Early Stages of the Journey

Hello, I'm new to this forum and the lifestyle. We are both in our 20s and have a baby together. I wanted to seek the advice of other couples on a few roadblocks I'm seeing:

I recently divulged my fantasy to her, well the first time in detail. She wasnt repulsed, just generally curious. We watched some videos together and she role played a scenario with an imaginary bull. It was incredibly hot and relieving to have this out in the open and to hear her say such things. I should add she was quite creative with it and hit all my "fantasy buttons", some of which I never told her about.

But, She doesn't like to humiliate me, or have the other person replace me sexually, as she respects me and she genuinely does enjoy our sex together. I can make her cum every time with penetration. So she doesnt have a innate desire for more. I'm okay with this and I dont want to lose this respect. I do fantasy about hardcore humiliation and her/her bull completely disrespecting me. But realistically, I dont want that.

She also doesn't enjoy porn, she gets off on erotic tales, fanfics or gifs at most. She was curious about the videos but it didnt do anything for her. I expected this since most women arent as visually oriented as men. But it makes alot the advice I see on this forum for "How to make a bbc hotwife" unhelpful.

Lastly, she has never been into dildos. I bought a large black dildo. And it just intimidated her and made her laugh at the idea of it fitting inside her. Lol she does want to peg me so it won't go to waste. I haven't used it on her yet, and I dont want to push it on her. She's never had anyone that big. But she has had bigger than me but, she said the guy(s) wasnt a good lover and she was left with the impression "guys with big dicks rely too much on their size".

Tl;dr Wanting to work our way into the lifestyle. My wife isnt into porn, curious about my fantasy, enjoys our sex life and doesnt seem to want anyone else. Not the worst situation by any means, but I don't know how to go from here without it just being a "my husband wants this so I guess I'll try it". I want a situation that genuinely mutual so that she doesnt think of it as just a way to keep me happy. All in all, it just feels like I'm saying "no actually you DO want more than me, you just dont know it yet"...

I appreciate any and all advice or anecdotes.
 
After years of fantasizing, I've been actually cuckolded and I can tell you that you're starting off OK. There's really only three rules so far as I'm concerned:
1.) Do NOT Pressure her to do ANYTHING.
2.) Be honest. You're basically talking about an arrangement where black men will basically be outsourced to handle your woman's sexual desires. There's going to need to be complete honesty and transparency.
3.) Do NOT Pressure her to do ANYTHING.
 
After years of fantasizing, I've been actually cuckolded and I can tell you that you're starting off OK. There's really only three rules so far as I'm concerned:
1.) Do NOT Pressure her to do ANYTHING.
2.) Be honest. You're basically talking about an arrangement where black men will basically be outsourced to handle your woman's sexual desires. There's going to need to be complete honesty and transparency.
3.) Do NOT Pressure her to do ANYTHING.
Thank you for the advice. I am going to have to work on being 100% transparent because it's still hard to vocalize my desires. I start getting ashamed of what I'm saying and hold back.

Also, I am noticing from alot of people on here that forsing the fantasy or bbc hookups, led to the relationship falling apart. I don't want that at all, and I can continue to keep it to myself if I have to.

Was your SO into the idea initially?
 
I've spoken to lots of men like you and the general impression i get is they bang on this door for yeaaaaaars before wifey takes it seriously.

i dont have any advice for you other than to trust her when she says she's not interested. there isnt an 'I want it but dont know it', subconscious thought going through her head. this wishful thinking is on your part, I'm afraid.

sometimes, its just about her waking up one day and finding herself in a situation where she just says fuck it and does it. and her decision might not even be about all the years you tried to persuade her, but about something she felt at that moment with someone unexpected.
 
Best advice is that if your relationship isn't near perfect, with total openness and honesty between you, be prepared for problems. We were lucky as we started down this road after having recently met, and we were tested at times but nothing that ended up being serious. It is not like the movies, and many claims of "real" events here, and every other site, are really fantasies. Your relationship will likely be tested, so make sure you are not lying to yourselves about how strong it really is.
 
Same in our relationship, we had been together for about 8 mths, and previous relationships got bought up, she knew one of my ex partners, who had a bit of a reputation for being a little outrageous and asked what our relationship was like, I was in 2 minds whether to be honest with her, as it was this ex that I had my first experience of having another male join in with sex. But she was insistent, so I told her about the first time when it happened. She wasn't shocked but did say "don't ever expect me to do that" and to be honest, it had not crossed my mind, it had been a few yrs ago, and to me just memories of a wild era in my life. Over the next few months, she bought it up several times when we fucked, asking me what we had done, I explained how it happened the first time, we had been out drinking with a male friend of mine, ending up in a club till the early hours, my ex had been dancing with both me and my friend separately, and I mentioned to her that they looked good on the dance floor and was glad she got on with my friend, she said something about knowing my friend was enjoying it for sure, and I asked how she knew, and she said she could feel his cock hard when he pressed into her. Anyway long story short, by the end of the night, I had my first mmf.
She asked if other women had been involved and I said my ex had been with females but I had only watched them, she said "she didn't think she could watch me fucking other women, as she would be jealous". I was honest and said that I preferred watching my partner getting fucked with minimal involvement. Like I said she kept bringing it up, especially when we was fucking and I said to her one night, you seem a bit curious about this, and she admitted she liked the thought of 2 men sharing her body, I was taken back a little, but not surprised. Was shocked to the core when in the next sentence she said especially if it was a black male♠️ that was 8 yes ago, and we still enjoy the occasional night and had a lot of amazing times🤪
 
Same in our relationship, we had been together for about 8 mths, and previous relationships got bought up, she knew one of my ex partners, who had a bit of a reputation for being a little outrageous and asked what our relationship was like, I was in 2 minds whether to be honest with her, as it was this ex that I had my first experience of having another male join in with sex. But she was insistent, so I told her about the first time when it happened. She wasn't shocked but did say "don't ever expect me to do that" and to be honest, it had not crossed my mind, it had been a few yrs ago, and to me just memories of a wild era in my life. Over the next few months, she bought it up several times when we fucked, asking me what we had done, I explained how it happened the first time, we had been out drinking with a male friend of mine, ending up in a club till the early hours, my ex had been dancing with both me and my friend separately, and I mentioned to her that they looked good on the dance floor and was glad she got on with my friend, she said something about knowing my friend was enjoying it for sure, and I asked how she knew, and she said she could feel his cock hard when he pressed into her. Anyway long story short, by the end of the night, I had my first mmf.
She asked if other women had been involved and I said my ex had been with females but I had only watched them, she said "she didn't think she could watch me fucking other women, as she would be jealous". I was honest and said that I preferred watching my partner getting fucked with minimal involvement. Like I said she kept bringing it up, especially when we was fucking and I said to her one night, you seem a bit curious about this, and she admitted she liked the thought of 2 men sharing her body, I was taken back a little, but not surprised. Was shocked to the core when in the next sentence she said especially if it was a black male♠️ that was 8 yes ago, and we still enjoy the occasional night and had a lot of amazing times🤪
it appears U have a exciting life, or should i say ur wife has quite a thrilling life. id love 2 read more
 
When I met my wife she had never given or received oral sex, had never used a toy, hadn’t had an orgasm etc. A pretty sheltered Catholic girl growing up. But I had my fantasy and I was determined. I told her about it when we were engaged. She wasn’t disgusted or think I was a weirdo, but said it wasn’t her fantasy.

She said she hated porn and would not watch it. I brought an IR sex video home and she said “I’m NOT WATCHING THAT!!!” I said, “I know, didn’t say you were. I’m going to go watch it by myself. After a few minutes she came in, was nervous, made jokes about their clothing, I started rubbing her pussy and she came while watching it. She has been resistant to it 90% of the time. But if I was persistent and could get her heated up then she loved and got off on IR porn. Fucking Catholic guilt.

First toy I brought home was a hard plastic off white one. “No! Im not using that. I don’t need it, I don’t want it, blah blah blah.” She was saying no until I touched it to her pussy, went from no to “Oh” in less than a second then a powerful orgasm within 20 seconds. Toys have never been a problem since. However, after using that first one for a while my wife asked me to get a softer one. Saw my opening and went and bought a very large, black life like rubber vibrator. When I showed it to her she say, “NO WAY, NOT EVEN, ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? No way that will fit.” I told her “come on like the other one, this is just for fun. I’ll use tons of lube, I’ll go really slow, it will be fine. I used lots of lube, I went very slow, while rubbing her clit and whispering dirty things in her ear about the black guy fucking her tight wet married pussy. She came like a volcano. She was a mess afterwards. Her body was shaking, she was panting, and she even had tears coming out of her eyes. She was so overcome with emotions.

Try my approach on your wife, “let’s just play around and have some fun, I’ll use lots of lube, go really slow it will be a good time I promise. Just make sure she is getting some stimulation of her clit while you are doing it.

Also, there are plenty of IR stories out there. Maybe that would work. There’s also a bunch of different videos, just try some soft core porn with that theme while you play with her.
 
Here’s something quick I pulled together for some other post. Feel free to edit to your wife’s tastes:

A middle class white husband, Dan, begs his faithful, loving wife Stephanie to have sex with a well hung black man, but she resists big time. Dan continues to pressure his wife, to the point where he tells Stephanie that her refusal may jeopardize their 15 year marriage. Stephanie loves her husband so much and it would crush her for their marriage to end, so she very reluctantly agrees to go through with it. She’s sad, and nervous and scared. She’s also upset at Dan for making her do something she believes is morally wrong. Stephanie has only been with one man to that point, her husband Dan.

Stephanie is a very attractive soccer mom type, and because of her religious upbringing she has always dressed conservatively. Dan is also the only man to see her naked, and he knows how damn lucky he is. Stephanie’s breasts are firm and round, a beautiful 34D. She’s 5’5” with beautiful smooth legs that end at her cute, round bubble ass. Her pubic hair is neatly trimmed with her gently used pussy lips barely protrude from her tight curls. Her hole is tight because her very small dicked husband is the only “man” she has ever been with. Although small and tight, when Stephanie gets sexually aroused her pussy gets surprisingly soaked.

Dan very discreetly, very carefully approached their 8 year old *******’s basketball coach. Coach Les Green is in his mid thirties, 6’6” and very well built. A former college basketball player himself, Les fondly recalls the white girls at his college, coming over to his dorm any time he called them, offering up their sweet tight pussys for him to fuck. After college Les met his wife Rhonda and settled down to have *******.

Les smiled as Dan awkwardly went about explaining his situation. Les could have cut him off and let him know he understood exactly what he wanted, but he preferred hearing this pathetic, wimpy husband explain how he was handing over his beautiful, angelic wife to a guy that would fuck Stephanie senseless and make her crave his big cock from that point forward. Les didn’t have to think twice about it. While he stared at this blathering idiot continue to lay out his plan, Les could only think about how he missed fucking white girls. But even more exciting he was going to be fucking a white guy’s wife. A woman who was beautiful, innocent, and clearly had never been fucked hard by a real man. Les one time caught Stephanie bending over to pick up her *******’s bag, and her old, loose fitting T shirt fell away from her body exposing her beautiful 34D breasts through the neckline.

Les asked Dan before the meetup if he should bring protection because after his 3rd kid was born he got snipped. Dan said that Stephanie was on the pill so he would let Les decide. This was music to his ears. He wanted to feel skin on skin as he squeezed his big cock into Stephanie’s tight, wet, married pussy.

Strangely enough, Stephanie didn’t even ask, or care to ask what black man Dan had set up to fuck her. She didn’t care, it didn’t matter because she was just plain sick over the whole idea regardless if it was a 400 pound bus driver with body odor or Denzel Washington. But when Dan and Stephanie walked into the hotel room where Coach Les was already sitting on the couch she freaked out. “Dan you ******* of a bitch, Coach Les is Taylor’s coach!” Coach Les was shocked and pissed as well, “Dan you never told me that Stephanie didn’t know I would be the guy!” Dan apologized to both. But he reminded them, “Stephanie you agreed to go through with this because of how badly I wanted this. None of that has changed. And you know coach Les, he’s a good guy, he’s a nice man, and look at him, he’s good looking and is in amazing shape.” Stephanie had to admit that Dan could have done much worse. Coach Les was a good man, who she knew, and he wasn’t a creep. Plus, she had to admit that even though she never dated or thought of dating a black man, he was sexy. He had a dominant nature which she liked, and he oozed confidence and swagger. Weeks earlier she was bringing something out to her car during practice and found herself walking behind two other mothers who were engrossed in a conversation. Before she could get their attention to say hello, one of the mothers said to the other, “Oh my god, Coach Green is so hot, and I’m embarrassed to admit but at one practice last week he had on some clingy sweat pants and I could see the outline of his massive cock!” The other mom replied, “Yeah I saw that too. I enjoyed myself quite a bit that night thinking about riding on that monster.” Stephanie was embarrassed and a bit disgusted at the time because Les was their *******’s coach and each woman was married. But that memory now made her glance down at Les’s crotch for the first time, and now she too knew what the women were talking about.

Dan turned towards Les, “And you coach Les, you couldn’t wait to jump at the opportunity to fuck Stephanie, could you? Have your desires for Stephanie changed.” He looked her up and down lustfully before saying, “No not at all.” His eyes met hers as he smiled a confident smile. This caught Stephanie off guard. She thought to herself, “Coach Les is attracted to me? He wants to .... <gulp> fuck me?” This was unfamiliar territory even as a familiar wetness started to drench her tight pussy. Her brain raced... a man other than her husband wanted to fuck her, and not just any man a black, very well endowed man. If Stephanie just focused on the dimensions of Les’s cock, and realized how unprepared her tight little pussy was given her husband’s four inch dick, she would have been pretty frightened. But that fact was just another juicy, naughty detail for her to ponder with the situation.

“Stephanie,” Dan asked “Do you want to take off your own clothes or have Les take them off?” She gulped before replying with a cracking voice, “He can remove them.” Les didn’t need a second prompt, he immediately moved close to her, stared in her eyes, then leaned in and kissed her neck as his hands slid down and squeezed that tight, round ass of hers. Stephanie moaned as her brain worked overtime. It felt so amazing, so different to have another mans lips and hands on me, but how can this be right? He’s not my husband, I swore to forsake all others in my marital vows.

Les leaned back from Stephanie and slowly started to remove her top, exposing those perfect, heaving white breasts that her bra strained to contain. Her nipples were hard as diamonds. After Les threw her shirt on the ground he used his fingers to brush across her breasts, then gently squeezing her engorged nipples. Stephanie groaned and her body shook a little as electricity and excitement coursed through her body. He took off her bra and started to suck slowly but powerfully on her breasts. Stephanie could just close her eyes with her lips quivering. “This is still so wrong” she thought.

Les was incredibly turned on. He didn’t want to go slow any more so he leaned in and kissed Stephanie deeply on the mouth as he removed her sweatpants and panties at the same time. Stephanie was naked except for the log jam at her ankles where her shoes were blocking the removal of her clothes. She quickly worked to get her shoes off and when she was naked she quietly sat down on the bed facing Les. Like she was getting a front row seat for the “unveiling.” He quickly threw off his shirt exposing his strong, muscular upper body, highlighted by his well defined six pack abs. Stephanie mouth gaped open and her breathing and heart rate quickened as her eyes fully took in his Adonis-like upper body, and imagined it on top of her, pinning her delicate white frame to the bed. Now Les wanted to move a bit slowly for the main event. He slowly started to pull down his sweats and underwear exposing at first the thick base of his very impressive cock. He smiled as he realized that Stephanie gaze was fixed exclusively on the slow reveal of his cock. When he finally slid his clothes below his knees he could see Stephanie swallow hard and quietly she murmured, “Oh my god.”

Her eyes locked on to his cock were like a very effective fluffer. His cock started to harden and get erect on its own. That was a first for Les, who grabbed it and gently stroked it to quicken the preparation. Stephanie’s eyes grew wide as she watched his cock grow into a cock she couldn’t even comprehend given the meager size of Dan’s. Now normally every porn, and every encounter Dan had had since college involved the woman he was with giving him head before he fucked them. It felt good and got his cock hard and ready for conquest. But this time? His cock was already fully hard and even throbbing anticipating the pending loss of Stephanie’s BBC virginity. Plus he wanted to feel that tight, trim, nearly virginal pussy strain to accommodate his cock. He wanted to hear Stephanie squeal and cry, a mixture of equal parts pain and pleasure in the beginning, giving way to engrossing pleasure with a touch of pain, and finally settling into deep ******* where the whimpers of residual pain are drown out by ear piercing screams of euphoria. He wanted to feel her tight married pussy grasp his long thick cock as he slid it deep.

Les approached Stephanie and gently pushed her back on the bed. He was about to climb on top of her when Dan interrupted. “Hey, not to point out the obvious but you are fucking huge Les, and Stephanie hasn’t had anything remotely that big ever. But it’s ok, I’m an expert in getting her wet, and getting her ready for sex, so let me just start by touching her....” he stopped talking as soon as his fingers touched her pussy. Stephanie was completely, amazingly drenched. The wettest she had ever been by a long shot. There was a glistening pool of wetness between her legs and a puddle already forming on the bed. “Oh ah, it looks like she is already... ready.” He felt a bit jealous. Dan knew that Stephanie would enjoy the feel of a different, bigger cock. But he didn’t know her body would be lusting for Les before her pussy was even touched. Plus he thought he was uniquely skilled in getting Stephanie wet but this new man was getting her more excited than Dan just by his presence.

Dan backed away from the bed and Les started to climb on top of Stephanie kissing her body as he moved himself up. He looked in her eyes and she appeared to be a little afraid, her lips quivered with nervousness as she started to speak for the first time in many minutes. “Dan, I’m having second thoughts. Are you sure you want me to go through with this? We took an oath before God and our families. We have a *******. We promised to forsake all others and I meant it. I don’t think I should do this. I don’t want to do this. I’m sorry Les, to get you all worked up.” Dan pleaded with her, “ Stephanie you have come this far, you know how much I want this. And Les has put himself in a very awkward, vulnerable position, and gotten totally naked in front of us.” As Stephanie started to say “I know but....” Les just shook his head and said to himsself “No fucking way I’m getting this close to fucking his gorgeous wife and not doing it” and with that he positioned the head of his large cock at her opening. She gasped, the skin on skin contact between this black man’s magnificent cock and her drenched wanting pussy lips was insanely pleasurable. Her mind was telling her to stop and think of her vows, think of her self respect, but every cell of the rest of her body screamed to let Les take her with his giant cock. Her mind was controlling her mouth, as she pleaded with Les not to do it. But he could tell her body was aching to get his cock, so he inched it in. She moaned and whimpered. All she could muster now was a very low, soft, “please, stop, please st....op.... please.... please.... ohhhhh god....oh no.. it, I, I cant ....ahhh... oh god.... “ which, as Les squeezed it in further, turned into “ooohhhh god.... yes..... ohhh, I can’t, I can’t...... oh god YESS.” Les was amazed, her pussy started out so incredibly tight, but her incredible wetness could have got a bowling ball through a peep hole.

When Les finally squeezed his cock as far in as he could get it to go, he kept it right there, to let her body compensate and adjust to his massive size. Stephanie was in another world. When Les started to really fuck her she lost all inhibitions and started begging him to fuck her with that “amazing black cock of yours.” She was yelling, screaming, crying, making other noises neither Dan nor even Les had heard before. Speaking of noises Dan cried out as he came all over his pants. His little 4” spent dick throbbing then laying down quietly. But his wife and that well hung dynamo Coach Les were still going strong. Stephanie was moving and talking and moaning like a completely different woman. A changed woman. Dan’s euphoria dipped instantly as fear, no, panic rushed in. What the fuck did he do? He loved his wife. She was the best wife ever and the best mom. She was sweet, and nice, and so inherently good and decent, and morally grounded. WHAT THE FUCK DID HE DO???

Dan quickly stood and pulled his pants up and approached the bed. “Les, Steph, I think you should stop.” They ignored Dan as they continued to fuck like it was their last opportunity ever to do so. Dan cleared his throat, and said in a louder more more demanding voice. “Les, Steph, please stop this now. That’s enough.”

Les continued to fuck Stephanie deeply and passionately then looked back over his shoulder for a second before shouting at Dan, “Shut the fuck up you little limp dick mom fucker! You wanted a real man, a black well hung MAN to fuck your wife? We guess what? I am. As she loves it like nothing else she has experienced before. Do I think she will become addicted to my cock? You bet your wimpy little ass she will.” Stephanie didn’t say anything but she was so turned on. There was that dominance, that confidence and swagger that filled her with lustful submission.

“Stephanie please stop! I beg you!” Les looked in Stephanie’s eyes and asked, “do you want me to stop fucking you baby?” Stephanie replied, “No please don’t please keep fucking me. I’m sorry Dan, I really am, but I begged you to reconsider in the beginning. Now I can’t stop. If you are hurt and mad, you only have yourself to blame. If you can’t handle watching us please go out to the car and wait for me, or better yet go home and I’ll call you when I’m done.”
 
Here’s something quick I pulled together for some other post. Feel free to edit to your wife’s tastes:

A middle class white husband, Dan, begs his faithful, loving wife Stephanie to have sex with a well hung black man, but she resists big time. Dan continues to pressure his wife, to the point where he tells Stephanie that her refusal may jeopardize their 15 year marriage. Stephanie loves her husband so much and it would crush her for their marriage to end, so she very reluctantly agrees to go through with it. She’s sad, and nervous and scared. She’s also upset at Dan for making her do something she believes is morally wrong. Stephanie has only been with one man to that point, her husband Dan.

Stephanie is a very attractive soccer mom type, and because of her religious upbringing she has always dressed conservatively. Dan is also the only man to see her naked, and he knows how damn lucky he is. Stephanie’s breasts are firm and round, a beautiful 34D. She’s 5’5” with beautiful smooth legs that end at her cute, round bubble ass. Her pubic hair is neatly trimmed with her gently used pussy lips barely protrude from her tight curls. Her hole is tight because her very small dicked husband is the only “man” she has ever been with. Although small and tight, when Stephanie gets sexually aroused her pussy gets surprisingly soaked.

Dan very discreetly, very carefully approached their 8 year old *******’s basketball coach. Coach Les Green is in his mid thirties, 6’6” and very well built. A former college basketball player himself, Les fondly recalls the white girls at his college, coming over to his dorm any time he called them, offering up their sweet tight pussys for him to fuck. After college Les met his wife Rhonda and settled down to have *******.

Les smiled as Dan awkwardly went about explaining his situation. Les could have cut him off and let him know he understood exactly what he wanted, but he preferred hearing this pathetic, wimpy husband explain how he was handing over his beautiful, angelic wife to a guy that would fuck Stephanie senseless and make her crave his big cock from that point forward. Les didn’t have to think twice about it. While he stared at this blathering idiot continue to lay out his plan, Les could only think about how he missed fucking white girls. But even more exciting he was going to be fucking a white guy’s wife. A woman who was beautiful, innocent, and clearly had never been fucked hard by a real man. Les one time caught Stephanie bending over to pick up her *******’s bag, and her old, loose fitting T shirt fell away from her body exposing her beautiful 34D breasts through the neckline.

Les asked Dan before the meetup if he should bring protection because after his 3rd kid was born he got snipped. Dan said that Stephanie was on the pill so he would let Les decide. This was music to his ears. He wanted to feel skin on skin as he squeezed his big cock into Stephanie’s tight, wet, married pussy.

Strangely enough, Stephanie didn’t even ask, or care to ask what black man Dan had set up to fuck her. She didn’t care, it didn’t matter because she was just plain sick over the whole idea regardless if it was a 400 pound bus driver with body odor or Denzel Washington. But when Dan and Stephanie walked into the hotel room where Coach Les was already sitting on the couch she freaked out. “Dan you ******* of a bitch, Coach Les is Taylor’s coach!” Coach Les was shocked and pissed as well, “Dan you never told me that Stephanie didn’t know I would be the guy!” Dan apologized to both. But he reminded them, “Stephanie you agreed to go through with this because of how badly I wanted this. None of that has changed. And you know coach Les, he’s a good guy, he’s a nice man, and look at him, he’s good looking and is in amazing shape.” Stephanie had to admit that Dan could have done much worse. Coach Les was a good man, who she knew, and he wasn’t a creep. Plus, she had to admit that even though she never dated or thought of dating a black man, he was sexy. He had a dominant nature which she liked, and he oozed confidence and swagger. Weeks earlier she was bringing something out to her car during practice and found herself walking behind two other mothers who were engrossed in a conversation. Before she could get their attention to say hello, one of the mothers said to the other, “Oh my god, Coach Green is so hot, and I’m embarrassed to admit but at one practice last week he had on some clingy sweat pants and I could see the outline of his massive cock!” The other mom replied, “Yeah I saw that too. I enjoyed myself quite a bit that night thinking about riding on that monster.” Stephanie was embarrassed and a bit disgusted at the time because Les was their *******’s coach and each woman was married. But that memory now made her glance down at Les’s crotch for the first time, and now she too knew what the women were talking about.

Dan turned towards Les, “And you coach Les, you couldn’t wait to jump at the opportunity to fuck Stephanie, could you? Have your desires for Stephanie changed.” He looked her up and down lustfully before saying, “No not at all.” His eyes met hers as he smiled a confident smile. This caught Stephanie off guard. She thought to herself, “Coach Les is attracted to me? He wants to .... <gulp> fuck me?” This was unfamiliar territory even as a familiar wetness started to drench her tight pussy. Her brain raced... a man other than her husband wanted to fuck her, and not just any man a black, very well endowed man. If Stephanie just focused on the dimensions of Les’s cock, and realized how unprepared her tight little pussy was given her husband’s four inch dick, she would have been pretty frightened. But that fact was just another juicy, naughty detail for her to ponder with the situation.

“Stephanie,” Dan asked “Do you want to take off your own clothes or have Les take them off?” She gulped before replying with a cracking voice, “He can remove them.” Les didn’t need a second prompt, he immediately moved close to her, stared in her eyes, then leaned in and kissed her neck as his hands slid down and squeezed that tight, round ass of hers. Stephanie moaned as her brain worked overtime. It felt so amazing, so different to have another mans lips and hands on me, but how can this be right? He’s not my husband, I swore to forsake all others in my marital vows.

Les leaned back from Stephanie and slowly started to remove her top, exposing those perfect, heaving white breasts that her bra strained to contain. Her nipples were hard as diamonds. After Les threw her shirt on the ground he used his fingers to brush across her breasts, then gently squeezing her engorged nipples. Stephanie groaned and her body shook a little as electricity and excitement coursed through her body. He took off her bra and started to suck slowly but powerfully on her breasts. Stephanie could just close her eyes with her lips quivering. “This is still so wrong” she thought.

Les was incredibly turned on. He didn’t want to go slow any more so he leaned in and kissed Stephanie deeply on the mouth as he removed her sweatpants and panties at the same time. Stephanie was naked except for the log jam at her ankles where her shoes were blocking the removal of her clothes. She quickly worked to get her shoes off and when she was naked she quietly sat down on the bed facing Les. Like she was getting a front row seat for the “unveiling.” He quickly threw off his shirt exposing his strong, muscular upper body, highlighted by his well defined six pack abs. Stephanie mouth gaped open and her breathing and heart rate quickened as her eyes fully took in his Adonis-like upper body, and imagined it on top of her, pinning her delicate white frame to the bed. Now Les wanted to move a bit slowly for the main event. He slowly started to pull down his sweats and underwear exposing at first the thick base of his very impressive cock. He smiled as he realized that Stephanie gaze was fixed exclusively on the slow reveal of his cock. When he finally slid his clothes below his knees he could see Stephanie swallow hard and quietly she murmured, “Oh my god.”

Her eyes locked on to his cock were like a very effective fluffer. His cock started to harden and get erect on its own. That was a first for Les, who grabbed it and gently stroked it to quicken the preparation. Stephanie’s eyes grew wide as she watched his cock grow into a cock she couldn’t even comprehend given the meager size of Dan’s. Now normally every porn, and every encounter Dan had had since college involved the woman he was with giving him head before he fucked them. It felt good and got his cock hard and ready for conquest. But this time? His cock was already fully hard and even throbbing anticipating the pending loss of Stephanie’s BBC virginity. Plus he wanted to feel that tight, trim, nearly virginal pussy strain to accommodate his cock. He wanted to hear Stephanie squeal and cry, a mixture of equal parts pain and pleasure in the beginning, giving way to engrossing pleasure with a touch of pain, and finally settling into deep ******* where the whimpers of residual pain are drown out by ear piercing screams of euphoria. He wanted to feel her tight married pussy grasp his long thick cock as he slid it deep.

Les approached Stephanie and gently pushed her back on the bed. He was about to climb on top of her when Dan interrupted. “Hey, not to point out the obvious but you are fucking huge Les, and Stephanie hasn’t had anything remotely that big ever. But it’s ok, I’m an expert in getting her wet, and getting her ready for sex, so let me just start by touching her....” he stopped talking as soon as his fingers touched her pussy. Stephanie was completely, amazingly drenched. The wettest she had ever been by a long shot. There was a glistening pool of wetness between her legs and a puddle already forming on the bed. “Oh ah, it looks like she is already... ready.” He felt a bit jealous. Dan knew that Stephanie would enjoy the feel of a different, bigger cock. But he didn’t know her body would be lusting for Les before her pussy was even touched. Plus he thought he was uniquely skilled in getting Stephanie wet but this new man was getting her more excited than Dan just by his presence.

Dan backed away from the bed and Les started to climb on top of Stephanie kissing her body as he moved himself up. He looked in her eyes and she appeared to be a little afraid, her lips quivered with nervousness as she started to speak for the first time in many minutes. “Dan, I’m having second thoughts. Are you sure you want me to go through with this? We took an oath before God and our families. We have a *******. We promised to forsake all others and I meant it. I don’t think I should do this. I don’t want to do this. I’m sorry Les, to get you all worked up.” Dan pleaded with her, “ Stephanie you have come this far, you know how much I want this. And Les has put himself in a very awkward, vulnerable position, and gotten totally naked in front of us.” As Stephanie started to say “I know but....” Les just shook his head and said to himsself “No fucking way I’m getting this close to fucking his gorgeous wife and not doing it” and with that he positioned the head of his large cock at her opening. She gasped, the skin on skin contact between this black man’s magnificent cock and her drenched wanting pussy lips was insanely pleasurable. Her mind was telling her to stop and think of her vows, think of her self respect, but every cell of the rest of her body screamed to let Les take her with his giant cock. Her mind was controlling her mouth, as she pleaded with Les not to do it. But he could tell her body was aching to get his cock, so he inched it in. She moaned and whimpered. All she could muster now was a very low, soft, “please, stop, please st....op.... please.... please.... ohhhhh god....oh no.. it, I, I cant ....ahhh... oh god.... “ which, as Les squeezed it in further, turned into “ooohhhh god.... yes..... ohhh, I can’t, I can’t...... oh god YESS.” Les was amazed, her pussy started out so incredibly tight, but her incredible wetness could have got a bowling ball through a peep hole.

When Les finally squeezed his cock as far in as he could get it to go, he kept it right there, to let her body compensate and adjust to his massive size. Stephanie was in another world. When Les started to really fuck her she lost all inhibitions and started begging him to fuck her with that “amazing black cock of yours.” She was yelling, screaming, crying, making other noises neither Dan nor even Les had heard before. Speaking of noises Dan cried out as he came all over his pants. His little 4” spent dick throbbing then laying down quietly. But his wife and that well hung dynamo Coach Les were still going strong. Stephanie was moving and talking and moaning like a completely different woman. A changed woman. Dan’s euphoria dipped instantly as fear, no, panic rushed in. What the fuck did he do? He loved his wife. She was the best wife ever and the best mom. She was sweet, and nice, and so inherently good and decent, and morally grounded. WHAT THE FUCK DID HE DO???

Dan quickly stood and pulled his pants up and approached the bed. “Les, Steph, I think you should stop.” They ignored Dan as they continued to fuck like it was their last opportunity ever to do so. Dan cleared his throat, and said in a louder more more demanding voice. “Les, Steph, please stop this now. That’s enough.”

Les continued to fuck Stephanie deeply and passionately then looked back over his shoulder for a second before shouting at Dan, “Shut the fuck up you little limp dick mom fucker! You wanted a real man, a black well hung MAN to fuck your wife? We guess what? I am. As she loves it like nothing else she has experienced before. Do I think she will become addicted to my cock? You bet your wimpy little ass she will.” Stephanie didn’t say anything but she was so turned on. There was that dominance, that confidence and swagger that filled her with lustful submission.

“Stephanie please stop! I beg you!” Les looked in Stephanie’s eyes and asked, “do you want me to stop fucking you baby?” Stephanie replied, “No please don’t please keep fucking me. I’m sorry Dan, I really am, but I begged you to reconsider in the beginning. Now I can’t stop. If you are hurt and mad, you only have yourself to blame. If you can’t handle watching us please go out to the car and wait for me, or better yet go home and I’ll call you when I’m done.”
this is so sexy hot, my cock swelled as if i ws n that room. maybe some day, seconds would b exciting "for sure"
 
Hello, I'm new to this forum and the lifestyle. We are both in our 20s and have a baby together. I wanted to seek the advice of other couples on a few roadblocks I'm seeing:

I recently divulged my fantasy to her, well the first time in detail. She wasnt repulsed, just generally curious. We watched some videos together and she role played a scenario with an imaginary bull. It was incredibly hot and relieving to have this out in the open and to hear her say such things. I should add she was quite creative with it and hit all my "fantasy buttons", some of which I never told her about.

But, She doesn't like to humiliate me, or have the other person replace me sexually, as she respects me and she genuinely does enjoy our sex together. I can make her cum every time with penetration. So she doesnt have a innate desire for more. I'm okay with this and I dont want to lose this respect. I do fantasy about hardcore humiliation and her/her bull completely disrespecting me. But realistically, I dont want that.

She also doesn't enjoy porn, she gets off on erotic tales, fanfics or gifs at most. She was curious about the videos but it didnt do anything for her. I expected this since most women arent as visually oriented as men. But it makes alot the advice I see on this forum for "How to make a bbc hotwife" unhelpful.

Lastly, she has never been into dildos. I bought a large black dildo. And it just intimidated her and made her laugh at the idea of it fitting inside her. Lol she does want to peg me so it won't go to waste. I haven't used it on her yet, and I dont want to push it on her. She's never had anyone that big. But she has had bigger than me but, she said the guy(s) wasnt a good lover and she was left with the impression "guys with big dicks rely too much on their size".

Tl;dr Wanting to work our way into the lifestyle. My wife isnt into porn, curious about my fantasy, enjoys our sex life and doesnt seem to want anyone else. Not the worst situation by any means, but I don't know how to go from here without it just being a "my husband wants this so I guess I'll try it". I want a situation that genuinely mutual so that she doesnt think of it as just a way to keep me happy. All in all, it just feels like I'm saying "no actually you DO want more than me, you just dont know it yet"...

I appreciate any and all advice or anecdotes.

KNOW your woman.
KNOW her cycle.
KNOW her desires, passion, fears.


KNOW her cycle without looking at your phone or calendar.

Ovulation phase = 1 week (approx) where she is wired to BREED especially with tall athletic dark skinned strangers (short term mating).
Ovulation is when you time all your sexy black men movies without saying anything.

Repeat monthly.

It works.

Good luck !
 
KNOW your woman.
KNOW her cycle.
KNOW her desires, passion, fears.


KNOW her cycle without looking at your phone or calendar.

Ovulation phase = 1 week (approx) where she is wired to BREED especially with tall athletic dark skinned strangers (short term mating).
Ovulation is when you time all your sexy black men movies without saying anything.

Repeat monthly.

It works.

Good luck !
wow, this will have a white wifes system yearning to try a black cock b4 u start dropping hints. and i bet its a affective way to get her 'thinking'
 
KNOW your woman.
KNOW her cycle.
KNOW her desires, passion, fears.


KNOW her cycle without looking at your phone or calendar.

Ovulation phase = 1 week (approx) where she is wired to BREED especially with tall athletic dark skinned strangers (short term mating).
Ovulation is when you time all your sexy black men movies without saying anything.

Repeat monthly.

It works.

Good luck !
Looks like you sure have done your homewok.;)😂

Would love to hear about your journey how you got her into IT ?
 
wow, this will have a white wifes system yearning to try a black cock b4 u start dropping hints. and i bet its a affective way to get her 'thinking'

You have to be strong, confident, alpha. Or I do. You have to be kinky. You have to be rough. You have to slap ass, call her bitch, get her naked in the back yard, buy her lots of lingerie all the time (inexpensive sexy stuff direct from China is perfect, fk "Victorias Secret) unannounced and take pics when she tries it on - then fuck her good and tell her how you're *gonna* make her get nasty to submit to and amuse you.
And that's 100 the man's job.

No begging. No beta. No submissiveness. No cuckold. No weakness. No half ass fearful approaches, ever.

On her side, you need to know her history (what she will confess), kinks, fetishes, fantasies (these take a lot of love, trust, vulnerability, support, persuasion to get out like her naughtier history experiences, and DESIRES.
Learn them. Support them. Encourage them.

Use inside jokes, sexual escalation, seduction, dating, making her feel loved and safe and sexy every single day.

Most of all, pay attention to her hormones. Women cycle constantly and have a "give me nasty, rough, animalistic, taboo sex with stranger(s) phase every month.
A man MUST use that.

Mood and timing is everything. Fuck begging, nagging, pestering especially when she has PMS and not in a sexy mood.

If she says yes and loves the scripts every time, cumming when told she's about to be a shared bitch, etc etc then she will ask you for it when the time comes.

This has worked for us. Men need to date their wives and keep up seduction, kink, and know women.

Women are naughty as absolute fuck and want to feel safe to act on it together. Its all in the approach, not a trick.
 
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