some advice, cold feet

[mikeandlia]

Hi folks, figured I found the right place 2 ask for this kind of advice!
So, a little over a year ago, my wife and I decided we'd judgement free, do each other's fantasy. I got 2 go first, and I asked for anal sex, which we never did and it was granted. Then, my wife, as you might have guesses, said she wanted 2 be fucked by a black guy... I realized after, my request might have been a little tame... Anyway, a few months later, after a lot of talking, we create a dating profile on okcupid, and say we're a couple with this fantasy. She agreed I'd have 2 be there. I swear in less than 48 hours there's easily 40 messages. She picks her favorite and in just a couple days, we set up a no strings attached date at a hotel a city over, where this guy is from. Now I'm not actually in 2 watching so much, my reason for being there is 2 make sure she's safe. The guy is younger, 22, my wife 26, he seems a little immature in person, my wife doesn't care. We had ground rules in place beforehand, no openmouthed kissing, must wear condom, nothing rough... The guy was very polite I suppose, and my wife enjoyed it. I was bothered at first, but it was hot watching her so turned on... i should mention our sex is at least as good, just i'm not black. Afterwards, she thanks me and told me she thought I wouldn't go through with it. Our sex life improved a bit and she even offered anal every now and then. We barely mentioned the encounter after and she seems over it. Somewhere inbetween we stopped using birth control and were semi trying 2 get pregnant. A few months ago, she gets pregnant, we're happy. We start having lots of sex, I even find myself unable 2 keep up some days, but I'm thrilled. A couple weeks ago, she tells me that she was thinking about doing her fantasy properly, when i asked, she said it didn't really count because of the condom and her fantasy was actually 2 have sex the way we do, where i finish inside her... when I tell her that's cheating, she brings up all the anal we've had, how horny she's been and the one or two times I did't give her what she wanted. She said now that she's pregant, we don't have to worry once the guy is tested... obviously. I'm wondering if there aare any other guys with similar experiences... where it isn't the guy's kink, and it's this extreme... she wants 2 fuck a guy unprotected and let him come inside her. She tells me I don't have to be there... but that's a bluff... I don't want 2 be a jerk and forbid her... I really wasn't bothered by the way things happened that first time, but this request has bothered me quite a bit... is that fair? is there really a difference at this point? Any advice or opinions are wecome! Cheers

(Edit: when I said “cheating” I meant cheating our agreement, not infidelity.)

 

[WillandSusn]

My position wasn’t hidden... of course I’ll favor those taking my side, but I’ve welcomed any well thought out opinions and I discussed things with the wife even more as a result.
I’m glad u and I can talk about something else.

Given all the racial stuff over the past 10 years , not surprising white men think more about wives fucking black men and the wives doing it. White women are approached by men of color more and more in their everyday activities and many of the wives now say yes. Some have regular "friends" now in these activities. Gyms are very popular now and its not the gym equipment or the exercises.

 

[mikeandlia]

No "vigourous" sex. Ie banging away at her pussy. Especially. Doggie position.

Have u ever had any sex before with a real human? “Banging away at a pussy” in a fashion that is dangerous to a woman’s health at any point pregnant or not, is surely a bad thing. Within the context of sex that doesn’t involve violence or physical trauma, there is no risk to the baby, EXCEPT as I said before in the third trimester, near the end, which is only because it may trigger contractions, (and still not even as a result of the physical contact itself). Just like normal sex, if ANY woman (pregnant or not) is uncomfortable the obvious thing to do would be to stop. You do understand that, right? If she’s NOT in pain, it is safe to proceed, if she is uncomfortable at all, STOP.
If you are still having trouble, you should speak to a doctor or even a woman who has had sex before.
I am consulting people’s opinions here because of their feelings towards the actions of a specific sexual encounter/fantasy. I have not come here for medical advice as I have already done so by a professional and will continue to do so. That’s not to say that if someone brought up something valid, or something that I wasn’t aware of, I would not take heed or ask our dr.
I’m clearly not ignoring u, and I have talked with u on other points, I have no idea why you keep making references to something that is wrong other than you are genuinely uninformed on the issue. So once again here’s the statement I’m making, “a pregnant (1st and 2nd trimester) woman (without problematic risk factors) can have all the sex she is comfortable with having (and that includes large penises or any penis she is COMFORTABLE with having)”
And I’m also saying this, “any sex that is painful to a woman (that is, sex that she asks to STOP because it HURTS) should not happen, with ANYONE”

I hope this helps.

Here are some helpful links:

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/sex-in-pregnancy/

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-...ek/in-depth/sex-during-pregnancy/art-20045318

 

[mikeandlia]

just my opinion is she wanting to have sex with the same guy as before I would ask her to wait till the baby was born and then do it before going back on birth control like I said just my opinion

I think that guy was a bit of a let down for her. She’d probably want someone else if she decided that’s what she wanted. I think after the baby isn’t born her focus will be on the baby, she’s very excited for that. As I said other than fantasy, we haven’t much discussed actually doing it. The forum made me lots more comfortable talking about it though, so there’s that.

 

[mikeandlia]

Mike. Need to think in terms of. " In addition too ". And not so much. "Instead of ". Lifestyle is a very long street with twists and turns and pot holes now and then. Early on she should be enjoying lots of you and him. Later on , explorations may involve more with "him" and less with you but that is how it should be as she is more exposed to BBC.

I think when people say BBC it sounds more like they’re talking about a porn search keyword. She never dated a black guy and yes thinks they are hot. She also finds other guys hot that she’s never dated. It came up with that first convo we had. I doubt we’re in it for the long term and the way things seem now, not for the moment either. I even told her that about couples who regularly see other guys and she thought that’d be too much work. But then she’s got serious saying she’s didn’t want that... as if she’s thought I was suggesting it! I’m not going to push her to do something she’s doesn’t want. She’s been exposed quite a bit with porn and she’s not craving more. Maybe if the first experience was better, who knows. The relationship ur talking about sounds like one where the man gets off on the action as the woman does. It’s not as pleasingly for me to watch my wife as it is for me to have sex with her... so that’s not for me. I’ll ask the wife to be fair, but I bet she doesn’t either.

 

[mikeandlia]

Given all the racial stuff over the past 10 years , not surprising white men think more about wives fucking black men and the wives doing it. White women are approached by men of color more and more in their everyday activities and many of the wives now say yes. Some have regular "friends" now in these activities. Gyms are very popular now and its not the gym equipment or the exercises.

I think in the USA it’s apparent because of the taboo associated with it... I grew up around many interracial couples, and that includes non-white couples. It’s not strange for me. She grew up in a more tolerant (than the US) town, but there weren’t a lot of black guys. If anything it’s TV, because one of her biggest celeb crushes is a mixed (with black) race guy. I know of 3 individuals who’ve been in non monogamous relationships and none of them were interracial specifically. I’m not saying those people don’t exist, but i don’t think the “racial changes” in the last 10 years mean what you think they mean (that black guys are here to take all the white women... that’s just a new racist stereotype). I think someone with a different race partner (or black in the US) deserves to be with whoever she or he wants and not have someone disapprove of it... welcome to the 21st century

 

[zvega]

Have u ever had any sex before with a real human? “Banging away at a pussy” in a fashion that is dangerous to a woman’s health at any point pregnant or not, is surely a bad thing. Within the context of sex that doesn’t involve violence or physical trauma, there is no risk to the baby, EXCEPT as I said before in the third trimester, near the end, which is only because it may trigger contractions, (and still not even as a result of the physical contact itself). Just like normal sex, if ANY woman (pregnant or not) is uncomfortable the obvious thing to do would be to stop. You do understand that, right? If she’s NOT in pain, it is safe to proceed, if she is uncomfortable at all, STOP.
If you are still having trouble, you should speak to a doctor or even a woman who has had sex before.
I am consulting people’s opinions here because of their feelings towards the actions of a specific sexual encounter/fantasy. I have not come here for medical advice as I have already done so by a professional and will continue to do so. That’s not to say that if someone brought up something valid, or something that I wasn’t aware of, I would not take heed or ask our dr.
I’m clearly not ignoring u, and I have talked with u on other points, I have no idea why you keep making references to something that is wrong other than you are genuinely uninformed on the issue. So once again here’s the statement I’m making, “a pregnant (1st and 2nd trimester) woman (without problematic risk factors) can have all the sex she is comfortable with having (and that includes large penises or any penis she is COMFORTABLE with having)”
And I’m also saying this, “any sex that is painful to a woman (that is, sex that she asks to STOP because it HURTS) should not happen, with ANYONE”

I hope this helps.

Here are some helpful links:

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/sex-in-pregnancy/

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-...ek/in-depth/sex-during-pregnancy/art-20045318

I'd like to change the focus from Gynecology 101 back to your wife lol. Back to her desire for a black man to ejaculate in her vagina.

I'm thinking that she knows and has felt the power of a black man achieving his orgasm in her, while wearing a condom.

I think your wife wants to feel him raw inside her, to feel how much more powerful and passionate his orgasm will feel with the
higher octane of a black man fucking a white woman; fucking a pregnant white woman; with no barrier between his cock and your wife's wet cunt;
and exploding his sperm deep inside her.

just imho, of course

 

[mikeandlia]

I'd like to change the focus from Gynecology 101 back to your wife lol. Back to her desire for a black man to ejaculate in her vagina.

I'm thinking that she knows and has felt the power of a black man achieving his orgasm in her, while wearing a condom.

I think your wife wants to feel him raw inside her, to feel how much more powerful and passionate his orgasm will feel with the
higher octane of a black man fucking a white woman; fucking a pregnant white woman; with no barrier between his cock and your wife's wet cunt;
and exploding his sperm deep inside her.

just imho, of course

I made sure with her before posting this, but she doesn’t think, even in general, that a black guy is going 2 do anything better necessarily. The idea is, that he’s a black guy... period. I get that now... just like I get that I’m curious about sleeping with a black girl... even though I think will be harder 2 arrange, strangely enough. But I don’t think a black woman is going 2 have any special abilities that a white woman doesn’t have just because of skin colour. Sexuality is a very individual thing, and some people are turned on by things like skin colour and a person’s “abilities” are surely a combination of genetics and experience. There are guys with large penises whether they are black or white... there’s a very white cultural thing that makes a lot of guys restrain passion and even sexuality (think religion, class etc) that in my opinion is stupid. Maybe if I were a church-going guy from some “respectable” family I’d feel restrained in the bedroom? Thankfully I’m not. So for her at least the hotness factor comes from the guy’s appearance, i think much like for many guys a cheerleader is hot.
She has always been concerned about anyone coming inside her in the past, and she obviously got in 2 while we were doing it. I think it’s something she likes and logically she is going 2 like it with a guy who she thinks is hot who isn’t me.
Ur message was pretty graphic haha, when I read it 2 her she just wanted me 2 do it 2 her, and I did. The fantasy is there, the desire 2 actually do it, not so much anymore. MAYBE if there was a way 2 guarantee cleanliness and reassure our concerns she’d go for it, but I think she’s just very into sex right now. I’m not complaining.

 

[zvega]

I made sure with her before posting this, but she doesn’t think, even in general, that a black guy is going 2 do anything better necessarily. The idea is, that he’s a black guy... period. I get that now... just like I get that I’m curious about sleeping with a black girl... even though I think will be harder 2 arrange, strangely enough. But I don’t think a black woman is going 2 have any special abilities that a white woman doesn’t have just because of skin colour. Sexuality is a very individual thing, and some people are turned on by things like skin colour and a person’s “abilities” are surely a combination of genetics and experience. There are guys with large penises whether they are black or white... there’s a very white cultural thing that makes a lot of guys restrain passion and even sexuality (think religion, class etc) that in my opinion is stupid. Maybe if I were a church-going guy from some “respectable” family I’d feel restrained in the bedroom? Thankfully I’m not. So for her at least the hotness factor comes from the guy’s appearance, i think much like for many guys a cheerleader is hot.
She has always been concerned about anyone coming inside her in the past, and she obviously got in 2 while we were doing it. I think it’s something she likes and logically she is going 2 like it with a guy who she thinks is hot who isn’t me.
Ur message was pretty graphic haha, when I read it 2 her she just wanted me 2 do it 2 her, and I did. The fantasy is there, the desire 2 actually do it, not so much anymore. MAYBE if there was a way 2 guarantee cleanliness and reassure our concerns she’d go for it, but I think she’s just very into sex right now. I’m not complaining.

"Ur message was pretty graphic haha, when I read it 2 her she just wanted me 2 do it 2 her, and I did"

I was very happy to hold your jacket while you satisfied your wife's passion lol. To think my words may have helped... Glad to oblige

All the best to you and your wife and the little baby on the way.

 

[mikeandlia]

"Ur message was pretty graphic haha, when I read it 2 her she just wanted me 2 do it 2 her, and I did"

I was very happy to hold your jacket while you satisfied your wife's passion lol. To think my words may have helped... Glad to oblige

All the best to you and your wife and the little baby on the way.

Haha, I suppose some thanks are in order. Also thanks for your kind wishes.

 

[zecko]

Hey Mike!
My two cents: I´dont know how old you are, your wife is 26. So that is rather young. When becoming old
you will only regret the things you haven`t done, not the things you have done. That is my experience.
Maybe this will be the last time you have the chance to do your wives phantasie, so go for it.
And by the way, sex in a healthy pregnancy is good for everyone.
I guess, you have sex wiht your wife at the moment, so did she miscarried? You see!
Find a guy you can trust, who is clean and be happy.
Greetings

 

[mikeandlia]

Hey Mike!
My two cents: I´dont know how old you are, your wife is 26. So that is rather young. When becoming old
you will only regret the things you haven`t done, not the things you have done. That is my experience.
Maybe this will be the last time you have the chance to do your wives phantasie, so go for it.
And by the way, sex in a healthy pregnancy is good for everyone.
I guess, you have sex wiht your wife at the moment, so did she miscarried? You see!
Find a guy you can trust, who is clean and be happy.
Greetings

Haha, agreed! Stay tuned.

 

[Wantmixedkids]

Hi folks, figured I found the right place 2 ask for this kind of advice!
So, a little over a year ago, my wife and I decided we'd judgement free, do each other's fantasy. I got 2 go first, and I asked for anal sex, which we never did and it was granted. Then, my wife, as you might have guesses, said she wanted 2 be fucked by a black guy... I realized after, my request might have been a little tame... Anyway, a few months later, after a lot of talking, we create a dating profile on okcupid, and say we're a couple with this fantasy. She agreed I'd have 2 be there. I swear in less than 48 hours there's easily 40 messages. She picks her favorite and in just a couple days, we set up a no strings attached date at a hotel a city over, where this guy is from. Now I'm not actually in 2 watching so much, my reason for being there is 2 make sure she's safe. The guy is younger, 22, my wife 26, he seems a little immature in person, my wife doesn't care. We had ground rules in place beforehand, no openmouthed kissing, must wear condom, nothing rough... The guy was very polite I suppose, and my wife enjoyed it. I was bothered at first, but it was hot watching her so turned on... i should mention our sex is at least as good, just i'm not black. Afterwards, she thanks me and told me she thought I wouldn't go through with it. Our sex life improved a bit and she even offered anal every now and then. We barely mentioned the encounter after and she seems over it. Somewhere inbetween we stopped using birth control and were semi trying 2 get pregnant. A few months ago, she gets pregnant, we're happy. We start having lots of sex, I even find myself unable 2 keep up some days, but I'm thrilled. A couple weeks ago, she tells me that she was thinking about doing her fantasy properly, when i asked, she said it didn't really count because of the condom and her fantasy was actually 2 have sex the way we do, where i finish inside her... when I tell her that's cheating, she brings up all the anal we've had, how horny she's been and the one or two times I did't give her what she wanted. She said now that she's pregant, we don't have to worry once the guy is tested... obviously. I'm wondering if there aare any other guys with similar experiences... where it isn't the guy's kink, and it's this extreme... she wants 2 fuck a guy unprotected and let him come inside her. She tells me I don't have to be there... but that's a bluff... I don't want 2 be a jerk and forbid her... I really wasn't bothered by the way things happened that first time, but this request has bothered me quite a bit... is that fair? is there really a difference at this point? Any advice or opinions are wecome! Cheers

(Edit: when I said “cheating” I meant cheating our agreement, not infidelity.)

If you dont want her. Ill takr her. She sounds like she eants you to raise a black baby. You sir are now a trapped cuck and ur girl is bbc owned. For real. If u dont want her pregnant by a black guy then give her to me because thats the life ahead of u

 

[mikeandlia]

So I have some news... we had a big weekend. And then another...
We went through with her fantasy and then some. I can provide details, if folks are interested. Most importantly I got a lot of help making the decision and we are both very happy with everything. I’m definitely not worried about anything anymore. Thanks everyone

 

[mikeandlia]

So here’s the gist of the lead up... My wife made contact online, all by herself with another, older married lady. This lady’s husband is a black guy who apparently used to be what I can only describe as a bull. He “dated married (mostly white) women with the knowledge of their husbands” until he met his now wife and they lived happily ever after... until she met my wife. They’d been chatting for a few weeks and my wife told her about what we did before, and that we’d been maybe considering something again. The guy’s wife was never part of that sort of relationship but she’s essentially offered her husband to my wife in exchange for me... The wife is a black lady, mid 30s the husband maybe 40.
So the fun part of the story is, my wife’s friend was saying that her husband, who is completely faithful to her, still obviously had a thing for young, white women... I assumed porn. Somehow without either husband being consulted they proposed a “meeting”. My wife first told me about finding a guy just for her and only later about his wife. Apparently it went over easier with her husband... I found it very hot that my wife took charge like that, and I was very relaxed about everything.
There was a lot of discussion back and forth, and we agreed to all be tested before meeting. We got together maybe 2 weeks later at a hotel and chatted in the lounge for a couple hours. The guy told us about his past, we told him about our experience and I think we all hit it off.
We got a room and ended up staying the entire weekend... I was happy with how things went. My wife got to experience her “full” fantasy and I’ll admit that it was quite hot to watch it happen. I felt like I’d “won” when he came first and I allowed myself to finish shortly after, except I followed instructions when she said she wanted to see me come, and so I finished on her stomach. I was then a little miffed that he pretty much jumped right back on and continued within a few minutes, whereas it took me longer... that was very unexpected, I didn’t think think that kind of recovery was possible. I have to say, having a rival made me work much harder and I’d like to think he was thinking the same thing. His wife had a great time also, although she didn’t have a specific fantasy regarding me, she wanted to see him with another woman and I might have been a bonus. It was very exciting hearing the sounds of our wives competing and it definitely kept me on my game, it wasn’t a negative influence at all. It probably helped that he was onl slighter longer than me from what I could see, although my wife said he was a little bigger, he was not as rough as I am (she likes it rough, and he knew this) I think his thing was trying to be cool/smooth, then again maybe he was being extra gentle because he knew she was pregnant (he would not have known if we didn’t tell them). After the first night the guy and his wife went to shower, and my wife had to show me her pussy filled with cum (he got her twice by the end) I was turned on by her naughty excitement and we made out for quite a bit before they came out. We continued in the shower and I got to watch her watching herself squeeze it out... we fooled around but we didn’t go much further than that. The next day we actually talked all together for a bit and went out for late lunch. it wasn’t until that evening did we continue our romp. The second night I was able to finish twice, the first time, my wife wanted to watch me come on his wife’s ass and then after seeing it my wife asked the guy to fuck her the way I fucked his wife (lying flat from behind) and while I was recovering, I watched her come twice before he finished inside her again... this time I felt bested because she lay exhausted but quite content... he was busy getting himself ready while he played with her with his fingers and he did something that once again pushed me to do more... he disturbed her from laying, and by her hair pulled her to his not yet ready cock, which he put in her mouth... a part of me wanted to step in but my wife was obviously willing and enjoying it... I was determined to be ready to go again before his wife returned, but I’m not a machine... I did however take a page out of his book and got her to get on her knees and put my cock in her mouth, the thrill made all the difference and once I was able to go again I got a bit rough and she was really into it, not submissively but almost like she was angry with me (obviously playfully) it was my goal to fuck her hard in response to the guy’s move... I bent her over the bed and took her from behind again while holding an arm behind her back... I also told her that I was going to come inside her because I’d had enough of pulling out. Looking back I should have used that to suggest anal, although realistically while it was on the table we hadn’t explicitly planned or prepared for it... so perhaps it would have been a no go anyway. I worked hard and made sure she was making lots of noise. I focussed on her a lot more that time and really had a strong streak where I was killing it. I finished for the second time, inside and it was very grand. I was proud. However, not to be outdone my rival continued well after he came a second time but didn’t finish a third time. He was happy to stop and his comment made me feel a lot better. He told me, “you and ur wife are gonna ******* me” (even though I was barely able to stand at that point) I lay down and fell asleep without showering and that might have been where I got my edge on the last day, we had a late check out and it was clear we all wanted to go at it again. The wife though older than me, and not as petite as my wife was very good in bed, and while not my first choice for body type, was very, very sexy. I felt like I had learned enough about her physically that I could really go big for the last hurrah. I did however want to jump in the shower quickly before, and I came out to find the husband going down on my wife and his wife sucking him off... I wasn’t even sure what to do at that point, I wanted to go to my wife but I couldn’t leave his wife out... it felt rude. Instead I went to his wife and began playing with her pussy. Once I started going down on her for a minute or two, she was all mine again and it became essentially a cunnilingus showdown (at least in my head). We were still on the same bed and the proximity definitely made thing more intense. It occurred to me my skills might have been better because my wife seemed jealous of the time his wife was having... and my wife told him in a way she hadn’t spoken to him before to “fuck me, fuck me with your big fucking cock”. It was intense. Either she was finally more comfortable or she was jealous. The latter was true, although it was more of an in the moment competitive jealousy than just jealousy per se.
And fuck her he did, he went hard and she was loud... it was very distracting and I did get intimidated... but I held fast and kept doing my thing. I had his wife come hard from my tongue and hands while my wife was coming on his cock... he finished quite dramatically and lay back while my wife put his cock in her mouth while he chilled. I got his wife to come again and then she started begging for my cock. I’d successfully paced myself and I felt I could go forever as I watched my wife teasing his cock while he played with her pussy. We came a lot sooner than forever but not before leaving his wife content and finished... he and my wife didn’t get it going again and I was able to offer my cock to my wife, whose pussy was still very ... come in. I let the thrill of being the last man standing go to my head as I tried to be more amazing than I was. I was barely able to finish and my wife was relieved more than satisfied in that moment... everyone was tired and hungry at that point. I could only speak for myself... I was sore all over. We had lunch together and despite my raging rivalry we all seemed very friendly about everything and we left the door open for future adventures. I thought my wife was going to be mad when we left then, but she was gushing about how hot it was and how much I turned her on. I admitted how much I liked watching her and that I was trying hard to keep up with him. She must have been in her own world because she didn’t seem to recall it that way. She was excited for us to go home... to sleep firstly... and then to get me to punish her for being bad for letting another guy come inside her... and so the teasing began... she’s devious.

 

[WillandSusn]

So here’s the gist of the lead up... My wife made contact online, all by herself with another, older married lady. This lady’s husband is a black guy who apparently used to be what I can only describe as a bull. He “dated married (mostly white) women with the knowledge of their husbands” until he met his now wife and they lived happily ever after... until she met my wife. They’d been chatting for a few weeks and my wife told her about what we did before, and that we’d been maybe considering something again. The guy’s wife was never part of that sort of relationship but she’s essentially offered her husband to my wife in exchange for me... The wife is a black lady, mid 30s the husband maybe 40.
So the fun part of the story is, my wife’s friend was saying that her husband, who is completely faithful to her, still obviously had a thing for young, white women... I assumed porn. Somehow without either husband being consulted they proposed a “meeting”. My wife first told me about finding a guy just for her and only later about his wife. Apparently it went over easier with her husband... I found it very hot that my wife took charge like that, and I was very relaxed about everything.
There was a lot of discussion back and forth, and we agreed to all be tested before meeting. We got together maybe 2 weeks later at a hotel and chatted in the lounge for a couple hours. The guy told us about his past, we told him about our experience and I think we all hit it off.
We got a room and ended up staying the entire weekend... I was happy with how things went. My wife got to experience her “full” fantasy and I’ll admit that it was quite hot to watch it happen. I felt like I’d “won” when he came first and I allowed myself to finish shortly after, except I followed instructions when she said she wanted to see me come, and so I finished on her stomach. I was then a little miffed that he pretty much jumped right back on and continued within a few minutes, whereas it took me longer... that was very unexpected, I didn’t think think that kind of recovery was possible. I have to say, having a rival made me work much harder and I’d like to think he was thinking the same thing. His wife had a great time also, although she didn’t have a specific fantasy regarding me, she wanted to see him with another woman and I might have been a bonus. It was very exciting hearing the sounds of our wives competing and it definitely kept me on my game, it wasn’t a negative influence at all. It probably helped that he was onl slighter longer than me from what I could see, although my wife said he was a little bigger, he was not as rough as I am (she likes it rough, and he knew this) I think his thing was trying to be cool/smooth, then again maybe he was being extra gentle because he knew she was pregnant (he would not have known if we didn’t tell them). After the first night the guy and his wife went to shower, and my wife had to show me her pussy filled with cum (he got her twice by the end) I was turned on by her naughty excitement and we made out for quite a bit before they came out. We continued in the shower and I got to watch her watching herself squeeze it out... we fooled around but we didn’t go much further than that. The next day we actually talked all together for a bit and went out for late lunch. it wasn’t until that evening did we continue our romp. The second night I was able to finish twice, the first time, my wife wanted to watch me come on his wife’s ass and then after seeing it my wife asked the guy to fuck her the way I fucked his wife (lying flat from behind) and while I was recovering, I watched her come twice before he finished inside her again... this time I felt bested because she lay exhausted but quite content... he was busy getting himself ready while he played with her with his fingers and he did something that once again pushed me to do more... he disturbed her from laying, and by her hair pulled her to his not yet ready cock, which he put in her mouth... a part of me wanted to step in but my wife was obviously willing and enjoying it... I was determined to be ready to go again before his wife returned, but I’m not a machine... I did however take a page out of his book and got her to get on her knees and put my cock in her mouth, the thrill made all the difference and once I was able to go again I got a bit rough and she was really into it, not submissively but almost like she was angry with me (obviously playfully) it was my goal to fuck her hard in response to the guy’s move... I bent her over the bed and took her from behind again while holding an arm behind her back... I also told her that I was going to come inside her because I’d had enough of pulling out. Looking back I should have used that to suggest anal, although realistically while it was on the table we hadn’t explicitly planned or prepared for it... so perhaps it would have been a no go anyway. I worked hard and made sure she was making lots of noise. I focussed on her a lot more that time and really had a strong streak where I was killing it. I finished for the second time, inside and it was very grand. I was proud. However, not to be outdone my rival continued well after he came a second time but didn’t finish a third time. He was happy to stop and his comment made me feel a lot better. He told me, “you and ur wife are gonna ******* me” (even though I was barely able to stand at that point) I lay down and fell asleep without showering and that might have been where I got my edge on the last day, we had a late check out and it was clear we all wanted to go at it again. The wife though older than me, and not as petite as my wife was very good in bed, and while not my first choice for body type, was very, very sexy. I felt like I had learned enough about her physically that I could really go big for the last hurrah. I did however want to jump in the shower quickly before, and I came out to find the husband going down on my wife and his wife sucking him off... I wasn’t even sure what to do at that point, I wanted to go to my wife but I couldn’t leave his wife out... it felt rude. Instead I went to his wife and began playing with her pussy. Once I started going down on her for a minute or two, she was all mine again and it became essentially a cunnilingus showdown (at least in my head). We were still on the same bed and the proximity definitely made thing more intense. It occurred to me my skills might have been better because my wife seemed jealous of the time his wife was having... and my wife told him in a way she hadn’t spoken to him before to “fuck me, fuck me with your big fucking cock”. It was intense. Either she was finally more comfortable or she was jealous. The latter was true, although it was more of an in the moment competitive jealousy than just jealousy per se.
And fuck her he did, he went hard and she was loud... it was very distracting and I did get intimidated... but I held fast and kept doing my thing. I had his wife come hard from my tongue and hands while my wife was coming on his cock... he finished quite dramatically and lay back while my wife put his cock in her mouth while he chilled. I got his wife to come again and then she started begging for my cock. I’d successfully paced myself and I felt I could go forever as I watched my wife teasing his cock while he played with her pussy. We came a lot sooner than forever but not before leaving his wife content and finished... he and my wife didn’t get it going again and I was able to offer my cock to my wife, whose pussy was still very ... come in. I let the thrill of being the last man standing go to my head as I tried to be more amazing than I was. I was barely able to finish and my wife was relieved more than satisfied in that moment... everyone was tired and hungry at that point. I could only speak for myself... I was sore all over. We had lunch together and despite my raging rivalry we all seemed very friendly about everything and we left the door open for future adventures. I thought my wife was going to be mad when we left then, but she was gushing about how hot it was and how much I turned her on. I admitted how much I liked watching her and that I was trying hard to keep up with him. She must have been in her own world because she didn’t seem to recall it that way. She was excited for us to go home... to sleep firstly... and then to get me to punish her for being bad for letting another guy come inside her... and so the teasing began... she’s devious.

. Good work. Wife well on her way for more BBC.

 

[mikeandlia]

. Good work. Wife well on her way for more BBC.

Sure we’re open to it and we did meet them again for a repeat encounter, (only one night though) I see us probably getting together with them again in the future, but things have been crazy good between the wife and I. She loved me being so competitive, and she’s also upped her game with me. It was good for both of us, but it would have been different I think, if it was just a guy, for me at least (I mean that I know many get off on watching their wife alone). I think another woman gave her some perspective too. So I’m ready and willing once there’s another wife on the table... or bed

 

[WillandSusn]

Sure we’re open to it and we did meet them again for a repeat encounter, (only one night though) I see us probably getting together with them again in the future, but things have been crazy good between the wife and I. She loved me being so competitive, and she’s also upped her game with me. It was good for both of us, but it would have been different I think, if it was just a guy, for me at least (I mean that I know many get off on watching their wife alone). I think another woman gave her some perspective too. So I’m ready and willing once there’s another wife on the table... or bed

. Yes. Good that you have a black couple and you are enjoying a black woman as she enjoys a black man. A different perspective to this lifestyle. Not that unusal for black women to enjoy the white husbands. Some of the black wives are just as sexually dominate as the black men. Some are even more so. For some black couples that is their arrangement / agreement. He gets all the white pussy he wants but she plays too. Enjoy your future endeavors

 

[WillandSusn]

I think when people say BBC it sounds more like they’re talking about a porn search keyword. She never dated a black guy and yes thinks they are hot. She also finds other guys hot that she’s never dated. It came up with that first convo we had. I doubt we’re in it for the long term and the way things seem now, not for the moment either. I even told her that about couples who regularly see other guys and she thought that’d be too much work. But then she’s got serious saying she’s didn’t want that... as if she’s thought I was suggesting it! I’m not going to push her to do something she’s doesn’t want. She’s been exposed quite a bit with porn and she’s not craving more. Maybe if the first experience was better, who knows. The relationship ur talking about sounds like one where the man gets off on the action as the woman does. It’s not as pleasingly for me to watch my wife as it is for me to have sex with her... so that’s not for me. I’ll ask the wife to be fair, but I bet she doesn’t either.

. BBC is just a reference to large black cock that so many white women enjoy today. When you/she find something you enjoy you tend to keep doing it. Lots of white women today enjoy having sex with black men. Some white husbands enjoy watching their wives doing it usually because she orgasms often more than once. Some husbands are turned on by hearing the wives beg for more cock or listening as she wants the stud to cum inside her. She loses her inhibitions and her sexual desires are revealed.

 

[mikeandlia]

. BBC is just a reference to large black cock that so many white women enjoy today. When you/she find something you enjoy you tend to keep doing it. Lots of white women today enjoy having sex with black men. Some white husbands enjoy watching their wives doing it usually because she orgasms often more than once. Some husbands are turned on by hearing the wives beg for more cock or listening as she wants the stud to cum inside her. She loses her inhibitions and her sexual desires are revealed.

So I am familiar with the term of course. I was saying that referring to just a “bbc” makes me think people are chasing that element alone, focusing on that one aspect? When I talk about what she wanted she was referring to a “black guy” and she was referring to not having ever been with one and yeah she finds (some) of them hot, she does not go on about their dicks. Maybe that’s just her. I asked her about it - whether she’d prefer my dick on a black guy who fucks her or a black dick on me when I fuck her, and she picked the black guy with my dick... for the sake of a “perfect fantasy”. But now that she’s done it, she prefers me... lol, yeah she has to because she’s my wife. I told her my “perfect fantasy” would be two of her fucking me or two of me fucking her... I won

 

[mikeandlia]

Thanks again to everyone who helped out!