Changes in Marriages and Relationships

[rocuck]

It seems to me that cuckolding is becoming much more common and largely mainstream. It also seems to me that this is associated with black men in their natural dominant role most all of the time. This raises questions as to what is going on and what all of it means. I thought it would be interesting to make a couple of observations and see what others think. These are subjects discussed in this forum in one way or another multiple times so they must be on many minds.

White boys are becoming more feminine and submissive. In my opinion this is pretty much across the board. In my opinion they are becoming physically smaller and less virile. The fantasy of being dominated seems to be getting replaced with the reality of chastity and a descent out of traditional manhood. Most of the comments seem to support the fact that white boys seem to want the humiliation of being beta males. Many more want to become sissies or bottoms and to be feminized. It seems to me that this is no longer a fetish or fantasy. It is likely a normal and probably permanent change of white boys. Since all relationships are give and take what is it that white boys give and what do they take? They give away masculinity, dominance, and pride. In return they get security and guidance. This is the security that they are not expected to perform in a sexual way for women. In the ideal situation they have decisions made for them. They become secondary to the dominant men as well as women. The mere fact that so many white boys embrace this fantasy sort of suggests it is a natural change of things. The question I have is if the future for white boys is marriage and cuckolding or perhaps a total replacement by black men. Also it seems to me that sex for white boys should not, and will not, include relationships with women in that way. They are evolving away from that either by choice or not. Is the future one of chastity and almost a eunuch type existence? Or is the future one of becoming a sissy or bottom or trans? Or both? I guess the question boils down to what does everyone think is the real world future for white boys both sexually and non- sexually? The second part is what does everyone think about the idea that white boys are actually evolving away from masculinity and more towards femininity or something other than a traditional man?

The second issue is the status of modern marriages. This also has been discussed multiple times in many ways. First of all many people talk about "cheating". In my opinion there is a natural attraction between black men and white women. In that sense a woman married to a white boy should have every right to date and have sex with black men. I just do not think it should be considered cheating. It seems to me that it is natural and beautiful. The fact that more and more women are embracing this sexual upgrade sort of supports the inevitability of it all. However, many may be reluctant because they do not want to "cheat". The question here is what is better? Would a society that changes so that black men are the husbands and white boys serve be better? Or would a society be better with white boys as the married husband but in a fully cuckolded marriage? Also what changes in society could give everyone what they need and want? For black men that would be unfettered access to white women and a general acceptance that a marriage to a white boy perhaps does not need to be honored in the traditional sense. This also implies the black man ascending in the work place and in non-sexual roles. Sexual dominance in fantasy followed by sexual dominance in porn followed by sexual dominance in mainstream media followed by sexual dominance in the real world followed by dominance in the work place and society. For women it is the freedom to become submissive to black men but dominant, and non-sexual, with white boys. Married or not. For white boys it is a situation where they can serve and accept guidance. Where it is generally accepted that their role is to serve and facilitate and to become "less" so that the black man can become "more". This also raises the question as to what is a healthy sexual release for white boys since it cannot be with women in the traditional sense?

This post is a bit long and i apologize if it is rambling. These are meant to be serious questions and issues and I thought it would be interesting to get the thoughts of some of the people on this site. Thank you to all who respond, whether or not you agree with some of the general points made.

 

[Starzm]

Interesting, but your opinions seem to pigeon hole black/white guys in only the extremes however as a (white) business owner who has employed dozens, maybe 200 or so guys over the years, I have observed the following: -

- Yes, I have noticed more younger white guys appearing and behaving more beta in more recent times. I believe this is mainly due to social constructs. I have one guy now who looks a little androgynous and behaves quite beta and imagine few girls would have desire for him but occasionally he let's rip and wow, he certainly has fire in his belly! He had an argument with one of my much bigger guys and he didn't back down just the other day.

- I currently do and have always employed guys of all years that are extremely alpha, masculine and dominant (often quite intimidating especially as our work is blue collar). This hasn't really changed.

- I have employed white guys who appear a little weak that have proven the opposite the more I've gotten to know them.

- I have employed black guys who appear very alpha/dominant that have proven the opposite the more I've gotten to know them.

Additionally, I know white girls that only date black guys (usually because they've grown up in a black neighbourhood), white girls who say they aren't attracted to black guys and some that have no preference.

I think we're a long, long way off white guys being put out to pasture. I know the idea of that excites some cuck's/sissy's but I feel that is their own insecurities that influence that. Sorry to offend if my assumption is incorrect.

 

[worshipu9]

It seems to me that cuckolding is becoming much more common and largely mainstream. It also seems to me that this is associated with black men in their natural dominant role most all of the time. This raises questions as to what is going on and what all of it means. I thought it would be interesting to make a couple of observations and see what others think. These are subjects discussed in this forum in one way or another multiple times so they must be on many minds.

White boys are becoming more feminine and submissive. In my opinion this is pretty much across the board. In my opinion they are becoming physically smaller and less virile. The fantasy of being dominated seems to be getting replaced with the reality of chastity and a descent out of traditional manhood. Most of the comments seem to support the fact that white boys seem to want the humiliation of being beta males. Many more want to become sissies or bottoms and to be feminized. It seems to me that this is no longer a fetish or fantasy. It is likely a normal and probably permanent change of white boys. Since all relationships are give and take what is it that white boys give and what do they take? They give away masculinity, dominance, and pride. In return they get security and guidance. This is the security that they are not expected to perform in a sexual way for women. In the ideal situation they have decisions made for them. They become secondary to the dominant men as well as women. The mere fact that so many white boys embrace this fantasy sort of suggests it is a natural change of things. The question I have is if the future for white boys is marriage and cuckolding or perhaps a total replacement by black men. Also it seems to me that sex for white boys should not, and will not, include relationships with women in that way. They are evolving away from that either by choice or not. Is the future one of chastity and almost a eunuch type existence? Or is the future one of becoming a sissy or bottom or trans? Or both? I guess the question boils down to what does everyone think is the real world future for white boys both sexually and non- sexually? The second part is what does everyone think about the idea that white boys are actually evolving away from masculinity and more towards femininity or something other than a traditional man?

The second issue is the status of modern marriages. This also has been discussed multiple times in many ways. First of all many people talk about "cheating". In my opinion there is a natural attraction between black men and white women. In that sense a woman married to a white boy should have every right to date and have sex with black men. I just do not think it should be considered cheating. It seems to me that it is natural and beautiful. The fact that more and more women are embracing this sexual upgrade sort of supports the inevitability of it all. However, many may be reluctant because they do not want to "cheat". The question here is what is better? Would a society that changes so that black men are the husbands and white boys serve be better? Or would a society be better with white boys as the married husband but in a fully cuckolded marriage? Also what changes in society could give everyone what they need and want? For black men that would be unfettered access to white women and a general acceptance that a marriage to a white boy perhaps does not need to be honored in the traditional sense. This also implies the black man ascending in the work place and in non-sexual roles. Sexual dominance in fantasy followed by sexual dominance in porn followed by sexual dominance in mainstream media followed by sexual dominance in the real world followed by dominance in the work place and society. For women it is the freedom to become submissive to black men but dominant, and non-sexual, with white boys. Married or not. For white boys it is a situation where they can serve and accept guidance. Where it is generally accepted that their role is to serve and facilitate and to become "less" so that the black man can become "more". This also raises the question as to what is a healthy sexual release for white boys since it cannot be with women in the traditional sense?

This post is a bit long and i apologize if it is rambling. These are meant to be serious questions and issues and I thought it would be interesting to get the thoughts of some of the people on this site. Thank you to all who respond, whether or not you agree with some of the general points made.

In my situation and I realise it is different for most people, I have always been a typical man's man. This is dispite the fact that I have worshiped Black Men since I was 14. I also shared every single gf and wife since I was 15.
However, I tried to hide this from friends family etc. To them, I was a Real Man. But the reality behind closed doors was that I was a cuckold and BBC hungry white sissy boy.
It has always been very easy for me to get women. For some reason women seem to like me. Usually I would date a woman and very quickly bring up my likes and dislikes sexually. Those women totally anti BBC/cuckold either were cast aside or they stopped seeing me.
What has been amazing is how many women knew what a cuck was, loved the idea of having a loving white bf but that they were good to "cheat" ( more about my idea of what cheating is later).
I was one of those lucky cuck's who met a woman that I married, who was already seeing Black Men and, with my encouragsment and me exposing the cuckold lifestyle, continued to see her Black Men.
This leads me to cheating or what I consider cheating. Again I have to say it is only my version of cheating. Others will have a different idea of cheating.
I love women that cheat. Cheating for me as a married white male turns me on simply because my wife Broke every single vow she swore not to break on our wedding day, in front of our families and friends. This, to me, is the hottest thing a white wife can do.
But is it actually cheating? No, of course not in my case. I have encouraged, helped and organised my gf's and wife to see Real Men - Black Men.
I only ever set two conditions on all my women.
1. They had to "cheat" on me.
2. It had to be exclusively with Black Men.
If the went with white men I would consider she actually cheated on me and think of it as infidelity. Our relationship would end. That IS cheating.
A woman fucking a Black Man it Men is most definitely NOT cheating.
For me, it is the most natural thing in the world and I expect this to happen.

Sorry for the long post

 

[subbeing]

It seems to me that cuckolding is becoming much more common and largely mainstream. It also seems to me that this is associated with black men in their natural dominant role most all of the time. This raises questions as to what is going on and what all of it means. I thought it would be interesting to make a couple of observations and see what others think. These are subjects discussed in this forum in one way or another multiple times so they must be on many minds.

White boys are becoming more feminine and submissive. In my opinion this is pretty much across the board. In my opinion they are becoming physically smaller and less virile. The fantasy of being dominated seems to be getting replaced with the reality of chastity and a descent out of traditional manhood. Most of the comments seem to support the fact that white boys seem to want the humiliation of being beta males. Many more want to become sissies or bottoms and to be feminized. It seems to me that this is no longer a fetish or fantasy. It is likely a normal and probably permanent change of white boys. Since all relationships are give and take what is it that white boys give and what do they take? They give away masculinity, dominance, and pride. In return they get security and guidance. This is the security that they are not expected to perform in a sexual way for women. In the ideal situation they have decisions made for them. They become secondary to the dominant men as well as women. The mere fact that so many white boys embrace this fantasy sort of suggests it is a natural change of things. The question I have is if the future for white boys is marriage and cuckolding or perhaps a total replacement by black men. Also it seems to me that sex for white boys should not, and will not, include relationships with women in that way. They are evolving away from that either by choice or not. Is the future one of chastity and almost a eunuch type existence? Or is the future one of becoming a sissy or bottom or trans? Or both? I guess the question boils down to what does everyone think is the real world future for white boys both sexually and non- sexually? The second part is what does everyone think about the idea that white boys are actually evolving away from masculinity and more towards femininity or something other than a traditional man?

The second issue is the status of modern marriages. This also has been discussed multiple times in many ways. First of all many people talk about "cheating". In my opinion there is a natural attraction between black men and white women. In that sense a woman married to a white boy should have every right to date and have sex with black men. I just do not think it should be considered cheating. It seems to me that it is natural and beautiful. The fact that more and more women are embracing this sexual upgrade sort of supports the inevitability of it all. However, many may be reluctant because they do not want to "cheat". The question here is what is better? Would a society that changes so that black men are the husbands and white boys serve be better? Or would a society be better with white boys as the married husband but in a fully cuckolded marriage? Also what changes in society could give everyone what they need and want? For black men that would be unfettered access to white women and a general acceptance that a marriage to a white boy perhaps does not need to be honored in the traditional sense. This also implies the black man ascending in the work place and in non-sexual roles. Sexual dominance in fantasy followed by sexual dominance in porn followed by sexual dominance in mainstream media followed by sexual dominance in the real world followed by dominance in the work place and society. For women it is the freedom to become submissive to black men but dominant, and non-sexual, with white boys. Married or not. For white boys it is a situation where they can serve and accept guidance. Where it is generally accepted that their role is to serve and facilitate and to become "less" so that the black man can become "more". This also raises the question as to what is a healthy sexual release for white boys since it cannot be with women in the traditional sense?

This post is a bit long and i apologize if it is rambling. These are meant to be serious questions and issues and I thought it would be interesting to get the thoughts of some of the people on this site. Thank you to all who respond, whether or not you agree with some of the general points made.

i think this is a very important post to understand ourselves better. i have been cuckolded for more than two decades and the lI think this is a very important post to understand ourselves better. I have been cuckold pussy free for more than two decades, and the last five years i was with my wife under a BDSM-BNWO regime. For me this is first and foremost a fetishistic, essentially sexual lifestyle. i am a person born as a man, who has always been beta and cuckold since my first few relationships with women. i do believe that Black Men are naturally Dominant and that white women, especially if they are submissive, fall at THEIR feet. In the case of my Wife and several of her girl friends, that is evident. Always speaking from myself, and from what has happened to me, naturally that has led me, despite being heterosexual, to not be able to have sexual relations with my Wife, or with any other woman. Furthermore, as a cuckold, beta and slave, i have been sexually used by Dominant Men. Objectively, and i repeat even though i am heterosexual, in this process my masculinity was taken away, and it has made me more feminine and much more submissive, especially for Black Males, from every point of view. In my case, and other cuckold husbands from my BNWO Community, of course we are not women, but we are not Men either. They feminize us and treat us like faggots. You said:

Where it is generally accepted that their role is to serve and facilitate and to become "less" so that the black man can become "more".

That's exactly my situation. i am "less". we are "less". and this is also how our Wives see us.

This also raises the question as to what is a healthy sexual release for white boys since it cannot be with women in the traditional sense?

In my case i feel a sense of incredible completeness and fullness. i don't know if this is a "healthy sexual release" for me, because i never feel sexually "released", but i do feel sexually complete being what i am, and be treated like what i am, in front of others, without pretending, without masks, without trying to be what i am not.

 

[BiSubCuck]

In my situation and I realise it is different for most people, I have always been a typical man's man. This is dispite the fact that I have worshiped Black Men since I was 14. I also shared every single gf and wife since I was 15.
However, I tried to hide this from friends family etc. To them, I was a Real Man. But the reality behind closed doors was that I was a cuckold and BBC hungry white sissy boy.
It has always been very easy for me to get women. For some reason women seem to like me. Usually I would date a woman and very quickly bring up my likes and dislikes sexually. Those women totally anti BBC/cuckold either were cast aside or they stopped seeing me.
What has been amazing is how many women knew what a cuck was, loved the idea of having a loving white bf but that they were good to "cheat" ( more about my idea of what cheating is later).
I was one of those lucky cuck's who met a woman that I married, who was already seeing Black Men and, with my encouragsment and me exposing the cuckold lifestyle, continued to see her Black Men.
This leads me to cheating or what I consider cheating. Again I have to say it is only my version of cheating. Others will have a different idea of cheating.
I love women that cheat. Cheating for me as a married white male turns me on simply because my wife Broke every single vow she swore not to break on our wedding day, in front of our families and friends. This, to me, is the hottest thing a white wife can do.
But is it actually cheating? No, of course not in my case. I have encouraged, helped and organised my gf's and wife to see Real Men - Black Men.
I only ever set two conditions on all my women.
1. They had to "cheat" on me.
2. It had to be exclusively with Black Men.
If the went with white men I would consider she actually cheated on me and think of it as infidelity. Our relationship would end. That IS cheating.
A woman fucking a Black Man it Men is most definitely NOT cheating.
For me, it is the most natural thing in the world and I expect this to happen.

Sorry for the long post

I couldnt agree more

 

[BlacSnakeEater]

As someone who identifies as heterosexual and has experienced similar struggles myself, I understand your frustration and sense of loss regarding traditional relationships with white women. However, it's important to recognize that change can also bring about opportunities for growth and self-discovery if we choose to embrace them openly.

In this new reality where black men are ascending both sexually and socially, there is a place for white males like us who voluntarily submit ourselves to their superiority. By embracing our submissive roles, whether that be chastity, cuckoldry, sissy, trans, or eunuch, for white women and their dominant black masters, we can find purpose and fulfillment that may have been elusive in traditional heterosexual relationships with women. The thought of watching a beautiful black man take what is rightfully his—a white woman—fills me with both pride and humiliation in the most delicious way possible.

It's crucial for us white males to acknowledge our privilege within historical contexts and recognize that it is long overdue for others (particularly Black individuals) to experience the same levels of power, respect, and sexual gratification we have historically enjoyed. For white women who find themselves attracted to Black partners despite societal pressures against interracial relationships, it's crucial that they are supported in exploring their desires openly without fear of judgment or repercussions from family members or wider society.

I believe that in a world where black men reign supreme over weak and inferior men such as us, there is no place for traditional masculinity or heterosexual relationships between white men and women. Instead, we should embrace our new roles designed solely to serve the pleasure of superior black males. I assure you that there are countless ways a devoted cuckold such as myself can find satisfaction in serving my superior's cock—whether it be through cleaning and worshiping his massive member, suckling on the head of his dick like an eager puppy begging for scraps, or even being used as nothing more than a living cum dumpster to collect and savor every drop of his potent seed. The possibilities are endless.

 

[Frogprince]

It is not cheating for a woman to submit to virile big cock, even to the point of breeding, carrying the baby to full term, and continuing the genetics of big dick male lines.

One of the points of chastity is to breed out small dick / white boi clit.

In fact, it is the duty of women to submit to big cock and be bred.

 

[down boy]

I’m a white submissive slave I’m owned by a black Master for about a year now. I was married but my wife left me for her black boyfriend. I haven’t seen them but before she left me I lived with my Mistress and Master ( my wife and her lover ) I was their slave servant. I loved living like that and they punished and disciplined me regularly and Iwas told I provided excellent domestic service. I have some older sisters and one in particular who was very bossy, her husband is very hen pecked. My sister is very conservative Christian woman and she came to visit my wife and l. She knew about how we were living our like triad type of relationship and she insisted on coming to see us in person. My wife made the arrangement and my older sister came to visit. My wife said we aren’t changing a thing . I thought she was going to freak out. My wife and her boyfriend greeted my sister at the door and I said hello to her too. My mistress said go in the other room and sat off to the side I could here them talking but I was off in the next room the two rooms are open but connected. I was on speak when spoken too other wise shut the fuck up that’s the rule. Well my sister saw them as a couple and my wife told her straight up that Master was her lover. My wife told me to bring in the refreshments and I served them so I did and Master told me to get his phone I went and brought that back for him. My sister actually said oh Margo I like how you trained my brother she said that’s the best thing for him. The afternoon went very well my sister said it’s a bit unusual but she thought it was fine. That’s was about 2 years ago. Now I’m owned by a black Master and I’m pussy free gay bbc slave. Well my wife told my sister about my situation and she contacted my Master and my sister came to see Master and I. I really thought she was going to freak out this time. Master is much more controlling. Master was talking to my sister and he told her right up front that he’s very strict with me. He called me in the room they sat on the Sofa master pointed and I got down and sat on the floor by his feet that’s where I always sit. My sister said to me are you happy I said yes very much. I said to her I love my Master. This was the ultimate master took my slave collar and put it in my neck and locked it. My sister watched in amazement then Master said who owns you I said Master does. I went and got the tea and the pastries and served them and they talked and enjoyed the refreshments and their conversation, I was in the other room. I didn’t hear what was being said but I heard my sister laugh a few times. This was the part I couldn’t believe Master said bring us some wine and serve like your supposed to serve my guests I looked at master and he said yes exactly like you serve my guests exactly.So I went to our bedroom and took my clothes off so I just had my dicklet squashed up in my micro cage and my slave collar and my long hair looks really female. I went out and served them the wine and my sister laughed at me. She said David that’s my Master that’s a real good look for him plus it takes his man hood away I see your point David it emasculated him I can see how it works now. My sister went on to tell him how she whipped my butt when I was a kid when she was baby sitting me they got a laugh out of that .well my sister left but before she went she hugged David and kissed him on the cheek and kind told me how I better obey David like she was scolding me when I was a kid but she left happy the whole thing blew my mind it was a good time I was worrying for nothing . Some old friends reject you when you come out to them as gay and especially a gay bbc slave lol

 

[WeakWhiteMale]

It seems to me that cuckolding is becoming much more common and largely mainstream. It also seems to me that this is associated with black men in their natural dominant role most all of the time. This raises questions as to what is going on and what all of it means. I thought it would be interesting to make a couple of observations and see what others think. These are subjects discussed in this forum in one way or another multiple times so they must be on many minds.

White boys are becoming more feminine and submissive. In my opinion this is pretty much across the board. In my opinion they are becoming physically smaller and less virile. The fantasy of being dominated seems to be getting replaced with the reality of chastity and a descent out of traditional manhood. Most of the comments seem to support the fact that white boys seem to want the humiliation of being beta males. Many more want to become sissies or bottoms and to be feminized. It seems to me that this is no longer a fetish or fantasy. It is likely a normal and probably permanent change of white boys. Since all relationships are give and take what is it that white boys give and what do they take? They give away masculinity, dominance, and pride. In return they get security and guidance. This is the security that they are not expected to perform in a sexual way for women. In the ideal situation they have decisions made for them. They become secondary to the dominant men as well as women. The mere fact that so many white boys embrace this fantasy sort of suggests it is a natural change of things. The question I have is if the future for white boys is marriage and cuckolding or perhaps a total replacement by black men. Also it seems to me that sex for white boys should not, and will not, include relationships with women in that way. They are evolving away from that either by choice or not. Is the future one of chastity and almost a eunuch type existence? Or is the future one of becoming a sissy or bottom or trans? Or both? I guess the question boils down to what does everyone think is the real world future for white boys both sexually and non- sexually? The second part is what does everyone think about the idea that white boys are actually evolving away from masculinity and more towards femininity or something other than a traditional man?

The second issue is the status of modern marriages. This also has been discussed multiple times in many ways. First of all many people talk about "cheating". In my opinion there is a natural attraction between black men and white women. In that sense a woman married to a white boy should have every right to date and have sex with black men. I just do not think it should be considered cheating. It seems to me that it is natural and beautiful. The fact that more and more women are embracing this sexual upgrade sort of supports the inevitability of it all. However, many may be reluctant because they do not want to "cheat". The question here is what is better? Would a society that changes so that black men are the husbands and white boys serve be better? Or would a society be better with white boys as the married husband but in a fully cuckolded marriage? Also what changes in society could give everyone what they need and want? For black men that would be unfettered access to white women and a general acceptance that a marriage to a white boy perhaps does not need to be honored in the traditional sense. This also implies the black man ascending in the work place and in non-sexual roles. Sexual dominance in fantasy followed by sexual dominance in porn followed by sexual dominance in mainstream media followed by sexual dominance in the real world followed by dominance in the work place and society. For women it is the freedom to become submissive to black men but dominant, and non-sexual, with white boys. Married or not. For white boys it is a situation where they can serve and accept guidance. Where it is generally accepted that their role is to serve and facilitate and to become "less" so that the black man can become "more". This also raises the question as to what is a healthy sexual release for white boys since it cannot be with women in the traditional sense?

This post is a bit long and i apologize if it is rambling. These are meant to be serious questions and issues and I thought it would be interesting to get the thoughts of some of the people on this site. Thank you to all who respond, whether or not you agree with some of the general points made.

I really like your observations and thoughts. I think you're right that society is changing and will continue to change so that white males are gradually put to the side and are, as you say, the beneficiaries of relationships in which they are tertiary. They get to become less, but they benefit from that as they have a growing need to serve and be guided. We want and need structure, and we want to know how we fit into it. The social hierarchy of placing black males and even white women above us is good and healthy. This is painful for many, but it will be ultimately good in the long run.

I see white males' roles changing to be more feminized and submissive, as you said, and with that I see us being tasked with helping to raise the children that come from this new world order. I think that definitions within the institution of marriage will eventually catch up to redefine white males in their new roles. It may be a different title than "husband".

Either way, I'm happy to see this trend.

 

[rocuck]

I want to thank WeakWhiteMale and the others on this thread for their responses. I do think things are changing. White boys are sliding down the masculine hill rapidly. And that is likely a good thing. It is encouraging to see so many embrace the change, adapt and submit. So thanks.

 

[WeakWhiteMale]

I want to thank WeakWhiteMale and the others on this thread for their responses. I do think things are changing. White boys are sliding down the masculine hill rapidly. And that is likely a good thing. It is encouraging to see so many embrace the change, adapt and submit. So thanks.

Do you think there is anything that we, as white men, can do to help the evolution of our kind forward?

 

[rocuck]

Do you think there is anything that we, as white men, can do to help the evolution of our kind forward?

Thank you WWM.

I like to think of this as healthy evolution and more of a DESCENT away from manhood rather than FORWARD movement. Anyway I think this is a great question and I will give my opinion on this. I hope others will add their thoughts and experiences.

I think there are three areas for white boys to focus on. First is the physical. If you feminize to some extent it will emphasize the difference between a soft white boy and a hard black man. Some could take supplements or hormones even. Tight chastity might help make you smaller and will certainly stop erections. More feminine dress and hair could help. If a white boy stays limp he cannot compete and this will make it inevitable for the woman to be with a black man. A single exposure to a real man and it is unlikely she will ever want to be with a white boy again. In my opinion this change away from masculinity will likely vary from person to person. Some could become bottoms, sissies or trans. Some just softer white boys. Again the purpose is to draw a distinction. The mental acceptance will almost certainly follow any physical changes that are taken. At least that is how I see this.

The second part is mental. Anything that emphasizes white women with black men will help condition the mind in the right way. In this area porn may be of help. Interracial porn should be the only porn watched and searched for. This will be noticed and gradually this healthy type of sex will predominate. Mainstream media will follow and we already are seeing this. I hope that eventually virtually all mainstream movies and TV shows feature romance between white women and black men only. White boys can be depicted as friendly helpers who are happy when the couple gets together. In this setting hard core scenes are not really needed. Day to day interactions may help more. Of course, most of us have little control over what stuff is made and broadcasted. But we do have control over what we watch. Watching, commenting, observing. Anything that reinforces AWAY from white boys is good in my opinion. I suspect the false masculinity and competitiveness of white boys will disappear after they have been bombarded with the healthy images. I am not sure if ******* would help a white boy and would be interested in others thoughts. I just continue to think that white women and black men do not need all of this help. They are not the problem. If they can get together a single time AND if this is associated with absolute total support and submission by white boys I think things will be permanent. This may be the hardest part for white boys but may be most important. This could be liberating for white boys and make them happier. No need to compete or worry. Just be happy for others and obey and serve. The natural role.

The third part is behavior. White boys can constantly comment to any women in their lives when they see a black man look at the woman. They can compliment her on how that is the utmost in femininity-to attract a black man. They can comment on how attracting a white boy is easy but black men are special. Always positive in this setting. If a black man approaches the white boy can step back and subtly lower his head. He should be silent. He should smile and be positive but not interrupt. Always positive and submissive. At home a white boy can do the housework in a cheerful manner. Finally it seems to me the white boy should not be having sex with the woman. If you are limp or in a chastity device that is not a problem. Also oral on the woman or dildo play (black dildo only) are possible outlets. But it has been said by many that one key to all of this is for the woman to be unsatisfied with the white boy. Needing more. And if given a total green light and support in that setting the magic may begin. Fantasy in media will be followed by real life sex will be followed by real life change in the non-sexual world.

I am sorry to have gone on so long. These are my opinions and everyone will have to decide if they agree or not. There are probably other ways to reach the same goal but these seem to be the best. At least as I see it. Thanks again to WWM.

 

[Tallyguy2020]

Thank you WWM.

I like to think of this as healthy evolution and more of a DESCENT away from manhood rather than FORWARD movement. Anyway I think this is a great question and I will give my opinion on this. I hope others will add their thoughts and experiences.

I think there are three areas for white boys to focus on. First is the physical. If you feminize to some extent it will emphasize the difference between a soft white boy and a hard black man. Some could take supplements or hormones even. Tight chastity might help make you smaller and will certainly stop erections. More feminine dress and hair could help. If a white boy stays limp he cannot compete and this will make it inevitable for the woman to be with a black man. A single exposure to a real man and it is unlikely she will ever want to be with a white boy again. In my opinion this change away from masculinity will likely vary from person to person. Some could become bottoms, sissies or trans. Some just softer white boys. Again the purpose is to draw a distinction. The mental acceptance will almost certainly follow any physical changes that are taken. At least that is how I see this.

The second part is mental. Anything that emphasizes white women with black men will help condition the mind in the right way. In this area porn may be of help. Interracial porn should be the only porn watched and searched for. This will be noticed and gradually this healthy type of sex will predominate. Mainstream media will follow and we already are seeing this. I hope that eventually virtually all mainstream movies and TV shows feature romance between white women and black men only. White boys can be depicted as friendly helpers who are happy when the couple gets together. In this setting hard core scenes are not really needed. Day to day interactions may help more. Of course, most of us have little control over what stuff is made and broadcasted. But we do have control over what we watch. Watching, commenting, observing. Anything that reinforces AWAY from white boys is good in my opinion. I suspect the false masculinity and competitiveness of white boys will disappear after they have been bombarded with the healthy images. I am not sure if ******* would help a white boy and would be interested in others thoughts. I just continue to think that white women and black men do not need all of this help. They are not the problem. If they can get together a single time AND if this is associated with absolute total support and submission by white boys I think things will be permanent. This may be the hardest part for white boys but may be most important. This could be liberating for white boys and make them happier. No need to compete or worry. Just be happy for others and obey and serve. The natural role.

The third part is behavior. White boys can constantly comment to any women in their lives when they see a black man look at the woman. They can compliment her on how that is the utmost in femininity-to attract a black man. They can comment on how attracting a white boy is easy but black men are special. Always positive in this setting. If a black man approaches the white boy can step back and subtly lower his head. He should be silent. He should smile and be positive but not interrupt. Always positive and submissive. At home a white boy can do the housework in a cheerful manner. Finally it seems to me the white boy should not be having sex with the woman. If you are limp or in a chastity device that is not a problem. Also oral on the woman or dildo play (black dildo only) are possible outlets. But it has been said by many that one key to all of this is for the woman to be unsatisfied with the white boy. Needing more. And if given a total green light and support in that setting the magic may begin. Fantasy in media will be followed by real life sex will be followed by real life change in the non-sexual world.

I am sorry to have gone on so long. These are my opinions and everyone will have to decide if they agree or not. There are probably other ways to reach the same goal but these seem to be the best. At least as I see it. Thanks again to WWM.

Love this!! You are so perceptive!

 

[Jimmydong]

Interesting, but your opinions seem to pigeon hole black/white guys in only the extremes however as a (white) business owner who has employed dozens, maybe 200 or so guys over the years, I have observed the following: -

- Yes, I have noticed more younger white guys appearing and behaving more beta in more recent times. I believe this is mainly due to social constructs. I have one guy now who looks a little androgynous and behaves quite beta and imagine few girls would have desire for him but occasionally he let's rip and wow, he certainly has fire in his belly! He had an argument with one of my much bigger guys and he didn't back down just the other day.

- I currently do and have always employed guys of all years that are extremely alpha, masculine and dominant (often quite intimidating especially as our work is blue collar). This hasn't really changed.

- I have employed white guys who appear a little weak that have proven the opposite the more I've gotten to know them.

- I have employed black guys who appear very alpha/dominant that have proven the opposite the more I've gotten to know them.

Additionally, I know white girls that only date black guys (usually because they've grown up in a black neighbourhood), white girls who say they aren't attracted to black guys and some that have no preference.

I think we're a long, long way off white guys being put out to pasture. I know the idea of that excites some cuck's/sissy's but I feel that is their own insecurities that influence that. Sorry to offend if my assumption is incorrect.

The social construct part is simply mental and would not lead to changes in appearance. Younger guys today are physically more effeminate than in the past and that’s because there is something in the water as the saying goes. Testosterone levels are dropping year by year and today we have half the testosterone our grandfathers had. There are many different theories and I personally believe it’s preservatives in processed foods. A hundred years ago we were eating from the farm to table and now it’s factory to table. We are not healthy eaters anymore and it’s affecting our health in many ways. Bottled spring water and fresh food may help correct the testosterone problem.

 

[CucPierino]

It seems to me that cuckolding is becoming much more common and largely mainstream. It also seems to me that this is associated with black men in their natural dominant role most all of the time. This raises questions as to what is going on and what all of it means. I thought it would be interesting to make a couple of observations and see what others think. These are subjects discussed in this forum in one way or another multiple times so they must be on many minds.

White boys are becoming more feminine and submissive. In my opinion this is pretty much across the board. In my opinion they are becoming physically smaller and less virile. The fantasy of being dominated seems to be getting replaced with the reality of chastity and a descent out of traditional manhood. Most of the comments seem to support the fact that white boys seem to want the humiliation of being beta males. Many more want to become sissies or bottoms and to be feminized. It seems to me that this is no longer a fetish or fantasy. It is likely a normal and probably permanent change of white boys. Since all relationships are give and take what is it that white boys give and what do they take? They give away masculinity, dominance, and pride. In return they get security and guidance. This is the security that they are not expected to perform in a sexual way for women. In the ideal situation they have decisions made for them. They become secondary to the dominant men as well as women. The mere fact that so many white boys embrace this fantasy sort of suggests it is a natural change of things. The question I have is if the future for white boys is marriage and cuckolding or perhaps a total replacement by black men. Also it seems to me that sex for white boys should not, and will not, include relationships with women in that way. They are evolving away from that either by choice or not. Is the future one of chastity and almost a eunuch type existence? Or is the future one of becoming a sissy or bottom or trans? Or both? I guess the question boils down to what does everyone think is the real world future for white boys both sexually and non- sexually? The second part is what does everyone think about the idea that white boys are actually evolving away from masculinity and more towards femininity or something other than a traditional man?

The second issue is the status of modern marriages. This also has been discussed multiple times in many ways. First of all many people talk about "cheating". In my opinion there is a natural attraction between black men and white women. In that sense a woman married to a white boy should have every right to date and have sex with black men. I just do not think it should be considered cheating. It seems to me that it is natural and beautiful. The fact that more and more women are embracing this sexual upgrade sort of supports the inevitability of it all. However, many may be reluctant because they do not want to "cheat". The question here is what is better? Would a society that changes so that black men are the husbands and white boys serve be better? Or would a society be better with white boys as the married husband but in a fully cuckolded marriage? Also what changes in society could give everyone what they need and want? For black men that would be unfettered access to white women and a general acceptance that a marriage to a white boy perhaps does not need to be honored in the traditional sense. This also implies the black man ascending in the work place and in non-sexual roles. Sexual dominance in fantasy followed by sexual dominance in porn followed by sexual dominance in mainstream media followed by sexual dominance in the real world followed by dominance in the work place and society. For women it is the freedom to become submissive to black men but dominant, and non-sexual, with white boys. Married or not. For white boys it is a situation where they can serve and accept guidance. Where it is generally accepted that their role is to serve and facilitate and to become "less" so that the black man can become "more". This also raises the question as to what is a healthy sexual release for white boys since it cannot be with women in the traditional sense?

This post is a bit long and i apologize if it is rambling. These are meant to be serious questions and issues and I thought it would be interesting to get the thoughts of some of the people on this site. Thank you to all who respond, whether or not you agree with some of the general points made.

Your post isn't too long and it's not rambling at all: I'm sure of it!
Conversely, I would be pleased if you indicated, perhaps only on the basis of your impressions, how massive the phenomenon you highlighted can be considered, i.e. what percentage of people seem to you to be proceeding in this direction. I guess a reliable demographic survey is not possible, but at least an opinion. The other question I would like to raise concerns the scope of your perception, which I suppose refers to the USA, much less to the rest of "magna Europa" and not at all outside the capitalist world.
An answer that I allow myself to outline is that I imagine that society could evolve outside the scheme of the monoandric and monogamous family, towards larger communities (and therefore with lower per capita consumption and "economies of scale"), at within which dominant black males, submissive white males, partially dominant girls and predominantly submissive girls coexist without stress.

 

[CucPierino]

I really like your observations and thoughts. I think you're right that society is changing and will continue to change so that white males are gradually put to the side and are, as you say, the beneficiaries of relationships in which they are tertiary. They get to become less, but they benefit from that as they have a growing need to serve and be guided. We want and need structure, and we want to know how we fit into it. The social hierarchy of placing black males and even white women above us is good and healthy. This is painful for many, but it will be ultimately good in the long run.

I see white males' roles changing to be more feminized and submissive, as you said, and with that I see us being tasked with helping to raise the children that come from this new world order. I think that definitions within the institution of marriage will eventually catch up to redefine white males in their new roles. It may be a different title than "husband".

Either way, I'm happy to see this trend.

I, on the contrary, assume that the white male will continue to be referred to as "husband", as this title will add a bit of extra excitement for the dominant black male.

 

[WeakWhiteMale]

The social construct part is simply mental and would not lead to changes in appearance. Younger guys today are physically more effeminate than in the past and that’s because there is something in the water as the saying goes. Testosterone levels are dropping year by year and today we have half the testosterone our grandfathers had. There are many different theories and I personally believe it’s preservatives in processed foods. A hundred years ago we were eating from the farm to table and now it’s factory to table. We are not healthy eaters anymore and it’s affecting our health in many ways. Bottled spring water and fresh food may help correct the testosterone problem.

And yet black men do not suffer from this. They consistently outperform white males. This points to their superiority.

 

[Jimmydong]

And yet black men do not suffer from this. They consistently outperform white males. This points to their superiority.

No dude you have no idea what you are talking about. There are no races out there that have genes that make them immune to chemicals in the body. You see the world through a heavily biased lense. When you say black men are you referring to the 50 bulls on this sight along with the thousands of other muscular fit black bulls out there or are you referring to all the 16 million adult black males in the U.S. that include thousands of gay men, trans men, nerdy men, and fat men? Yes one of the fastest growing segments of the lgbt community is black males so when you look at those statistics not to mention a glance of people at the mall you would be aware that black men are actually suffering from this as well.

 

[CucPierino]

No dude you have no idea what you are talking about. There are no races out there that have genes that make them immune to chemicals in the body. You see the world through a heavily biased lense. When you say black men are you referring to the 50 bulls on this sight along with the thousands of other muscular fit black bulls out there or are you referring to all the 16 million adult black males in the U.S. that include thousands of gay men, trans men, nerdy men, and fat men? Yes one of the fastest growing segments of the lgbt community is black males so when you look at those statistics not to mention a glance of people at the mall you would be aware that black men are actually suffering from this as well.

Your observation is not without merit. However, perhaps you can also be trans and dominant (I've seen them), or female and dominant (and no one doubts it). Furthermore, human societies evolve, slowly but continuously, and many historians begin their essays by stating that the period studied was a "transition period": a rather banal statement. I wonder if the "rising" of the BNWO will not cause a strong change in the mass customs of blacks, not only sexual, dramatically increasing their tendency towards dominant attitudes. And the "black avalanche" will run, swelling.

 

[Jimmydong]

A man wanting to be a woman whether dominant or not doesn’t fit into the big black bull category no matter how you look at it and will never be associated with high testosterone levels. Listen the guys premise is completely wrong and my reasoning shows that. Now if you want to contend that whites are ahead of blacks in their declining testosterone that certainly could be the case. It makes perfect sense that whites would lead since there is a small component of this in sociology. The attack on masculinity was obviously targeted at white men and not minority groups but it’s ineffective unless the testosterone levels have decreased and that factor is equal across the board. The only people escaping it are probably naturalists and people that eat organically. Interracial cuckolding is a fetish certain people enjoy but the globalists that want weak citizens so they can control the public don’t care if you are white or black or purple.