Changes in Marriages and Relationships

rocuck said:
It seems to me that cuckolding is becoming much more common and largely mainstream. It also seems to me that this is associated with black men in their natural dominant role most all of the time. This raises questions as to what is going on and what all of it means. I thought it would be interesting to make a couple of observations and see what others think. These are subjects discussed in this forum in one way or another multiple times so they must be on many minds.

White boys are becoming more feminine and submissive. In my opinion this is pretty much across the board. In my opinion they are becoming physically smaller and less virile. The fantasy of being dominated seems to be getting replaced with the reality of chastity and a descent out of traditional manhood. Most of the comments seem to support the fact that white boys seem to want the humiliation of being beta males. Many more want to become sissies or bottoms and to be feminized. It seems to me that this is no longer a fetish or fantasy. It is likely a normal and probably permanent change of white boys. Since all relationships are give and take what is it that white boys give and what do they take? They give away masculinity, dominance, and pride. In return they get security and guidance. This is the security that they are not expected to perform in a sexual way for women. In the ideal situation they have decisions made for them. They become secondary to the dominant men as well as women. The mere fact that so many white boys embrace this fantasy sort of suggests it is a natural change of things. The question I have is if the future for white boys is marriage and cuckolding or perhaps a total replacement by black men. Also it seems to me that sex for white boys should not, and will not, include relationships with women in that way. They are evolving away from that either by choice or not. Is the future one of chastity and almost a eunuch type existence? Or is the future one of becoming a sissy or bottom or trans? Or both? I guess the question boils down to what does everyone think is the real world future for white boys both sexually and non- sexually? The second part is what does everyone think about the idea that white boys are actually evolving away from masculinity and more towards femininity or something other than a traditional man?

The second issue is the status of modern marriages. This also has been discussed multiple times in many ways. First of all many people talk about "cheating". In my opinion there is a natural attraction between black men and white women. In that sense a woman married to a white boy should have every right to date and have sex with black men. I just do not think it should be considered cheating. It seems to me that it is natural and beautiful. The fact that more and more women are embracing this sexual upgrade sort of supports the inevitability of it all. However, many may be reluctant because they do not want to "cheat". The question here is what is better? Would a society that changes so that black men are the husbands and white boys serve be better? Or would a society be better with white boys as the married husband but in a fully cuckolded marriage? Also what changes in society could give everyone what they need and want? For black men that would be unfettered access to white women and a general acceptance that a marriage to a white boy perhaps does not need to be honored in the traditional sense. This also implies the black man ascending in the work place and in non-sexual roles. Sexual dominance in fantasy followed by sexual dominance in porn followed by sexual dominance in mainstream media followed by sexual dominance in the real world followed by dominance in the work place and society. For women it is the freedom to become submissive to black men but dominant, and non-sexual, with white boys. Married or not. For white boys it is a situation where they can serve and accept guidance. Where it is generally accepted that their role is to serve and facilitate and to become "less" so that the black man can become "more". This also raises the question as to what is a healthy sexual release for white boys since it cannot be with women in the traditional sense?

This post is a bit long and i apologize if it is rambling. These are meant to be serious questions and issues and I thought it would be interesting to get the thoughts of some of the people on this site. Thank you to all who respond, whether or not you agree with some of the general points made.
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i would have served any roll my wife wanted. i'm the Alpha in the real world & have been for 40+ years. i needed a break.
 
rocuck said:
It seems to me that cuckolding is becoming much more common and largely mainstream. It also seems to me that this is associated with black men in their natural dominant role most all of the time. This raises questions as to what is going on and what all of it means. I thought it would be interesting to make a couple of observations and see what others think. These are subjects discussed in this forum in one way or another multiple times so they must be on many minds.

White boys are becoming more feminine and submissive. In my opinion this is pretty much across the board. In my opinion they are becoming physically smaller and less virile. The fantasy of being dominated seems to be getting replaced with the reality of chastity and a descent out of traditional manhood. Most of the comments seem to support the fact that white boys seem to want the humiliation of being beta males. Many more want to become sissies or bottoms and to be feminized. It seems to me that this is no longer a fetish or fantasy. It is likely a normal and probably permanent change of white boys. Since all relationships are give and take what is it that white boys give and what do they take? They give away masculinity, dominance, and pride. In return they get security and guidance. This is the security that they are not expected to perform in a sexual way for women. In the ideal situation they have decisions made for them. They become secondary to the dominant men as well as women. The mere fact that so many white boys embrace this fantasy sort of suggests it is a natural change of things. The question I have is if the future for white boys is marriage and cuckolding or perhaps a total replacement by black men. Also it seems to me that sex for white boys should not, and will not, include relationships with women in that way. They are evolving away from that either by choice or not. Is the future one of chastity and almost a eunuch type existence? Or is the future one of becoming a sissy or bottom or trans? Or both? I guess the question boils down to what does everyone think is the real world future for white boys both sexually and non- sexually? The second part is what does everyone think about the idea that white boys are actually evolving away from masculinity and more towards femininity or something other than a traditional man?

The second issue is the status of modern marriages. This also has been discussed multiple times in many ways. First of all many people talk about "cheating". In my opinion there is a natural attraction between black men and white women. In that sense a woman married to a white boy should have every right to date and have sex with black men. I just do not think it should be considered cheating. It seems to me that it is natural and beautiful. The fact that more and more women are embracing this sexual upgrade sort of supports the inevitability of it all. However, many may be reluctant because they do not want to "cheat". The question here is what is better? Would a society that changes so that black men are the husbands and white boys serve be better? Or would a society be better with white boys as the married husband but in a fully cuckolded marriage? Also what changes in society could give everyone what they need and want? For black men that would be unfettered access to white women and a general acceptance that a marriage to a white boy perhaps does not need to be honored in the traditional sense. This also implies the black man ascending in the work place and in non-sexual roles. Sexual dominance in fantasy followed by sexual dominance in porn followed by sexual dominance in mainstream media followed by sexual dominance in the real world followed by dominance in the work place and society. For women it is the freedom to become submissive to black men but dominant, and non-sexual, with white boys. Married or not. For white boys it is a situation where they can serve and accept guidance. Where it is generally accepted that their role is to serve and facilitate and to become "less" so that the black man can become "more". This also raises the question as to what is a healthy sexual release for white boys since it cannot be with women in the traditional sense?

This post is a bit long and i apologize if it is rambling. These are meant to be serious questions and issues and I thought it would be interesting to get the thoughts of some of the people on this site. Thank you to all who respond, whether or not you agree with some of the general points made.
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Your astute observations mirror my own in virtually every way. I have been experiencing my own cuckold lifestyle evolution for most of my adult life.

It began innocently enough in high school when I usually deferred decision making to whatever girlfriend I happened to be dating at the time. When it came to sex, I was never the initiator which often frustrated my girlfriends. Because my penis size was unimpressive, I lacked the confidence to try seducing my girlfriends. Over time, they would get bored and move on to the studs with bigger cocks who had reputations as “ladies men” . My masculine self confidence continued to diminish each time I was dumped.

During high school and college these studs were usually white athletes. Later in life, more and more women focused their attention on the black men.

Birds of a feather flock together as the saying goes. I began to socialize and ******* with a few other white buddies in college who had similar emasculating experiences with their own girlfriends. A few too many drinks, Hustler and Playboy magazines and maybe a porn movie later caused our respective “guards” to be lowered. Circle jerks soon led to group experimentation with BJ’s and anal sex. My inner submissive caused me to gravitate to being the pleaser/catcher for my 5 friends who were more comfortable being the giver/pitcher. I discovered my inner sissy and my self confidence soared as I knew that I was skillful at pleasing other college males in complete secrecy.

Dating women and marrying women after my college days was expected in society but I never felt comfortable trying to sexually satisfy my two wives. They dumped me for much more masculine men and my self confidence with women fell further.

I fessed up to my third wife before marriage. I told her that I was bisexual (mostly gay) and preferred that she find her sexual partners outside of our marriage. She had already experienced black men so she was very willing to become a black exclusive hotwife and turn me into her strap-on sissy bitch.

We have been happily married in the lifestyle for 10 years now.
 
dickhurtz472 said:
Avrei servito qualsiasi rotolo volesse mia moglie. Sono l'alfa nel mondo reale e lo sono stato per 40+ anni. Avevo bisogno di una pausa.
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Le tue osservazioni sono certamente sensate e i tuoi dubbi assolutamente ragionevoli: ma tieni presente che ciò che è mainstream può cambiare così come cambiano i venti e questo è anche molto condizionato dagli eventi politici, sia interni agli stati che internazionali. Questo rende spesso estremamente difficile prevedere il futuro.
 
rocuck said:
It seems to me that cuckolding is becoming much more common and largely mainstream. It also seems to me that this is associated with black men in their natural dominant role most all of the time. This raises questions as to what is going on and what all of it means. I thought it would be interesting to make a couple of observations and see what others think. These are subjects discussed in this forum in one way or another multiple times so they must be on many minds.

White boys are becoming more feminine and submissive. In my opinion this is pretty much across the board. In my opinion they are becoming physically smaller and less virile. The fantasy of being dominated seems to be getting replaced with the reality of chastity and a descent out of traditional manhood. Most of the comments seem to support the fact that white boys seem to want the humiliation of being beta males. Many more want to become sissies or bottoms and to be feminized. It seems to me that this is no longer a fetish or fantasy. It is likely a normal and probably permanent change of white boys. Since all relationships are give and take what is it that white boys give and what do they take? They give away masculinity, dominance, and pride. In return they get security and guidance. This is the security that they are not expected to perform in a sexual way for women. In the ideal situation they have decisions made for them. They become secondary to the dominant men as well as women. The mere fact that so many white boys embrace this fantasy sort of suggests it is a natural change of things. The question I have is if the future for white boys is marriage and cuckolding or perhaps a total replacement by black men. Also it seems to me that sex for white boys should not, and will not, include relationships with women in that way. They are evolving away from that either by choice or not. Is the future one of chastity and almost a eunuch type existence? Or is the future one of becoming a sissy or bottom or trans? Or both? I guess the question boils down to what does everyone think is the real world future for white boys both sexually and non- sexually? The second part is what does everyone think about the idea that white boys are actually evolving away from masculinity and more towards femininity or something other than a traditional man?

The second issue is the status of modern marriages. This also has been discussed multiple times in many ways. First of all many people talk about "cheating". In my opinion there is a natural attraction between black men and white women. In that sense a woman married to a white boy should have every right to date and have sex with black men. I just do not think it should be considered cheating. It seems to me that it is natural and beautiful. The fact that more and more women are embracing this sexual upgrade sort of supports the inevitability of it all. However, many may be reluctant because they do not want to "cheat". The question here is what is better? Would a society that changes so that black men are the husbands and white boys serve be better? Or would a society be better with white boys as the married husband but in a fully cuckolded marriage? Also what changes in society could give everyone what they need and want? For black men that would be unfettered access to white women and a general acceptance that a marriage to a white boy perhaps does not need to be honored in the traditional sense. This also implies the black man ascending in the work place and in non-sexual roles. Sexual dominance in fantasy followed by sexual dominance in porn followed by sexual dominance in mainstream media followed by sexual dominance in the real world followed by dominance in the work place and society. For women it is the freedom to become submissive to black men but dominant, and non-sexual, with white boys. Married or not. For white boys it is a situation where they can serve and accept guidance. Where it is generally accepted that their role is to serve and facilitate and to become "less" so that the black man can become "more". This also raises the question as to what is a healthy sexual release for white boys since it cannot be with women in the traditional sense?

This post is a bit long and i apologize if it is rambling. These are meant to be serious questions and issues and I thought it would be interesting to get the thoughts of some of the people on this site. Thank you to all who respond, whether or not you agree with some of the general points made.
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I think, "the universe 25" experiment on mice in the 70s predicted this. Or similar. Its worth looking into. I may be wrong, I think that the feminization of men this stage in the experiment it what happens every single time the do the experiment.

It is noticeable though, i think porn could really be a big contributing factor.. it is for me! Lol.
 
Dan&Katie said:
I think, "the universe 25" experiment on mice in the 70s predicted this. Or similar. Its worth looking into. I may be wrong, I think that the feminization of men this stage in the experiment it what happens every single time the do the experiment.

It is noticeable though, i think porn could really be a big contributing factor.. it is for me! Lol.
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Once a much more masculine, very handsome, better hung black man seduced my wife, my role in our relationship changed forever. He became the alpha dog who cast a bareback BBC craving spell on my sexually insatiable wife.

Evolving into a feminized submissive sissy for both of them became a natural evolution as the beta husband.
 
In the real world, most black men are often treated, and looked at as a threat,to the structure of society. I can see the appreciation 4 our physical prowess of course, but that's all that is ,I haven't met couples that would do this and I'm in Florida I have been attempting 2 locate someone that's local as 2 where I live, but the stigma that comes with it is heavy
 
I started this thread a few months ago. I appreciate all of the responses. There seems to be a lot of different opinions. In my opinion the ideal relationship is black man and white woman. PERIOD. I understand the desire of some white boys to use this as a gateway to them having sex. But I have to wonder if the women are doing it out of pity or some old fashioned sense of duty. That just seems wrong to me on many levels. I have seen some surveys that support the idea that a great majority of women prefer black men. I read somewhere that male hormone levels are decreasing in white boys. I do not think there can be any argument that black men are becoming more alpha and white boys are becoming more beta, sissies or more. I personally think it is safe to assume that black men are superior to white boys and women prefer black men. I know there are exceptions to every rule but I am talking about the general trend in the majority. Having said all of this I wonder if all of us would be better off with white women marrying black men only. Or would we be better off with white boys getting married in a "special" relationship where they work, support and encourage but do not have sex with the wife. That would be left to black men.

I would appreciate opinions regarding three things.
1. Do the people on this site agree with the general idea of black male superiority? Does anyone know about other scientific studies or surveys like I quoted that support this idea or not?
2. Do the people on this site think it would be better to have marriages with black men only? Or marriages that feature advanced cuckolding? Or something else?
3. What does everybody think about feminization of white boys? In my opinion this is less about feminizing than it is about making the white boy less competitive, less masculine. More of a boy than a man. I have a hunch that white boys have a natural urge to submit to black men. It is a source of comfort to not have to compete and to get guidance from black men (and women for that matter). It seems to me that emasculation, feminization, becoming limp, and all that comes with it really speeds up what seems to me to be natural changes in relationships.

I appreciate and respect all opinions about this. Even ones that disagree with my ideas. I thought it would be interesting to see if there is general agreement regarding at least some of this. Thanks to all.
 
MaineSailor207 said:
Once a much more masculine, very handsome, better hung black man seduced my wife, my role in our relationship changed forever. He became the alpha dog who cast a bareback BBC craving spell on my sexually insatiable wife.

Evolving into a feminized submissive sissy for both of them became a natural evolution as the beta husband.
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This is correct, it took a few goes and it's mostly been hung, military men. Katie loves their self discipline and immaculate cleanliness and order. Also she refers to them as men who have passed the masculinity test. Selected elite soldiers. Also a very high ranking officer, very high! ( I can't say more than that as don't know want to make it easier to guess). He is currently providing all her cock, she is wild with him sucking his big fingers. Throwing back her hips to meet his thrusts. He treats her like a little princess and is gently stretching her pussy with his big cock and now placing fingers in with his cock!
She is noticeably less gripping and loses traction on my dick. I have only fucked her once recently, last time was 11 months prior!

I am actually embarrassed and shy to attempt! She has been asking for it! She wants me and her drive is higher than ever! I think it is her age.
I'm not too small but I can't compete with the 3 hung bulls / lovers she has.

She loves our sex and how close it makes us, she does mind if my dick is slopping around because she is bigger now and I don't get as hard. So, as much as I want to fuck her. I'm to embarrassed too because I know there will be compensation in her head and I'm going to feel I'm useless especially if I can't stay hard. So chastity is a way of avoiding embarrassing sex but being a sissy, which j have, and she sees it, she helps me but its all playing into her lovers hands.
So what was roleplay and me being a very masculine decent fuck, has made me into a shy sissy! Getting so well humiliated as a cuck, a real cuckold! It's that intense that iv never seen or met he Newest, favourite lover. Not seen pics or videos of then fucking only his big cock ,(is very masculine and veiny, thick, huge balls! Enormous). No verbal humiliation is needed. It's is being done silently.
So careful what you wish for lol.
 
Hiddenfreek17 said:
In the real world, most black men are often treated, and looked at as a threat,to the structure of society. I can see the appreciation 4 our physical prowess of course, but that's all that is ,I haven't met couples that would do this and I'm in Florida I have been attempting 2 locate someone that's local as 2 where I live, but the stigma that comes with it is heavy
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@Hiddenfreak1 what is it you seek? Do you feel white couples want to submit fully but are holding back????
 
rocuck said:
I started this thread a few months ago. I appreciate all of the responses. There seems to be a lot of different opinions. In my opinion the ideal relationship is black man and white woman. PERIOD. I understand the desire of some white boys to use this as a gateway to them having sex. But I have to wonder if the women are doing it out of pity or some old fashioned sense of duty. That just seems wrong to me on many levels. I have seen some surveys that support the idea that a great majority of women prefer black men. I read somewhere that male hormone levels are decreasing in white boys. I do not think there can be any argument that black men are becoming more alpha and white boys are becoming more beta, sissies or more. I personally think it is safe to assume that black men are superior to white boys and women prefer black men. I know there are exceptions to every rule but I am talking about the general trend in the majority. Having said all of this I wonder if all of us would be better off with white women marrying black men only. Or would we be better off with white boys getting married in a "special" relationship where they work, support and encourage but do not have sex with the wife. That would be left to black men.

I would appreciate opinions regarding three things.
1. Do the people on this site agree with the general idea of black male superiority? Does anyone know about other scientific studies or surveys like I quoted that support this idea or not?
2. Do the people on this site think it would be better to have marriages with black men only? Or marriages that feature advanced cuckolding? Or something else?
3. What does everybody think about feminization of white boys? In my opinion this is less about feminizing than it is about making the white boy less competitive, less masculine. More of a boy than a man. I have a hunch that white boys have a natural urge to submit to black men. It is a source of comfort to not have to compete and to get guidance from black men (and women for that matter). It seems to me that emasculation, feminization, becoming limp, and all that comes with it really speeds up what seems to me to be natural changes in relationships.

I appreciate and respect all opinions about this. Even ones that disagree with my ideas. I thought it would be interesting to see if there is general agreement regarding at least some of this. Thanks to all.
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@rocuck You reference 'marriage' a lot in this very interesting topic. But, i think we must remind ourselves that not all men want that. White or Black, when we are playing the field, marriage is far from what we seek. And i imagine for the men who continue to enjoy multiple women, and have sort of mini relationships, based on sex as a priority, then marriage just does not feature in their minds. Or...... when it comes to marriage, so many men want a different type of woman than those they have had wild sexual relations with. Just like for marriage, most women seek a very different kind of man than the studs she has been most wild and wanton with.
I think for so many white men now, we can agree that Black men are better men. In the bedroom! Outside of this area, then im sure a high proportion of white males can compete equally, and in all these other areas, it is a lottery for women, to find the man that they connect with and holds the highest value as a lifelong partner.
I think we cuckold males are closer to women in this desire for our close bonded partner. And the older we become, the less being her stud seems an important part of that. And once we find this woman to love, and she freely enjoys better men sexually, then it leads us toward submissive tendencies, denied cuckold, and even sissy. So we become closer to her in other ways. It's a strange transition, but i think it is natural and exciting and no matter how far we go as lesser men, i think the journey with our beloved woman by our side, each of us enjoying the submission to fine Black men to whatever degree. This is the very best part.
 
BiSubCuck said:
@rocuck Ti riferisci molto al 'matrimonio' in questo argomento molto interessante. Ma penso che dobbiamo ricordare a noi stessi che non tutti gli uomini lo vogliono. Bianchi o neri, quando giochiamo sul campo, il matrimonio è lontano da ciò che cerchiamo. E immagino che per gli uomini che continuano a godere di più donne, e hanno una sorta di mini relazioni, basate sul sesso come priorità, allora il matrimonio semplicemente non è presente nelle loro menti. O...... Quando si tratta di matrimonio, molti uomini vogliono un tipo di donna diverso da quelli con cui hanno avuto rapporti sessuali selvaggi. Proprio come per il matrimonio, la maggior parte delle donne cerca un tipo di uomo molto diverso dagli stalloni con cui è stata più selvaggia e sfrenata.
Penso che per così tanti uomini bianchi ora, possiamo essere d'accordo sul fatto che gli uomini neri sono uomini migliori. In camera da letto! Al di fuori di quest'area, quindi sono sicuro che un'alta percentuale di maschi bianchi possa competere alla pari, e in tutte queste altre aree, è una lotteria per le donne, trovare l'uomo con cui si connettono e che detiene il valore più alto come partner per tutta la vita.
Penso che noi maschi cornuti siamo più vicini alle donne in questo desiderio per il nostro partner strettamente legato. E più invecchiamo, meno il fatto di essere il suo stallone sembra una parte importante di questo. E una volta che troviamo questa donna da amare, e gode liberamente di uomini migliori sessualmente, allora ci porta verso tendenze sottomesse, cornuto negato e persino femminuccia. Così ci avviciniamo a lei in altri modi. È una strana transizione, ma penso che sia naturale ed eccitante e non importa quanto lontano andiamo come uomini inferiori, penso che il viaggio con la nostra amata donna al nostro fianco, ognuno di noi goda della sottomissione a bravi uomini neri a qualsiasi livello. Questa è la parte migliore.
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La tua analisi sociale è molto più convincente di quelle più frequenti e semplicistiche. Tuttavia, può darsi che sia diverso per le ultime generazioni, come dimostrato dalla proliferazione di adolescenti femminucce in alcuni paesi oggi.
 
CucPierino said:
La tua analisi sociale è molto più convincente di quelle più frequenti e semplicistiche. Tuttavia, può darsi che sia diverso per le ultime generazioni, come dimostrato dalla proliferazione di adolescenti femminucce in alcuni paesi oggi.
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You make a valid a point. However, i do believe teenage girls today are simply extending their time as singles and having far far more sexual experience than ever before. This causes a number of effects: 1) they become Very aware that not all men are created equal. 2) many of them do not wish to get married, as they are having too much of a good time, and with the kind of men who they Definitely could never imagine being married to. 3) it leaves many lesser equipped, self conscious males with far less dating exoerience. Often remaining virgins. 4) higher number of young ladies getting pregnant by Men who have no desire to be the responsible fath.er figure / husband.

The knock on effects on the above are causing huge changes in society. However, trying to always see the positives...... I hope we are simply in a transitional phase and soon, one day, we will have WOMEN realising that they can have such a life, As well as having the love and care of those men who are currently being left behind.
HUNG ALPHA males realising that lesser male friends around them would perhaps make good partners for the ladies they are enjoying sex with. And they help by talking of such things with both parties. Making intriductions happen.
And BETA Cuckold type males realising their true place in society. That of any or all of the following: A denied cuckold, step in Da.d for raising mixed b.abies. Sissy to enjoy Real men alongside their woman. And to assist in helping all women find such lovers, and all lovers find such women.

We all one day should know our roles and assist in making it work for everyone 😊🤞🤞🤞
 
Frogprince said:
It is not cheating for a woman to submit to virile big cock, even to the point of breeding, carrying the baby to full term, and continuing the genetics of big dick male lines.

One of the points of chastity is to breed out small dick / white boi clit.

In fact, it is the duty of women to submit to big cock and be bred.
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I think only whitebois with really small clits should be allowed to pass there genetics on, select for small penises so that in a few generations all whitebois will have 1-3 inch clits...
 
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