Wife and I have very open communication and both fantasize about her being with a BBC, etc. Masterbate together, watch IR porn occasionally. She's made it clear that she really enjoys the fantasy but at this point isn't interested in being with another man. While I may disagree, she's the boss of her body and I've come to respect that decision. Fast forward, we were out of town recently on vacation and I suggested we go to a swingers club to watch because we both enjoy it and she controls the process -- i.e., if she feels uncomfortable, we could leave at any point and there are no expectations she participates. Surprisingly, she said yes, because she knows this type of thing is important to me so long as I understood the ground rules (I do). We go to the club and there is only one other couple there and a handful of guys. Guys were definitely creeping us out and making both feel uncomfortable. Mutually, we agreed to leave. Since then, we definitely have had more BBCs fantasies together while masterbating, etc. I'd like to try the swinger club route again because I think a more positive experience could better guide our future plans. How long do you think I should wait to broach the subject? Any ways to ensure this second time around isn't a total disaster?