Moving away from cuckold into "stag/vixen?"

This is why I hate labels, everyone seems to have such strict definitions. I’ve even had guys get mad and tell me I’m wrong when I say my husband doesn’t want to be humiliated or have gay sex with other guys. Can’t I just enjoy having sex with other guys, and turn on my husband at the same time without having to label it?
they should enjoy the opportunity to play with a woman who's husband thinks she's so beautiful, that other men should get to enjoy her, too!;)
 
What? No labels? lol... I guess I am screwed. I love seeing the Mrs fuck her black lovers. I love her teasing and humiliating me privately. I stay back during her plays if I am not at work and even if I am home, I stay out with a cam sometimes doing my deeds. She's not slutty but has a steady boyfriend that she loves dearly. She sees her lover weekly and isn't shy about her feelings for either of us. I can't think of any label for myself except... wife-appreciator who gets what other men, of like minds, can only dream of getting.
 
My husband was never a cuckold. He likes to share me. It's not humiliating for him and he's not submissive. It's only an improvement in our sex life. He says he's a stag, but it's only a word for me.
Thats my girl and I, I let other guys fuck her but i am definitely an alpha. As she lets me fuck her female friends. We just like to share. Hell my buddy comes over couple times a month and we take turns on her.
 
It is my opinion that cuckold is the fantasy of a certain type of white male. I don't think many women/wives are into it.

More common are couples where the woman has sex with other men with the consent of the husband. They do it for fun without the husband being humiliated. The husband does not have an attraction to other men as many cuckold men do have (even when they will not admit it). It's just fun without the pseudo-bisexuality and humiliation of the husband.

I am wondering about all this too. I'm a single male, I've been interested in finding a female interested in having a white male along for the ride, so to speak. What I see and hear is that females aren't that interested in having a cuckold white male involved. If already in a relationship, if their white boyfriend/husband goes full cuckold or submissive, they can lose respect for him and it can end the relationship.

Where the guy shares her seems more likely. Honestly, I am changing my expectations to something around that, as I tend to be more dominant in relationships already.
 
do what you want, individually or collectively as a couple. who gives a fuck? why labels? i'm alpha as alpha gets yet nothing would turn me for foreplay more than licking a girl after she's been turned out by black cock. label it whatever you want. i don't care & neither should anyone else. labels are exactly why we have stererotypes, prejudice, racism, sexism, and every other ism that people on this site will rail against.... unless it comes to cuckold bashing. LMAO. get real.
 
I think this "true cuckold" tone on this site is bullshit. What people seem to be talking about is a sissy cuckold not just a cuckold. Cuckold has always been a man who enjoys his wife fucking other women. Some are sissies who enjoy the humiliation aspect and some are not....more akin to the stag ... And there's some that like to Dom their wife and make her fuck other men. We have played with all of them and depending on mood will continue to....

I think alternate sexuality is what you make it and with good communication, it dramatically enhances the excitement between the couple allowing a wide variety of sexual situations that both husband and wife can enjoy and really never feel stagnant with their sex life!
 
This is why I hate labels, everyone seems to have such strict definitions. I’ve even had guys get mad and tell me I’m wrong when I say my husband doesn’t want to be humiliated or have gay sex with other guys. Can’t I just enjoy having sex with other guys, and turn on my husband at the same time without having to label it?
100% on point. And.....sexy AF, Sarah!
 
i have always wondering why a man should be umiliated? it's a matter of fact that one can receive pleasure by seeing his wife beeing fucked by other men but it doesn't necessarly mean that he is gay or by and want to be umiliated...
 
Actually if you’re a man that knowing allows his woman to openly have sex with other men you are a cuckold. The original term derived back to Shakespearean times when a wife was taking lovers and the husband did nothing about it. I think there are a variety of extremes with the kink/lifestyle but at the end of the day if you sit ideally while your woman fucks other men and you are monogamous to her then you’re being cuckolded and am a cuckold.
 
i have always wondering why a man should be umiliated? it's a matter of fact that one can receive pleasure by seeing his wife beeing fucked by other men but it doesn't necessarly mean that he is gay or by and want to be umiliated...
Thanks for your great response...its nice to see another man who truly understands the HOTWIFE/cuckold lifestyle........
 
Actually if you’re a man that knowing allows his woman to openly have sex with other men you are a cuckold. The original term derived back to Shakespearean times when a wife was taking lovers and the husband did nothing about it. I think there are a variety of extremes with the kink/lifestyle but at the end of the day if you sit ideally while your woman fucks other men and you are monogamous to her then you’re being cuckolded and am a cuckold.
Bravo!!!!!! You also understand the lifestyle also!!!!!!!
 
Same car in a different color. A wife who sleeps with other men is cuckolding her husband. There are no two ways about it.
We can thank mainstream porn for tainting the "cuckold" name, by merging bisexuality, cross-dressing, Dom/sub, etc. into the act of cuckolding.
Nonsense. We are a S/V couple. First of all, we make sexual decisions in this area together, she is sub and I am Dom (not black owned), she isn't a QoS, I actively participate in the sex when I want, we have sex alone together, there is no cuck humiliation, and many more things. Dynamics are totally different.
 
Outstanding thread!

To us (everything is open for perception) the overarching condition is called an 'open relationship'

From that, we divide down into specific areas of interest.

Swingers - Married folks who tend to play with other married folks.

Cuckold/Hotwife - A Cuckold (in today's evolving context) is a male whose wife (Hotwife) sleeps with other men and humiliates her husband in the process (i.e. penis cages, having the husband serve both the wife and her partner, degrading talk, etc). Remember, a 'Cuckold' originally was a man whose wife had an affair without his knowledge. Those that knew referred to him as 'The Cuckold'. In fact, being accused of being a Cuckold in public led to many duels and subsequent bloodshed!

Stag/Vixen - A Stag is a guy whose wife (the Vixen) enjoys other men. The difference between a Stag and Cuckold is that the Stag is never humiliated and fully supports, and assists, his wife with her interest. He's fully involved and enjoys that involvement. Without a doubt, my husband and I are in this kind of relationship.

There are of course variations - BBC Only, Other Married Men Only, Only Single Men, Only Asian Men - the list and variations are endless.

Over time, (in the 50's through the 70s) Swinging was very prevalent. Especially after the pill became more accepted and safer. Then came AIDS and things slowed down a lot. It became to pick up again in the 90s and that's where the divisions started becoming apparent. First it was the Cuckold/Hotwife dynamic and this further divided into the Stag/Vixen sub-group that we see evolving today.

Whatever you do, don't fall into the trap that relationships and lifestyles are static. They are as fluid as the evolution of language and euphemisms (absolutely no one says 'Geepers' or "Golly Gee" anymore). In five, ten or fifteen years, we may see another dynamic start to evolve; perhaps the reverse of the Cuckold/Hotwife or Stag/Vixen relationships we see today. Maybe the women will be content to watch, or be humiliated while the male has sexual fun with other women. Or maybe even the traditional concept of marriage will evolve into something vastly different. Who knows?

Remember, the only constant is change.

Again, awesome thread - enjoyed contributing to it!
 
Outstanding thread!

To us (everything is open for perception) the overarching condition is called an 'open relationship'

From that, we divide down into specific areas of interest.

Swingers - Married folks who tend to play with other married folks.

Cuckold/Hotwife - A Cuckold (in today's evolving context) is a male whose wife (Hotwife) sleeps with other men and humiliates her husband in the process (i.e. penis cages, having the husband serve both the wife and her partner, degrading talk, etc). Remember, a 'Cuckold' originally was a man whose wife had an affair without his knowledge. Those that knew referred to him as 'The Cuckold'. In fact, being accused of being a Cuckold in public led to many duels and subsequent bloodshed!

Stag/Vixen - A Stag is a guy whose wife (the Vixen) enjoys other men. The difference between a Stag and Cuckold is that the Stag is never humiliated and fully supports, and assists, his wife with her interest. He's fully involved and enjoys that involvement. Without a doubt, my husband and I are in this kind of relationship.

There are of course variations - BBC Only, Other Married Men Only, Only Single Men, Only Asian Men - the list and variations are endless.

Over time, (in the 50's through the 70s) Swinging was very prevalent. Especially after the pill became more accepted and safer. Then came AIDS and things slowed down a lot. It became to pick up again in the 90s and that's where the divisions started becoming apparent. First it was the Cuckold/Hotwife dynamic and this further divided into the Stag/Vixen sub-group that we see evolving today.

Whatever you do, don't fall into the trap that relationships and lifestyles are static. They are as fluid as the evolution of language and euphemisms (absolutely no one says 'Geepers' or "Golly Gee" anymore). In five, ten or fifteen years, we may see another dynamic start to evolve; perhaps the reverse of the Cuckold/Hotwife or Stag/Vixen relationships we see today. Maybe the women will be content to watch, or be humiliated while the male has sexual fun with other women. Or maybe even the traditional concept of marriage will evolve into something vastly different. Who knows?

Remember, the only constant is change.

Again, awesome thread - enjoyed contributing to it!
My wife equally enjoys guiding my dick into another woman, so last point is a good one.
 
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