but that's the reason I haven't worried for a second that if this were to every happen that it would hurt our marriage in any way and why our sex life as always been great as well. Cuz neither of us puts our own enjoyment before the others and we both get enjoyment from the others enjoyment. It's the reason we've never really been into quickies cuz if she isn't in the mood and is just going along with it too help me get off I can't actually get off cuz what gets me off is her getting off. We probably don't have sex as often as many couples but when we do it's always great. But it's always the best when I can make her feel sexy and confident in herself and she sometimes lacks that and convinces herself she's just plain and most guys wouldn't look at her twice cuz she was a late bloomer to start with and then her ex husband would cheat on her and talk her down to keep her convinced she couldn't leave him cuz no one would want her and that has stuck with her even after 10 years with me. The only way I can see to fix that is to let her see and feel another man desire her and enjoying having her and knowing she was wanted that way and the confidence she would gain from that is way more important to me than being jealous. Sorry for such a long explanation but I think your husband would get exactly where I'm coming from and you seem to get it as well. From your comment I take that having sex with your bull might be good but what makes it great for you is knowing that your husband is enjoying watching it which goes with that saying that great sex is 25% what goes on between your legs and 75% what goes on between your ears.
 
Does he? Still adore her?

Because sometimes when I hear stories like this, I wonder if it's possible the man is just so broken and conditioned to believe that he is unworthy of being loved and admired back.

I am coming around to cuckold play for my husband, it was his request.. but it goes against my instinct and desire to humiliate or deny him. He does wish I would do this more, especially in the heat of the moment which I'm beginning to make more sense of. The only way I am remotely comfortable with it, however, is by reconnecting with him afterward, and reassuring him that I love him and still very much enjoy sex with him as well. And that even though this type of lifestyle was difficult for me to wrap my head around, I'm incredibly grateful that he gets such a thrill out of seeing me with other men. At first I was adamantly against the idea of it, but after finally taking the leap and getting that "high" from looking into my husbands eyes as I'm either sucking a bull or being fucked by one... That's a gift that only my husband has given me. And I feel closer to him because of it.
Great you get to show hubby you love him AND you get a great fucking by some black dick
 
No this is Manipulation and Abuse.

Reverse the roles and read it back, it’ll change your opinion.
I disagree, with one caveat... We haven't heard his input.

You list yourself as a stag, which means you're a cuckold who hates the title because you don't identify with what mainstream porn has attached to the term "cuckold". Stuff like humiliation, denial, chastity, sissy/bi/cross-dressing, etc. So to you, and maybe many others, it appears as abuse and manipulation.
To a cuckold who has an interest in those other branches of BDSM, it's not abuse or manipulation. Or, it is, but it has become a turn on, or part of the dynamic between husband and wife. There are plenty of couples on here who have those dynamics who still truly love each other.

But back to the point... if we could hear the husband's opinion, it might help shed some light on if he loves that she does that to him, or if he hates it deep down inside... or maybe both. A cuckold can feel jealousy, resentment, love and lust all at the same time. The love and lust are the ones that win out for successful cuckolds.
 
Well progressing to a new level. About 15 years ago I cut off penetration sex with hubby. Just not feeling it and we both agreed, him reluctantly. About 7 years ago I denied him touching my upset and nipples. I still enjoy his massages of my feet, legs, butt, back, arms and legs (no nipples). During morning massages in bed, on occasion I would touch his small penis if he requested it. Pathetic and only a sympathetic touch and hand jod. As of two months ago that has cessed. Massaging me in the morning spooning me he ask for me to touch him. I said NO and left the bed. Two weeks later the same situation occurred and I just left the bed without saying a thing. He continues to massage me with no requests. Guess he figures rejection is now too tough.
So, who gets to sexually satisfy you??
 
The thing is that there has to be something that holds a husband in to a 15 year sexless marriage. As for the woman she has it all. I am not a woman and I am no longer in a relationship sexually with a woman or man for that matter. This does give me a better chance to independently study the world of cuckolding without pressure. The word love is thrown around here like it has only one description and it doesn't. The question in any relationship is what kind of love you have for your husband and what kind he has for you?
 
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