White Guys Like To Call Black Women, "Ho's?"

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Check out Sean on the thread, "What White Guys Like To Watch." Post after post of denigrating comments towards Black Women. And people wonder, "why aren't there more black women on this site?" Sean will provide you a real world view of what many White Men think of Back Women. What if the tables were turned, and we Black men started calling all white women "Ho's," simply because they're white?
 
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SanDiegoBlack said:
Check out Sean on the thread, "What White Guys Like To Watch." Post after post of denigrating comments towards Black Women. And people wonder, "why aren't there more black women on this site?" Sean will provide you a real world view of what many White Men think of Back Women. What if the tables were turned, and we Black men started calling all white women "Ho's," simply because they're white?
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Oh, and now he's telling ME to "chill," because after all, "this is only a porn site." So white men can call black women whatever they'd like to?
 
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Check out Sean on the thread, "What White Guys Like To Watch." Post after post of denigrating comments towards Black Women. And people wonder, "why aren't there more black women on this site?" Sean will provide you a real world view of what many White Men think of Back Women. What if the tables were turned, and we Black men started calling all white women "Ho's," simply because they're white?
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I won't search for it, but if I saw it would simply ask him how he felt about the 'ho' that birthed him.
 
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Check out Sean on the thread, "What White Guys Like To Watch." Post after post of denigrating comments towards Black Women. And people wonder, "why aren't there more black women on this site?" Sean will provide you a real world view of what many White Men think of Back Women. What if the tables were turned, and we Black men started calling all white women "Ho's," simply because they're white?
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I would say your experience is quite different from mine. The first time i heard that term Ho's i was very young. Raised in the deep south it was a discussion being done by about fifteen black men. They used it it appeared to describe black women. They were at lunch and i was seated in my fathers office with a open window allowing me to hear everything. It was this ho did that, those ho's were at the church . It didn't sound hateful in any way. They used it so much i ask my ******* what it was about. He said the black males used it like my brothers used girls, gals or chicks .
I never heard a white man or boy using that term at all, whore seemed to be their word of choice. I wonder if the use of it to as you say describe Black Women today is not learned behavior. I've heard white males use it describing white females. My first remembrance of RAP music was filled with that word along with MF and Bitch. I think knowing the history of that word as a common descriptor of a female then mostly black by black males. Like all words the way they are used or spoken determines the intent.
As for your question about blacks calling white women ho's, I'm amused. I thought that was becoming a common thing. Before the covid when i could sit at the food court in the mall more than once i heard two or more young black males using that term when discussing or pointing out white females. Like the black men of my youth it was not intended as a insult. Merely check out that or those ho or ho's. Usually followed by some complementary words like she's beautiful or they look hot. You could tell they intended no disrespect. I would hope that all males black or white upon hearing or reading consider the intent of the words before getting upset.
 
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I would say your experience is quite different from mine. The first time i heard that term Ho's i was very young. Raised in the deep south it was a discussion being done by about fifteen black men. They used it it appeared to describe black women. They were at lunch and i was seated in my fathers office with a open window allowing me to hear everything. It was this ho did that, those ho's were at the church . It didn't sound hateful in any way. They used it so much i ask my ******* what it was about. He said the black males used it like my brothers used girls, gals or chicks .
I never heard a white man or boy using that term at all, whore seemed to be their word of choice. I wonder if the use of it to as you say describe Black Women today is not learned behavior. I've heard white males use it describing white females. My first remembrance of RAP music was filled with that word along with MF and Bitch. I think knowing the history of that word as a common descriptor of a female then mostly black by black males. Like all words the way they are used or spoken determines the intent.
As for your question about blacks calling white women ho's, I'm amused. I thought that was becoming a common thing. Before the covid when i could sit at the food court in the mall more than once i heard two or more young black males using that term when discussing or pointing out white females. Like the black men of my youth it was not intended as a insult. Merely check out that or those ho or ho's. Usually followed by some complementary words like she's beautiful or they look hot. You could tell they intended no disrespect. I would hope that all males black or white upon hearing or reading consider the intent of the words before getting upset.
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And I would say that you're missing the context of the group dynamic. Often, whites will say, "black people use this term or that term all of the time." That doesn't make it right for whites to use those phrases. Whites do the same, and it doesn't make it okay for blacks to use their terminology. Get a group of Italian, Polish, British--you name it-- men together, and if you can (as you stated, you inadvertently heard the term used), listen to how they "bust each other's balls" by referencing terms that if you or I used in referring to them, would result in our having to pick our teeth up from the floor (after they knocked them out)! What you "overhear" from a crowd is not the way most people talk to OTHERS outside of their group, in public. Another example, when you heard the guys in the food court (among themselves, not for public consumption) refer to women as "ho's," it may not have been disparagingly (as you pointed out), and if someone from that group happened to have an aunt, sister, cousin, etc., among the group of women being discussed, that would have immediately "checked" the guy using the term (whoa...that's my sister you're talking about, and don't refer to her as a ho!), and the guy(s) using the term would have responded with, "sorry bro, didn't know that was your sis! You know I wasn't dissin' your sister!"
To find it "amusing" that I pointed out the difference in a white man calling a black woman a "ho," just because he felt like it, misses the point I was making. Among his friends, he probably uses that term and other terms even more vulgar when referring to black women AND black men. To do it on a public forum, expect to be "checked." The obvious response would be, "what about the black dudes on here referring to white women as "ho's and bitches?" This is a site where many of the white women have openly said, "it's okay, I want to be called that, etc." Not for you? Then check the brother who refers to you in that terminology. However, the number of black women on this site is probably equal to a tick above zero (.001%), so I took it upon myself to check the guy for them--knowing that most black woman would check a black man for referring to them as a "ho," and would certainly check a white dude that has almost zero in common with her, for calling her a "ho." I'm not angry and I'm not upset, but I don't find it "amusing," either.
 
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artgirl said:
I would say your experience is quite different from mine. The first time i heard that term Ho's i was very young. Raised in the deep south it was a discussion being done by about fifteen black men. They used it it appeared to describe black women. They were at lunch and i was seated in my fathers office with a open window allowing me to hear everything. It was this ho did that, those ho's were at the church . It didn't sound hateful in any way. They used it so much i ask my ******* what it was about. He said the black males used it like my brothers used girls, gals or chicks .
I never heard a white man or boy using that term at all, whore seemed to be their word of choice. I wonder if the use of it to as you say describe Black Women today is not learned behavior. I've heard white males use it describing white females. My first remembrance of RAP music was filled with that word along with MF and Bitch. I think knowing the history of that word as a common descriptor of a female then mostly black by black males. Like all words the way they are used or spoken determines the intent.
As for your question about blacks calling white women ho's, I'm amused. I thought that was becoming a common thing. Before the covid when i could sit at the food court in the mall more than once i heard two or more young black males using that term when discussing or pointing out white females. Like the black men of my youth it was not intended as a insult. Merely check out that or those ho or ho's. Usually followed by some complementary words like she's beautiful or they look hot. You could tell they intended no disrespect. I would hope that all males black or white upon hearing or reading consider the intent of the words before getting upset.
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i do not want to offend you in any way ..... but really ???? you show a woman respect in all ways .. when it come to playing then what she wants is all the more fun .. but i sooo do not agree calling woman a ho or anything like that in a mall or anywhere no matter the race of the man or the woman is just not right .. this is one of the reasons we are having many issues in race and sex .... far to many are excusing the words and acts of others based on sex and race ..just my 2 cents ....again no hate towards you at all
 
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And I would say that you're missing the context of the group dynamic. Often, whites will say, "black people use this term or that term all of the time." That doesn't make it right for whites to use those phrases. Whites do the same, and it doesn't make it okay for blacks to use their terminology. Get a group of Italian, Polish, British--you name it-- men together, and if you can (as you stated, you inadvertently heard the term used), listen to how they "bust each other's balls" by referencing terms that if you or I used in referring to them, would result in our having to pick our teeth up from the floor (after they knocked them out)! What you "overhear" from a crowd is not the way most people talk to OTHERS outside of their group, in public. Another example, when you heard the guys in the food court (among themselves, not for public consumption) refer to women as "ho's," it may not have been disparagingly (as you pointed out), and if someone from that group happened to have an aunt, sister, cousin, etc., among the group of women being discussed, that would have immediately "checked" the guy using the term (whoa...that's my sister you're talking about, and don't refer to her as a ho!), and the guy(s) using the term would have responded with, "sorry bro, didn't know that was your sis! You know I wasn't dissin' your sister!"
To find it "amusing" that I pointed out the difference in a white man calling a black woman a "ho," just because he felt like it, misses the point I was making. Among his friends, he probably uses that term and other terms even more vulgar when referring to black women AND black men. To do it on a public forum, expect to be "checked." The obvious response would be, "what about the black dudes on here referring to white women as "ho's and bitches?" This is a site where many of the white women have openly said, "it's okay, I want to be called that, etc." Not for you? Then check the brother who refers to you in that terminology. However, the number of black women on this site is probably equal to a tick above zero (.001%), so I took it upon myself to check the guy for them--knowing that most black woman would check a black man for referring to them as a "ho," and would certainly check a white dude that has almost zero in common with her, for calling her a "ho." I'm not angry and I'm not upset, but I don't find it "amusing," either.
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I read your response with interest. You say Often, whites will say, "black people use this term or that term all of the time." That doesn't make it right for whites to use those phrases. Whites do the same, and it doesn't make it okay for blacks to use their terminology. “ Seems like a racist statement to me. How is that any different from one race can eat here but the other cant. Language is colorblind all should be able to use it.

Consider that those words ho and ho’s are used so often . Is all that rap music containing them only for blacks. Used frequently now in motion pictures are those films only for blacks . Every person hearing those terms is a possible future user of them. I merely pointed out how I first heard those phrases . I got a simple explanation of what I overheard without the vulgar side but I was only nine at the time.

I’m older now and I realize that even though used in slang Ho ho’s : Floosy, *******, someone who dresses like a floosy. Can be used teasingly, One definition, It also says it is slang for WHORE hard to make a complement out of that word if you go by the definition.

From my point of view neither white or black males should use it even as a descriptor as I heard it by both the older men of my youth or the teens in the food court. Talking so loud all could hear and none of the others mostly other races knocked any teeth out. It was clear by the conversation they meant no disrespect to those mostly teen girls they directed those phrases at. So the audience behaved rather well had one red neck been there with his shooter how different it could have been.

I take exception to your assumption that if you used a ethnic phrase you would find your teeth on the floor. True if you used it in a hateful way or in a situation you describe where you were unknown you’d have as good a chance as anyone to look for your teeth. If you were known a friend surly you would be safe. I think of one of our swinger groups a rainbow colors. The men being men always busting the other balls. Two of the five black men were very vocal calling one guy a wap another a grease-er even one commonly called the old jew. They responded with spook or darkie or some other word or phrase that had nothing to do with race. No one ever got punched. Because they were friends not strangers.

Saddened by your description of black brothers using the phrase to describe a female then having to apologize upon learning that was a sister of another. Indicating the use of it was wrong or disrespectful unless one actually knew the female spoken of. A impression it’s fine to say that crap about others who aren’t known to those in the conversation. How is that different from the white you have difficulty with. Again you want that privilege exclusively and have a problem with other races doing the exact same thing.

I would hope that anyone viewing a clip or hearing a conversation would consider the intention behind it. Was it done in humor to get clicks or disrespect or even hate. That is the time to react eliminating words to any group by color to me is wrong. Ammunition for the race baiters, they will say see they don’t want to be equal they want special privileges. In this case phrases that only we can use. To late for this one I think. It’s been used openly for too long. People of all colors are using it. Most as a descriptor. Those who do it in hate you know will care little for your concern. Truth is it might inspire them to use it more frequently.
 
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i do not want to offend you in any way ..... but really ???? you show a woman respect in all ways .. when it come to playing then what she wants is all the more fun .. but i sooo do not agree calling woman a ho or anything like that in a mall or anywhere no matter the race of the man or the woman is just not right .. this is one of the reasons we are having many issues in race and sex .... far to many are excusing the words and acts of others based on sex and race ..just my 2 cents ....again no hate towards you at all
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I often respond to comments to my posts. What to say to you who repeatedly say you wish not to offend. Then you sate your opinion of how women should be treated. I agree my comment was only about conversations I heard. At no time did I say a was in favor of anyone calling a female a Ho or ho’s .

Making me wonder why you write as if I’m in favor of that common practice.
 
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Just read your first sentence and my immediate response is, what world do you live in? Women talk to women in a different manner than they talk to men and vice versa. If you think that white people speak the same about blacks when there a no blacks around, I'll correct you on that. As I don't have a prominent black dialect, I can't tell you how man times I've had white people, especially on conference calls, start telling me about "what a hassle it is trying not to affront black people," or better yet, "let me tell you a joke, and it includes the "N" word." I'll finish reading your post, but it sets any racial conversation off on the wrong foot when a white person begins by telling me that my thinking and my experiences--instances that you will never experience--are "racist" to them. Back to your post..
 
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artgirl said:
I read your response with interest. You say Often, whites will say, "black people use this term or that term all of the time." That doesn't make it right for whites to use those phrases. Whites do the same, and it doesn't make it okay for blacks to use their terminology. “ Seems like a racist statement to me. How is that any different from one race can eat here but the other cant. Language is colorblind all should be able to use it.

Consider that those words ho and ho’s are used so often . Is all that rap music containing them only for blacks. Used frequently now in motion pictures are those films only for blacks . Every person hearing those terms is a possible future user of them. I merely pointed out how I first heard those phrases . I got a simple explanation of what I overheard without the vulgar side but I was only nine at the time.

I’m older now and I realize that even though used in slang Ho ho’s : Floosy, *******, someone who dresses like a floosy. Can be used teasingly, One definition, It also says it is slang for WHORE hard to make a complement out of that word if you go by the definition.

From my point of view neither white or black males should use it even as a descriptor as I heard it by both the older men of my youth or the teens in the food court. Talking so loud all could hear and none of the others mostly other races knocked any teeth out. It was clear by the conversation they meant no disrespect to those mostly teen girls they directed those phrases at. So the audience behaved rather well had one red neck been there with his shooter how different it could have been.

I take exception to your assumption that if you used a ethnic phrase you would find your teeth on the floor. True if you used it in a hateful way or in a situation you describe where you were unknown you’d have as good a chance as anyone to look for your teeth. If you were known a friend surly you would be safe. I think of one of our swinger groups a rainbow colors. The men being men always busting the other balls. Two of the five black men were very vocal calling one guy a wap another a grease-er even one commonly called the old jew. They responded with spook or darkie or some other word or phrase that had nothing to do with race. No one ever got punched. Because they were friends not strangers.

Saddened by your description of black brothers using the phrase to describe a female then having to apologize upon learning that was a sister of another. Indicating the use of it was wrong or disrespectful unless one actually knew the female spoken of. A impression it’s fine to say that crap about others who aren’t known to those in the conversation. How is that different from the white you have difficulty with. Again you want that privilege exclusively and have a problem with other races doing the exact same thing.

I would hope that anyone viewing a clip or hearing a conversation would consider the intention behind it. Was it done in humor to get clicks or disrespect or even hate. That is the time to react eliminating words to any group by color to me is wrong. Ammunition for the race baiters, they will say see they don’t want to be equal they want special privileges. In this case phrases that only we can use. To late for this one I think. It’s been used openly for too long. People of all colors are using it. Most as a descriptor. Those who do it in hate you know will care little for your concern. Truth is it might inspire them to use it more frequently.
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I respect you opinion. I just believe it's extremely naive to think that ALL ethnicities, and ALL races do not have words they use among themselves that are off limits to those outside of their race or ethnicity (unless ALL in the particular group are comfortable with it). I've had white women, with whom I have been friends and lovers, feel comfortable enough to let the "N" word slip off their tongue ("N" please!). I've had to check them on it and let them know, do not use that word around me again. We're still cool, still make love, but I won't let them call me that term--just because we're close. And yes, I been in groups of blacks, even family members, who use that same term and I don't check them on it. Why? Because I know their experiences and their use of that term is something that the white woman I'm sleeping with will NEVER fully understand and appreciate. Do I hate the term? Yes. Is there a white person walking on this planet that I wouldn't check for using that same term? No. Have I made the same mistakes? Yes. I dated an Italian woman, on and off, for a 10 year period. One evening I went to her apartment and said, "how's my Da-o lover doing tonight?" She gave me a look that sent a shiver down my spine! "What did you just call me!?" "What did you just say!?" Immediately, I knew I had hurt her more than anything else I had done in our 10 years of love and friendship. Why? Because I didn't, and more importantly, couldn't, understand the pain and anger those words conjured up within her.
In a perfect world, yes we would understand this and avoid it at all costs. Sadly, that world has NEVER existed, nor will it in all generations to come.
Therein lies one of the differences between you and I. This has never been anything close to a "perfect world" or even "nice world" for black people. The vast majority of whites have no idea as to what blacks experience day in, and day out. To portray this as "I want permission to be able to use special words that you can't," is putting in simplistic terms. One last example from less than a year ago. I just bought a new Porsche, and asked the dealership to put the front license plate bracket onto the vehicle before I drove it home. I would put the license plate into the bracket once it arrived from the DMV. They looked at me like I had a third eye in my head. "What?" "Are you sure?" "Why would you want to place that bracket on the front end of this beautiful car?" I responded, "because it's the law." "Isn't everyone required to have both a front and rear plate?" They chuckled and said, "Sure...but the police understand, and they don't pull over Porsches, Bentley's, etc., for not having front license plates." "Just keep it with you, and you'll be fine." I thought to myself, the very last thing I need is another reason for an officer to be able to pull me over and put me through gyrations that the average white person never experiences. I drove away thinking, "it must be nice to live in the world they live in." Have you ever, for even one moment, looked at your life and wondered how different your world is from that of others? I sincerely doubt it.
Not upset or angry with you. We just come at this subject from two different angles and sets of experiences. If you're open to discussing it more, let me know. We can do it here, or I can give you my email. Don't know where you live, and not looking for a hook-up. Just think we're talking past each other and if time permitted, we'd see we're really not that far apart in our thinking.
 
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First off I have never nor will I ever use such a negative term to discribe a lady of colour. I don’t even like to use the term bull. These terms degrade not only the other people but me as well. It is a sign of a poorly educated person that an the fact in my family such terms would / will get you a smack in the head from both my parents and my god parents.

one of my great grandmothers was from South Africa and of colour.
 
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re: White Guys Like To Call Black Women, "Ho's?"​


I'm not totally sure, but been around a while, and I recall it was females who originated using that slang word with their female friends. It was initially intended as a "respectful" way of saying a girlfriend was "putting out" or acting risqué. Of course it morphed a bit over time and now its used more as a buffer word for flat out calling a girl a whore. But many girls, mostly the single ones, these days tend to be proud of having a broad sexual appetite plus girls still use it among themselves with their girlfriends. I don't recall that word only specifically used by/about only black women.
 
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SanDiegoBlack said:
Check out Sean on the thread, "What White Guys Like To Watch." Post after post of denigrating comments towards Black Women. And people wonder, "why aren't there more black women on this site?" Sean will provide you a real world view of what many White Men think of Back Women. What if the tables were turned, and we Black men started calling all white women "Ho's," simply because they're white?
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Not sure what a ho's is but you can call me it simply because I'm white. If you wish. ;)
 
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artgirl said:
I often respond to comments to my posts. What to say to you who repeatedly say you wish not to offend. Then you sate your opinion of how women should be treated. I agree my comment was only about conversations I heard. At no time did I say a was in favor of anyone calling a female a Ho or ho’s .

Making me wonder why you write as if I’m in favor of that common practice.
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i did not repeatedly use the word offend . i stated it twice in the begining and at the end of my post. . in todays world any word seems to offend someone so i was making sure it was known this was not my intent . as for my post it was not meant to infer to your opinion . it just my opinion .
 
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SanDiegoBlack said:
Check out Sean on the thread, "What White Guys Like To Watch." Post after post of denigrating comments towards Black Women. And people wonder, "why aren't there more black women on this site?" Sean will provide you a real world view of what many White Men think of Back Women. What if the tables were turned, and we Black men started calling all white women "Ho's," simply because they're white?
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You do know that a lot of black women are into that *******. It’s called Raceplay. And they get off on white guys calling them all kinds of slanderous terms. The N-Word is included.
 
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