Wife has STI

So basically your argument is that doctors, the CDC, etc. have no idea what they're talking about?

The notion that HSV-1 is oral and HSV-2 is genital is outdated and isn't used technically anymore. While the strains do prefer those regions, roughly half of genital herpes infections are cause by HSV-1 now since the virus can be passed in either direction during oral sex. Most people with HSV-2 are unaware since they don't experience the worst symptoms/outbreaks that you described. That's why it's so prevalent.

And no, it's not a standard part of any common STD panel for all the reasons numerous people in this thread have stated. The CDC actively recommends against testing for it unless symptoms are present as they explain in this article:


When it come to herpes, the only people who want your money are the antiviral ******* companies who profit from the stigma around the infection. Prior to the marketing campaigns around herpes antivirals, it was considered a benign condition that people weren't too concerned about (similar to the way we think about visible (oral) herpes outbreaks on *******, adult, etc.) There are a number of articles which go into more detail about the manufactured hysteria around herpes in the 70s/80s like this one:


Apologies if the above seems like I'm coming down too hard on you. In all honesty, I used to be pretty freaked out about HSV-2 as well. If someone told me they had it (even if they hadn't had an outbreak in years), I'd politely decline playing with them, basically punishing the few people who were both aware of their status and disclosed.

I'm still somewhat paranoid about it, but after a lot of reading and years of paying for expensive tests and then becoming even more paranoid when they came back negative, I eventually just gave up and accepted what my doctor, the CDC, other healthcare professionals had been arguing for years. That it's not the most important STI to be concerned about (especially now that my wife and I are done having *******, an outbreak during childbirth was her only concern and even that's manageable). It's so common that it's impossible to avoid if you're having casual sex. Common sense still applies (condoms, avoiding active outbreaks, partners taking anti-virals if they do experience regular outbreaks, etc.)

If you do want to avoid playing with anyone who is carrying herpes, that's entirely up to you. It just sounds like you're a bit out of touch on exactly how difficult that would actually be.

His argument is that he's a fool and thinks everyone is just greedy and that capitalism doesn't drive positive behavior by corporations. And somehow doctors also don't have his best interests at heart. Based in absolutely nothing because I can guarantee you he hasn't spent a day in his life working for an actual pharmaceutical company in a legitimate job and he's also not a physician and doesn't know enough clearly because people go into medicine to do good. I know thousands of physicians and they genuinely care about patients. Insurance is a whole issue they have to deal with but has nothing to do with their motives or having your best interest when possible.

And the argument about wanting to treat not cure disease is only ever made by morons who don't understand anything about *******. Because it's been disproven many times. Anyone who says that doesn't know anything about ******* at all and you can ignore them.
 
Ok all diseases is a stretch. Yes there are cures for some diseases. There are stds which have no cures ( so they claim ) but can be treated. And yes I do believe there diseases that do have a cure but they would rather give you pills to treat it than give you a cure. There is more money in treatment than there is in healing the disease. I had a disease which was similar to Crohn’s disease. I was told I would have to either carry a bag or have my colon removed ( which still in some cases does not stop the disease) I chose not to listen to them. Do some research dramatically change my environment and diet for two years. And after than I rally did not have any issues. I did not go back to eating the stuff I quit but once in a while I do eat it and don’t have issues like I use to. I don’t have any bodies at all. So that’s my opinion based on my experiences and others. Take from this what you want.

This is false. Show me data supporting it. There is not more money in treating than curing. Wrong. You are purely speculating and have not a shred of evidence. I have tons of examples of cured diseases that were once treated chronically. And the companies made boatload of money curing them. Like i said, people need to shut up about complicated industries they don't know anything about. Statements like that are just about as valid as saying 9/11 was a conspiracy.
 
Ok all diseases is a stretch. Yes there are cures for some diseases. There are stds which have no cures ( so they claim ) but can be treated. And yes I do believe there diseases that do have a cure but they would rather give you pills to treat it than give you a cure. There is more money in treatment than there is in healing the disease. I had a disease which was similar to Crohn’s disease. I was told I would have to either carry a bag or have my colon removed ( which still in some cases does not stop the disease) I chose not to listen to them. Do some research dramatically change my environment and diet for two years. And after than I rally did not have any issues. I did not go back to eating the stuff I quit but once in a while I do eat it and don’t have issues like I use to. I don’t have any bodies at all. So that’s my opinion based on my experiences and others. Take from this what you want.

Lifestyle changes do not count as a cure. Lol. Physicians recommend lifestyle changes almost always and patients almost never follow them. Most people are lazy, lack discipline, and would rather take medication. You assumption that a cure is not medication is quite erroneous. There have been many cures that are in the form of pills, injections, IV infusions, etc. A cure doesn't imply diet changes or such. That's the first thing a physician recommends BEFORE any treatment at all. Many serious diseases cannot be treated with these measures...eg Oncology, neurological, etc
 
Ok all diseases is a stretch. Yes there are cures for some diseases. There are stds which have no cures ( so they claim ) but can be treated. And yes I do believe there diseases that do have a cure but they would rather give you pills to treat it than give you a cure. There is more money in treatment than there is in healing the disease. I had a disease which was similar to Crohn’s disease. I was told I would have to either carry a bag or have my colon removed ( which still in some cases does not stop the disease) I chose not to listen to them. Do some research dramatically change my environment and diet for two years. And after than I rally did not have any issues. I did not go back to eating the stuff I quit but once in a while I do eat it and don’t have issues like I use to. I don’t have any bodies at all. So that’s my opinion based on my experiences and others. Take from this what you want.

Why don't you educate us on which stds aren't curable and how much money big pharma makes on the meds for them? This will be funny. The ones that aren't curable should be really easy. But having any clue as to which diseases are actually invested in by branded ******* and which are completely generic and no one makes any money on you have no idea and you probably don't even know enough to think about. I can explain to you why there's not a cure for hiv yet, at least not a vaccine if that's what you mean, but many people with the virus have undetectable viral loads and cannot infect you. Even if you're not on prep / truvada. That's pretty much a cure in my book. And it's lots of people now. They are living fully normal lives. The problem is the virus hiding in your DNA so they can't fully remove it from your body (yet), though they did it in mice.
 
Herpes is quite common. Most people with it don't even know they have it. About the only time you can catch it is when there is an active breakout. I was fucking a woman for years, before she told me she had it since before we met. My doctor said it's pointless to test for it since 50-80% of people have it, just most don't show symptoms.
 
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do pharma not make money on these ? Did I ever say hiv? Are there not stds which do not have a cure ? Oh so these meds are giving out for free? I should be able to get all these on the shelf then right for free? Your assumption of a what a cure is is subjective especially if you have not had the disease so it means nothing to me or anyone else. And when did I mention HIV? You’re just going on and on.

What are you talking about? So which disease is incurable? Herpes? It's all generic. Generic medications are nearly free. No you shouldn't get them for free. You don't go to the store and get groceries for free do you? Why the fuck would something else someone makes he free? Generic meds are extremely cheap. I pay nothing for some of mine. Go ahead I'm waiting.
 
Actually the doc asked me to take certain medications and stay away from certain food of which I did taken and helped me heal. But since you know so much about my disease ( which I did not mention ) tell me more about my body and what I’ve been through. I’d love to hear so much more. Cause you seem to be an expert on this. Tell
Me more about what I don’t know about what I’ve been through. I’ll wait...... SMFH
You just sound like an uneducated moron and you probably didn't understand your doctor or you may have picked a bad doctor. They unfortunately do exist. To be honest, I can barely decipher your posts on here. You're barley literate.
 
If you have not had one of disease or dealt with any disease any in which you have experienced major symptom (chronic, cancer, etc ) and if you are not a doc I’m any of those fields, then stfu. Because all you are doing is repeating ******* that you read with no actually experience. I can go on about ******* that I have not been through or actually dealt with by giving you notes that I read. Does it mean that I’m right maybe maybe not. But if I have not actually had these experiences and dealt with the symptoms and went through the process what can I remember someone who has ? Absolutely nothing. What i say means nothing to them because I myself have not been through what they have been through. All I can tell them is what I read like I’m sucking off and going to bat for a company which I believe has all good intentions. And I’m not saying that they are all bad cause they are not. But you over here acting like they can’t do any wrong. And going on about 911 conspiracy. But hey. Do keep believing everything that is told to you without questioning anything.

I literally can barely understand you. You have no idea what my background and experience is. And if you understood and read a word I wrote it would be extremely clear I haven't just read a couple things on this and that this is my area of expertise and what I do for a living. I know vast amounts about this and haven't looked anything up. I've been doing this my entire career. I know tons do doctors, tons of patients, you have no idea what my degree of knowledge is except what you can garner from my post, which anyone can see is an order of magnitude more than you. I'm done you're a clown
 
Remember the actor Mr. Marcus...having multiple partners can be risky...test no test...condom no condom...no one is invincible to diseases...My aunt caught hepatitis from drinking after someone at a party...Though we think these diseases are harmless as we age are bodies find it difficult to fight off infections from other invaders...i.e. illnesses...I.M.H.O. Porn has been a factor in folks down playing the risk...Yes there is medication, however ultimately folks are in control of their health and happiness...
 
Yeah everyone is an expert and know tons of docs tons of patients blah blah blah.Yeah whatever. Let me make it as simple as possible so you can see where I’m coming from. The same people in the medical field physicians, specialist etc that you are going to bat for, that diagnosed me with the disease basically gave me meds and told me to take ******* which was counterproductive. You know what the meds did? Gave me more bowel problems, had me ******* more internally and gave me issues with my kidney. I stopped taking these meds, decided to go back using certain things they told me not to use cause they might cause more damage to me internally. I chose an alternate avenue to deal with it and saw better results to the point of which I do not have any issues and able to eat things they said I won’t be able to ever eat again. Given my experience. I basically stopped taking the meds you claim work, stopped listening to those so called experts you are going to bat for and had amazing results. So WTF can you possibly say to me that makes you think I will

Listen to what you saying or believe it? Absolutely nothing.cause based on what I been through all that ******* you are saying to me means nothing to me. Cause my results basically showed that the people in that particular field were full of *******.

Do you realize giving an anecdote of an n size of one means absolutely nothing. Especially coming from the mouth of someone with zero credibility. What's your background and education besides Google. Get out of here. You had one bad experience. Get over it. You don't know anything about medicine.
 
It's good to know that. You guys could find yourself in legal trouble if she willingly pass it on to someone else. It's illegal in some states
 
I can basically use the same exact words for you :”Especially coming from the mouth of someone with zero credibility. What's your background and education besides Google. Get out of here. You don't know anything about medicine.” Where is your credibility other than “ I know tons of people and patients.. yeah sooo credible. Gtfo.

I've worked in the pharmaceutical industry for a decade. I've worked on multiple std related deals and projects. I know about the industry because I live it. Every single day. You're a clown. oh and I went to one of the top ivy league schools in the United States with a dual degree in finance and biology.
 
Makes me laugh my ass off seeing highly unintelligent and uneducated alpha men here (generally black because of the forum) not used to being challenged and having nothing at all to say that makes any sense and not realizing it. To the few of you that actually have a brain and have big dicks, kudos to you
 
I can give a fuck about what you are saying. The same way you brushed away my example of what happened to me in which i was detailed is the same way I can brush off all the claims you are making that you are throwing out with no solid foundation or trajectory till this last comment.They are only as true to you as mine is as true to me . It means absolutely nothing to me. So stop responding. Cause you wasting my time and I yours. Go do what you came on this site to do. Get your wife banged out or solicit pics of bbc so you can get off to. Have a nice night you muppet.

Funny how you go to race ******* when I own you. You're just a racist black fuck. You want to go to that level? Because you're also just a bbc without a brain. The epitome of the black male. Not smart. Just good for your dick. I happen to be hung and have no wife. Sorry. I don't solicit pics either. Check my post history. Nothing you say makes any sense because you're just not smart. Stick to fucking white women. It's all you're good at. You're not educated. Stop trying
 
You’re still posting. You’re super pressed. You went from going back and forth with me to feeling a certain type of way to go post this you weak spineless sheep.

Super pressed? Is that black man speak? Speak English you Neanderthal. Seriously what is wrong with you.
 
what did I say that was racist you dumb fuck. What is this site for again? People on this site either are trying to get men to bang their wife out or participate in it. Or on here trying to get bbc men to send them pics so they can get off. That’s exactly what people do on this site. You went the racist route with your response. Lol. Your true colors just came out. Lmmaaoo. You see how simple that was? It did not even take much. Go look up the meaning of the word racist before you start
Making claims you Fucking idiot. Want to claim someone is racist but does not comprehend what the word mean. Try again dummy.

You know what you did. I can be on this site for whatever reason I want. I don't have to be some sissy cuck to be here. That's your racist fantasy. Because you're racist and dumb. Like tons of guys here. Assuming anyone is here for any reason because of their race IS RACIST you fool. Especially if it's a reason that's degrading. Sigh. The fact that you don't realize you're racist is why this will never be mainstream. You can stay in your little fantasy bubble here. I'm finished with your uneducated ass. Go back to your boring job.
 
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