Hot Summer in the City Movie Review and Commentaries (Interracial abduction flick)

At movie's end, did you believe Duke and/or Debby had developed feelings for the other?


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I find this film to be wrong on so many levels, yet so arousing at the same time. Very conflicted, because it touches on many deep things in our psyche.

Are there more films like this? Do talk about them on this forum!
Angelyn, I know exactly how you feel!!! I hate violence and would never hurt a fly, and am disturbed by the fact I find this film so erotic and so compelling. What i think draws so many people in to the movie is the interracial taboos that existed at the time the movie was made and time period it was set in (1967), and how Debby began to seemingly fall in love with her captor, Duke (and vice versa). I loved how Duke seemed to begin to soften his attitude and become more humane, while Debby seemed drawn in by Duke's idealogical cause. Would have loved a sequel that would have continued exploring their relationship, delving into whether Duke became more of a peace activist, or Debby became drawn in like Patty Hearst, wanting to fight for the cause of Black Liberation?
 
I find this film to be wrong on so many levels, yet so arousing at the same time. Very conflicted, because it touches on many deep things in our psyche.

Are there more films like this? Do talk about them on this forum!
Oh in terms of other movies, there is a Rated R movie called "Abduction" that was made in 1975 where a pretty rich white girl is kidnapped by a gang of Revolutionaries led by a Black man and the girl falls in love with their leader later on after he rapes her. It's based almost entirely on the Patty Hearst saga, but uses characters from a 1972 book titled "Black Abductor." A great read btw!
 
Oh in terms of other movies, there is a Rated R movie called "Abduction" that was made in 1975 where a pretty rich white girl is kidnapped by a gang of Revolutionaries led by a Black man and the girl falls in love with their leader later on after he rapes her. It's based almost entirely on the Patty Hearst saga, but uses characters from a 1972 book titled "Black Abductor." A great read btw!

I can find it on Wikipedia, but not on any torrenting site. Someone put the first 10 minutes on youtube, which is intriguing but leaves us wanting more.
The closest other I can find is the Abduction of Lorelei, 1977, which seems to have similar themes but isn't interracial.

I'm a bigger fan of humiliation and power dynamics, rather than violence. I am not turned on by the prospect of being beaten, and certainly very turned off by the threat of being stabbed, like what went on in this film Hot Summer. I am the type of woman who does not watch horror movies because ******* and gore don't thrill me.

However there are some very arousing moments too. I just loved that random moment when Shorty just lifted Debby's skirt and started feeling her pussy and making demeaning comments.

If I were at a sex party or retreat, that would be exactly what I wanted as well. The guys should take liberties with me. They should not hesitate to be sexually aggressive, and paw me over and poke around as I walk around serving them in my maid uniform or bikini or whatever that is fun and signals submission. There should be no warning, so I am caught by surprise and have to tolerate the stimulation while trying to pour their drinks with steady hands. If I do spill, I would like to be firmly punished, either by wiping the table with my apron, or by being taken by the head/ neck and made to lap up all the spilled drinks.
 
Let's be honest. The movie (Hot Summer in the City) is interesting because it was quite ambitious in the 1970s but ImO it is not a good movie. :| A shallow one-sided script is put into action by amateurs who are neither actors nor porn performers. The director's intent at least is very clear. - It's about making a porn, not a movie that tells a story. Unfortunately. It could have been both rolled into one. But it isn't. (Maybe that asks for a Tarantino to direct a remake?)

The main character Debbie (portrayed by Lisa Baker) doesn't show much of an emotional spectrum, instead she just flashes her nipples at any shot. However it isn't good porn either. The male "actors" are clearly having problems with even getting erections, and the "violent" scenes are laughable (maybe with the exception of the "hen-fight" scene).

But i am sure with good actors and a good director it could have been something worth watching. - Although putting a portion of fantasy in from the spectator's side is also helpful. ;)
 
Angelyn, I love how your mind works, if you have such an experience at sex retreat please let us know! As for the Abduction movie, there is a Moment at the end of the movie where Patricia, the white girl, offers her complete submission sexually to the leader of the gang And it is a torrid interracial scene you would love :) As for the movie Hot Summer in the City, like you I loved the softer, more humiliation oriented aspects of how Debby was treated. For example I loved the moment when Duke lifted up Debby' dress so the gang members could see what "white ass" looks like. I also love the way Coke lorded over her and bossed her around making her clean the kitchen and cook them dinner in her torn dress. That simple scene in the kitchen was just so erotic to me for some reason:)
 
HSIC falls into a certain genre of porn. I'm trying to think of the name -- is it Grindhouse? Rough something? They made quite a few movies like this. HSIC is the most memorable one, though.
 
Angelyn, I love how your mind works, if you have such an experience at sex retreat please let us know! As for the Abduction movie, there is a Moment at the end of the movie where Patricia, the white girl, offers her complete submission sexually to the leader of the gang And it is a torrid interracial scene you would love :) As for the movie Hot Summer in the City, like you I loved the softer, more humiliation oriented aspects of how Debby was treated. For example I loved the moment when Duke lifted up Debby' dress so the gang members could see what "white ass" looks like. I also love the way Coke lorded over her and bossed her around making her clean the kitchen and cook them dinner in her torn dress. That simple scene in the kitchen was just so erotic to me for some reason:)


It's the content of this film that is good.

As another forum member put it above, it is a very poor movie otherwise. The black 'studs' are small and have soft erections and are totally worse than most of the black men I have been with. The acting sucks. Many lines sound read out rather than genuinely felt. Even the racial animosity doesn't feel real, which is a surprise given that this film was done in Detroit during a period of increasing tension just before major riots.

I would give this film a 1 out of 10. Except the content; it so hits our hidden, sensitive areas of the psyche.

Many women find food preparation a semi-sexual foreplay thing. A lot more could have been done to up the eroticism. But the very fact that she is preparing food for her new masters, already has much stored potential. If I were the director, I would have the men gangbang her with food items like sausages and bananas and eggplants, after which Debby would have to use the same items in the food. All this violation is very erotic to me because it is both humiliating and also a demonstration of power. The men have total control of Debby's holes, even in the kitchen where women normally reign, and her pleasure is entirely at their mercy.

As a woman I find male 'competence and confidence' very important. It's a turn off if the guy comes to my place but does not know how to use kitchen basics, such as a juicer. If you don't know something, don't make a fool of yourself. Make yourself at home on the couch and order me to serve me like a real alpha.
 
I agree, it's the content. As far as critiquing HSIC as a film, I have to go easy on it and judge it in the context of the era it comes from. It's a 1970s porno and can't be compared to anything we see today. Back then, pornos had plots. Scripts were written and at least some level of acting was required. Budgets were low. These movies were shot on film by a crew that barely knew how to make a movie. The look of most of these films is generally pretty crappy. Which is why we need a remake.

As for the cast, there's definitely something about Debby. She seems innocent and real -- not at all like a porn actress. The men leave something to be desired, but so did most male porn actors of that time. The Black woman was hot. I would have enjoyed seeing her getting oral service from Debby.

Setting all the flaws aside, the content was very stimulating. The moment where Duke is taking Debby in bed and she turns -- he gets to her and she can't resist him -- that's the best moment for me. Our sweet Debby, engaged (I think) to a white guy, has fallen for her Black captor.
 
It's the content of this film that is good.

As another forum member put it above, it is a very poor movie otherwise. The black 'studs' are small and have soft erections and are totally worse than most of the black men I have been with. The acting sucks. Many lines sound read out rather than genuinely felt. Even the racial animosity doesn't feel real, which is a surprise given that this film was done in Detroit during a period of increasing tension just before major riots.

I would give this film a 1 out of 10. Except the content; it so hits our hidden, sensitive areas of the psyche.

Many women find food preparation a semi-sexual foreplay thing. A lot more could have been done to up the eroticism. But the very fact that she is preparing food for her new masters, already has much stored potential. If I were the director, I would have the men gangbang her with food items like sausages and bananas and eggplants, after which Debby would have to use the same items in the food. All this violation is very erotic to me because it is both humiliating and also a demonstration of power. The men have total control of Debby's holes, even in the kitchen where women normally reign, and her pleasure is entirely at their mercy.

As a woman I find male 'competence and confidence' very important. It's a turn off if the guy comes to my place but does not know how to use kitchen basics, such as a juicer. If you don't know something, don't make a fool of yourself. Make yourself at home on the couch and order me to serve me like a real alpha.
Angelyn, Good comments and can see where you are coming from. I will address where i agree and disagree with you after I've had time to think, but have to ask: You said you would give the film a 1 out 10 rating but the content raises it. Where on a scale of 1 to 10 would you put this movie when you factor in the content?
 
It's the content of this film that is good.

As another forum member put it above, it is a very poor movie otherwise. The black 'studs' are small and have soft erections and are totally worse than most of the black men I have been with. The acting sucks. Many lines sound read out rather than genuinely felt. Even the racial animosity doesn't feel real, which is a surprise given that this film was done in Detroit during a period of increasing tension just before major riots.

I would give this film a 1 out of 10. Except the content; it so hits our hidden, sensitive areas of the psyche.

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As far as the content goes, i would say the plot, maybe with only few little changes, could be something worth a remake. i know this is a sex forum and the movie is actually porn, so many people here will say what hot sex scenes can be added. But i think it will only make a valuable movie remake if the characters are better developed with actors who actually show in a convincing manner what goes on in the figure's minds and where they are coming from. It has potential for some interesting psycho-social twists on many levels.
 
HSIC falls into a certain genre of porn. I'm trying to think of the name -- is it Grindhouse? Rough something? They made quite a few movies like this. HSIC is the most memorable one, though.
Both of those terms could apply, to me the closest description would be to analogize the film to an X-rated "Blaxploitation " genre of film, especially given it was done in the 1970s.
 
It's the content of this film that is good.

As another forum member put it above, it is a very poor movie otherwise. The black 'studs' are small and have soft erections and are totally worse than most of the black men I have been with. The acting sucks. Many lines sound read out rather than genuinely felt. Even the racial animosity doesn't feel real, which is a surprise given that this film was done in Detroit during a period of increasing tension just before major riots.

I would give this film a 1 out of 10. Except the content; it so hits our hidden, sensitive areas of the psyche.

Many women find food preparation a semi-sexual foreplay thing. A lot more could have been done to up the eroticism. But the very fact that she is preparing food for her new masters, already has much stored potential. If I were the director, I would have the men gangbang her with food items like sausages and bananas and eggplants, after which Debby would have to use the same items in the food. All this violation is very erotic to me because it is both humiliating and also a demonstration of power. The men have total control of Debby's holes, even in the kitchen where women normally reign, and her pleasure is entirely at their mercy.

As a woman I find male 'competence and confidence' very important. It's a turn off if the guy comes to my place but does not know how to use kitchen basics, such as a juicer. If you don't know something, don't make a fool of yourself. Make yourself at home on the couch and order me to serve me like a real alpha.
I agree that there are individual moments where the lines feel rehearsed and the acting comes across as sub par- One example being where Duke and Jody are arguing about Duke "taking the honky chick" to his bed ("But Baby, we've been through so much together." Jody pleads). Even Lisa Baker, whose performance as Debby I thought otherwise to be brilliant, seemed to faulter when she gets out of the gang's car- specifically I felt she acted more pouty and mad that she didn't get a kiss first before being raped, than genuinely scared and upset about it. However, I thought overal the gang's animosity towards whites came across as very real, but was perhaps best exhibited by Jody. You could literally feel her rage and jealously when she roughly finger fucked poor, helpless Debby at knifepoint, and Debby powerfully conveyed emotions of horror, pain, and despair as she endured her last trial. Kudos as well to the actor who played Shorty ("I'm going to fill this honky's belly with some Black Power."), whose sadistic ******* of Debby I also found very difficult to watch for the realism conveyed. Finally, loved your suggestion for Debby's being tormented in the kitchen with food, that would have been a very erotic additional element:) Feel free to give more ideas like that, you never know, perhaps Quinten Terentino might read this thread and feel inspired to do a remake:)
 
As far as the content goes, i would say the plot, maybe with only few little changes, could be something worth a remake. i know this is a sex forum and the movie is actually porn, so many people here will say what hot sex scenes can be added. But i think it will only make a valuable movie remake if the characters are better developed with actors who actually show in a convincing manner what goes on in the figure's minds and where they are coming from. It has potential for some interesting psycho-social twists on many levels.
Absolutely agree with you on character development being the most component in any HSIC remake. What makes HSIC so memorable is the potential it shows for being an actual movie, into which a lot of hot sex and compelling drama could be placed. The Stockholm Syndrome infused sexual chemistry and feelings of love that seemed to be developing between Debby and Duke had enormous potential. Does Duke decide to put down his guns and be more of a peace activist upon meeting Debby, or does Debby go full blown Patty Hearst and pick up a gun to advance the cause of Black Liberation, fueled by feelings of love for Duke and his loving indoctrination of her into the movement? How does that dynamic playout as the couple heads towards that planned moment designed to trigger the Race War, and what was their level of participation in the July 1967 race riots in Detroit? The storylines have so much potential for someone to work on! ?
 
Angelyn, Good comments and can see where you are coming from. I will address where i agree and disagree with you after I've had time to think, but have to ask: You said you would give the film a 1 out 10 rating but the content raises it. Where on a scale of 1 to 10 would you put this movie when you factor in the content?

I don't factor in the content precisely because I have such mixed feelings about this film. As I said, it is wrong on so many levels, yet it demands my attention.

Like almost all women, I have fantasies about being taken by *******. But the man or men in my fantasies are always really powerful and dominant. They don't need to bring out guns and knives to assert their dominance. If you need a shotgun to be dominant, then I would be an alpha male too, as long as I am the only one with a gun.

I can't endorse this content, as much as it arouses me. You're talking about a bunch of black terrorist/ losers here, not an Obama, a Martin Luther King, or a Lex Steele. In general I am not turned on by petty crooks kidnapping women.
 
I don't factor in the content precisely because I have such mixed feelings about this film. As I said, it is wrong on so many levels, yet it demands my attention.

Like almost all women, I have fantasies about being taken by *******. But the man or men in my fantasies are always really powerful and dominant. They don't need to bring out guns and knives to assert their dominance. If you need a shotgun to be dominant, then I would be an alpha male too, as long as I am the only one with a gun.

I can't endorse this content, as much as it arouses me. You're talking about a bunch of black terrorist/ losers here, not an Obama, a Martin Luther King, or a Lex Steele. In general I am not turned on by petty crooks kidnapping women.
I see your point on the gun, yet in the end it was only used to save Debby's life. Duke seized Debby without any weapons, albeit with the help of Stitch. Like you, I abhor violence and would never condone these actions in real life, yet the fictional scenario of whether a Stockholm Syndrome scenario could be the initial foundation of a couple's finding true love is a atory I find compelling. Sexually the only scene that works for me from an erotic standpoint is when Duke takes Debby to bed and through a most tender forcefullness, wins for himself Debby's willing submission to his advances, that enables Debby to have a deeply fulfilling, sexual encounter with Duke. Indeed, despite the bad footage, the creaminess of Lisa Baker's pussy shows she was really into the scene. It's my favorite sex scene of all time, despite the bad filming and music score it contains.
 
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