Convention of States

It is so simple really The Democratic Party could care lest about any minorities , their plan is to keep poorer less fortunate people completely relying on government hand outs, just enough to let them survive. I am not a Republican as such but I am a conservative independent and real conservatives want people to live the American dream.


Aww, it's so cute when you try to talk about things you don't understand.



Are you always this stupid or is today a special occasion?
 
It is so simple really The Democratic Party could care lest about any minorities , their plan is to keep poorer less fortunate people completely relying on government hand outs, just enough to let them survive.

Agreed. The difference is that conservatives believe in individual liberty; the dignity of the individual, respect for the individual.

Liberals only care about the collective; they only see the swarm, the masses. This is why it is so easy for liberals to denigrate individuals. The free thinking bug is a threat to the liberal hive and must be squashed, with malice.

I am a conservative independent and real conservatives want people to live the American dream.

Nowhere is liberal hate for individual liberty more apparent than when they attempt to drag down minorities (they claim to support) who want to share in the American dream. If liberals cannot control government handouts, they lose their political power.
 
Agreed. The difference is that conservatives believe in individual liberty; the dignity of the individual, respect for the individual.

Liberals only care about the collective; they only see the swarm, the masses. This is why it is so easy for liberals to denigrate individuals. The free thinking bug is a threat to the liberal hive and must be squashed, with malice.



Nowhere is liberal hate for individual liberty more apparent than when they attempt to drag down minorities (they claim to support) who want to share in the American dream. If liberals cannot control government handouts, they lose their political power.
The liberals have been and continue to be just like vultures who fly in circles until death arrives to a helpless victim, then they swarm in to pick their bones of all flesh.
 
Aww, it's so cute when you try to talk about things you don't understand.



Are you always this stupid or is today a special occasion?
Do you really think your words are bothering me, they do just a small portion because I feel sorry for those like yourself who are blind to what the democrat party has always been and continues to be ( only growing worse everyday ) in their one important mission to control the masses.
 

Whats everyone thoughts?
Is this a waste of time and money or is it a viable whole or partial solution?

Note, Trolls will be ignored. Civil discourse only.
College football today so will read it tomorrow. Don't know much about it but if it would result in term limits I would go door to door to raise support for it
 
The liberals have been and continue to be just like vultures who fly in circles until death arrives to a helpless victim, then they swarm in to pick their bones of all flesh.

first off…..we are so far off topic it isn't funny.....but then listening to you speak is
you really are one of the dumbest people I have ever heard speak.....who do you think gave you unemployment ...health care...social security..medicare….and a lot of other perks you are probably getting...….. while biting the hand that feeds you!

But hell don't let you stupidity get in the way of your ignorance


some of your party in action right now

Senators Push for Vote on Secure Act Retirement Bill
GOP senators pressed Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell for “immediate Senate consideration” of the bill.

Republican senators are urging Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to bring the Setting Every Community Up for Retirement Enhancement (Secure) Act up for an immediate vote.

In a Tuesday letter to McConnell, Sen. Tim Scott, R-S.C., pressed for immediate Senate consideration of the bipartisan bill, which was passed the House by a 417-3 vote on May 23.

Scott was joined by Sens. Susan Collins, R-Maine; Joni Ernst, R-Iowa; Cory Gardner, R-Colo.; Rob Portman, R-Ohio; Martha McSally, R-Ariz.; and Thom Tillis, R-N.C.

The Secure Act “will make significant strides in fixing the nation’s retirement crisis and helping workers of all ages invest and save for their futures,” the senators wrote.

The senators added in their letter that the bill “would expand access to retirement plans for millions of Americans, allow older workers and retirees to contribute more to their retirement accounts, increase 401(k) coverage to part-time employees, prevent as many as 4 million people in private-sector pension plans from losing future benefits, protect 1,400 religiously affiliated organizations whose access to their defined contribution retirement plans is in jeopardy.”





DEMOCRATIC ACCOMPLISHMENTS: HISTORICAL HIGHLIGHTS

• The Democratic Party has a long and cherished history of trying to do the most good for the greatest number of people.
• Social Security
• Medicare, Medicaid, Healthcare Reform, Food Safety
• New Deal, Great Society, Peace Corp, Vista, Job Corp
• Civil Rights, Women’s Right to Vote, Equal Rights, The Voting Rights Act, Equal Pay Act, Motor Voter
• Consumer Protection, FDIC, Banking and Wall Street Regulations, SEC, Federal Reserve System, Anti-trust Legislation
• Funding for Science, Medical and Engineering Research, Space Exploration, NSF, NIH
• Support for Public Education, Head Start, School Lunch and Breakfast Programs
• NLRB, 8 hr. Work Day/40 hr. Work Week, Overtime, Unemployment
• Protection for the Environment, Increased Numbers and Support of National Parks and Wilderness Areas, Endangered Species Act, FEMA
• Veterans’ Benefits, GI Bill
• UN, NATO, Marshall Plan
• Vehicles Safety Requirements, Reduced Emissions, and Fuel Economy Standards (CAFE)
• TVA, Federal Loan Program, PBS, NPR, the Internet
• Economic Growth (Democratic Presidents: Roosevelt through Obama)





A Year After the Middle Class Tax Cut, the Rich Are Winning
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-tax-plan-consequences
The vast majority of Americans get some tax cut, at least at first. Just one in 20 families face a higher tax burden this year because of the law, the left-leaning Tax Policy Center estimates, including 7.3 percent of middle-income groups. The benefits of the tax law are spread pretty evenly in the next few years.

The Cost To Our Economy From Republican Obstruction And ...
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Sep 23, 2014 · So instead of looking at what has been blocked in the House, which would be literally everything Democrats and up to 49 percent of Republicans think would help the economy, we should look at what has passed. What has passed is a record of economic sabotage. Republicans claim there are more 300 bills passed by the House that are held up in the Senate.

Republicans Have Passed 0 Jobs Bills During Their First ...
https://www.politicususa.com/2015/05/23/republicans-passed-0-jobs-bills-138-days...
In their first 138 days in control of Congress, Mitch McConnell and John Boehner have passed zero jobs bill. Instead, Republicans passed budgets that would give big tax breaks to millionaires and ...



just helping out America?....or taking care of Big Biz!
Bills Introduced by Republicans While We Were Distracted by the ‘Russian Spy Drama’

Legislation advanced by the GOP included bills to terminate the EPA, repeal the Affordable Care Act, defund Planned Parenthood, and criminalize certain types of abortion.

Legislation introduced by Republicans during President Trump's first two months in office included bills to: terminate the Environmental Protection Agency; redistribute federal school funding via voucher programs; terminate the Dept. of Education; repeal a wildlife protection rule; repeal the Affordable Care Act; defund Planned Parenthood; establish a national right-to-work law; strip federal funds from sanctuary cities; criminalize abortion; and place new sanctions on Iran.

The Republican-led Congress is wasting no time forsing through the most horrendous bills seen in decades while America’s eyes are on Russia.

With both houses of Congress solidly under Republican control, there’s little in the way to stop House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wisconsin) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) from sending bills to President Trump’s desk that embody the most dangerous aspects of radical right-wing ideology.

 
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Agreed. The difference is that conservatives believe in individual liberty; the dignity of the individual, respect for the individual.
Liberals only care about the collective; they only see the swarm, the masses. This is why it is so easy for liberals to denigrate individuals. The free thinking bug is a threat to the liberal hive and must be squashed, with malice.
Are you talking economically, here, or politically? And do you even know the difference?
A smooth running capitalistic system brings everyone along slowly with various levels of opportunities, most of which are technology these days. However, when one party begins thinking in terms of "power", things start getting out of whack, and the true intention of capitalism is lost. No doubt, Democrats use to earn the entitlements war with their "free stuff" as many Rightards like to refer. However, for the past 40 years, ever since the great "walks on water" Reagan came along with his Trickle Down bullshit, Democrats have simply tried to offset this stupid idea of giving the wealthiest Americans tax cuts after tax cuts, starving the economy of revenue, and creating uncontrollable DEBT with the idea that "tax cuts pay for themselves" because employers and corporations will create jobs ... more Rightard bullshit. Results, a diminishing middleclass, an increasing poorer class, and a huge, ever growing margin between the richest and the poorest in this country.
Republicans have almost 4 decades of documented proof that Supply Side Economics was purposely implemented with the intent of providing more wealth to the upper 1%ers. Of course, if you fall in that $half million or up group of citizens, you'll obviously deny it.
 
Just a thought prompted by observation - seems Dems think whoever posts the most propaganda wins.


that's because we are able to put a whole thought process down on paper....where as the right seems to be stuck on one or two lines...and usually those are WRONG.....even the ones that do write more than 2 sentences....have yet to be right on anything...except they are from the right...and that definitely doesn't make them right
 
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that's because we are able to put a whole thought process down on paper....where as the right seems to be stuck on one or two lines...and usually those are WRONG.....even the ones that do write more than 2 sentences....have yet to be right on anything...except they are from the right...and that definitely doesn't make them right


there has to be some of the dumbest fucking republicans I have ever met right on here...…...I do things every weekend with a bunch of republicans....on occasion they will make stupid comment......but are ****** to listen to the facts..or leave...…...the ones on here....flat out ignore the facts ...even when posted more than once....and only pick up on the insults.....so logic says ...you want your attention....insult you and throw in a couple facts......all your attention span can handle
 
Just a thought prompted by observation - seems Dems think whoever posts the most propaganda wins.
The attitude that we are stupid or evil just because we don't agree with people and events is ignorant beyond compare. The whole view of the America we live in today is so warped and become so faithless in denying the very existence of a supreme creator, that we as a country have drawn so close to the world ( existence against God ) that our defense against Satan is weakening to the point of no return. We are in a battle of good vs evil every single day ! We are told in the word of God that we can only follow one master because sinful mankind will hate one and love the other. All we have to direct us to realizing which master they follow is the WORKS that they do, God says you will know them by their works, whether they are good or whether they are evil. One thing for example among countless acts that liberals believe in is the murders of unborn children, not every person agrees I realize, but as a whole they do. That act in itself shows a Work of pure Evil.
 
College football today so will read it tomorrow. Don't know much about it but if it would result in term limits I would go door to door to raise support for it
term limits never happen....they have to vote on it....and they are not going to ******* the golden goose.....the only way your vote counts...…..donate about a hundred grand to several
 
there has to be some of the dumbest fucking republicans I have ever met right on here...…...I do things every weekend with a bunch of republicans....on occasion they will make stupid comment......but are ****** to listen to the facts..or leave...…...the ones on here....flat out ignore the facts ...even when posted more than once....and only pick up on the insults.....so logic says ...you want your attention....insult you and throw in a couple facts......all your attention span can handle


what hottobe…..you must be saying the shoe must fit then huh
 
Are you talking economically, here, or politically? And do you even know the difference?
A smooth running capitalistic system brings everyone along slowly with various levels of opportunities, most of which are technology these days. However, when one party begins thinking in terms of "power", things start getting out of whack, and the true intention of capitalism is lost. No doubt, Democrats use to earn the entitlements war with their "free stuff" as many Rightards like to refer. However, for the past 40 years, ever since the great "walks on water" Reagan came along with his Trickle Down bullshit, Democrats have simply tried to offset this stupid idea of giving the wealthiest Americans tax cuts after tax cuts, starving the economy of revenue, and creating uncontrollable DEBT with the idea that "tax cuts pay for themselves" because employers and corporations will create jobs ... more Rightard bullshit. Results, a diminishing middleclass, an increasing poorer class, and a huge, ever growing margin between the richest and the poorest in this country.
Republicans have almost 4 decades of documented proof that Supply Side Economics was purposely implemented with the intent of providing more wealth to the upper 1%ers. Of course, if you fall in that $half million or up group of citizens, you'll obviously deny it.

Your "Trickle down" BS don't cut it anymore Mac - you know why? because the Democrats have done NOTHING to change it the past 35 years. They love it just as much so get off your fucking trickle down bullshit - it's all you got.

Surly you have something to say about the Convention of states?? They talk a good talk and a lot of what you have mentioned you want to see happen. Is it viable or hype?
 
Never happen and here is why...no one going to ******* the golden goose....and the voter to dumb to realize they CAN make a change....but they don't....they listen to the speeches of their rep....oh he is doing such a good job...it is all those other ones....and nothing changes


Here's how rich every US senator is

The halls of Congress are crowded with millionaires
Nobody goes into the public sector to make a fortune, yet Capitol Hill is crowded with millionaires. About half of all U.S. senators are estimated to have a net worth of at least a million dollars. Meanwhile, the typical American household is worth about $109,000.

A well-heeled legislative branch is not a new phenomenon. In the first few years of American independence, government officials, who were generally well-off to begin with, were not paid for their public service.

Today, U.S. senators are paid a salary of $174,000 per year -- more than triple the average wage across all American workers of $51,960 -- and higher than the median earnings of even the highest-paying jobs in America. Senate majority and minority leaders make even more -- $193,400 annually. Lawmakers' salaries do not include benefits like staff and travel allowances, which average more than $3 million per senator.

24/7 Wall St. reviewed the estimated net worth of U.S. senators from Roll Call, a Capitol Hill news outlet, to identify how much each state’s senators are worth. Net worth figures are rounded estimates derived from financial disclosure forms filed in 2018 and are not necessarily comprehensive or exact.

While being wealthy is not a precondition to running for national office, it certainly does not hurt. Campaigning comes with a number of practical burdens related to time and money that working-class Americans have more trouble shouldering than wealthier ones. Wealthy Americans are also more likely to be well connected, acquainted with powerful business leaders and other affluent individuals -- and those connections can prove critical for campaign fundraising.

Exactly how the wealthiest senators amassed their fortune varies. Many launched their political careers after a lucrative stint in the private sector. Others married into wealthy families. And some senators are not wealthy at all, and Roll Call estimates that their liabilities outweigh their assets.

Small personal fortunes are not limited to the legislative branch of the U.S. government. Many U.S. presidents have also had net worths in the million and even billion dollar range.


The net worth of every U.S. president, from Washington to Trump
 
Thank you Nanci Whiteboy, you have an understanding that we are a constitutional republic, not a democracy. Zwing seems to be a nut. To the original thread. I do think the states need to start taking action against the federal government and take their power back. The original way this country was constructed the power was with the states. Now the states rely on money from the feds to survive. The funny thing is the states send the money to the feds, then wait for a small amount of it back. States need to simply start supporting themselves. Keep the majority of their money and take care of their own state and people first. If I were governor of a state, day #1 in office I would cease a federal tax on gasoline sales. This money would no longer to go the feds, I would split the difference and give my state residents a break and send a few cents into out state treasury. Many other options are available, such as taxes for education, roads, environment...
 
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