Celebrating Obama's Win

No I'm not even American and don't care who wins...

but lol @ you guys talking politics on this forum
and lol @ idea that Obama is a sexy black stud

You obviously care, this is the 2nd time you've went on your mini rant about Obama. Sounds like you have some butt hurt feelings invested in the man. The fact you're not American makes you sound even more envious.

Catch a clue ... you're in here talking politics too. You're doing it poorly because your comments have fuck-all to do with the issues being discussed but nonetheless ... So what it's a sex forum. Did you read the topic? It's ummm political. Make sense now?

Apparently some women find Obama sexy. If you're the leader of the free world, you're bound to have an increase in the number of people that want to suck your dick. More importantly though ...Why are you even concerned about his sex appeal anyway?:unsure: Are you chi-chi mon?
 
You obviously care, this is the 2nd time you've went on your mini rant about Obama. Sounds like you have some butt hurt feelings invested in the man. The fact you're not American makes you sound even more envious.

Catch a clue ... you're in here talking politics too. You're doing it poorly because your comments have fuck-all to do with the issues being discussed but nonetheless ... So what it's a sex forum. Did you read the topic? It's ummm political. Make sense now?

Apparently some women find Obama sexy. If you're the leader of the free world, you're bound to have an increase in the number of people that want to suck your dick. More importantly though ...Why are you even concerned about his sex appeal anyway?:unsure: Are you chi-chi mon?

Yes I care enough to mention how pathetic you guys are pretending this Urkel nerd/dork is some alpha stud.
As for being butthurt, you're the one desperately commenting on this thread and attacking me, clam down dude. I know you're proud of him but...he's not even your people. He's a half-Kenyan guy, has nothing to do with your own (West African slave) ancestry.
 
Name calling is never conducive to a good debate. Most people I've come across become more rigid in their stance when you start belittling them and at that point it doesn't matter what you have to say or what your point is, because they've cut you off and tuned you out.

Again I think the whole liberal and conservative at each other's throat bit is a waste of energy. The country needs to draw the best from both. We need structure AND space.

You make good points 9th Wonder. I just get frustrated sometimes that people just think this man is God and can do no wrong and that they refuse to open their eyes. I apologize for my rudeness.
 
How about raising the debt by more than the first 43 Presidents COMBINED? he inherited a country in economic free fall. i know the right wing would love to forget about that detail.

Or maybe 8% "official" unemployment rate? see the graphs below. again, look where we were with Bush. the country has fared far better with democratic presidents since the depression. Clintton cured the Reagan deficits. Obama is clearing the Bush deficitts. it takes time. like the titanic, the country's economic posture can't turn on a time.
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Or maybe the cancelling of the Keystone pipeline and with it the initial tens of thousands of jobs and hundreds of thousands of jobs over the lifetime of the project? that project needs more thought. it's huge and it will impact millions of people and the environment. i'm glad they're being careful. the project isn't dead. it's being scrutinized and i'm glad.

Or maybe the denial of security that caused an Ambassador and 3 ex-Seals to be MURDERED? the facts on that are not clear. that is currently being investigated by 3 different committees.

Or maybe the doubling of gasoline prices in 4 years? i paid slightly over 5.00 for gas (in nor cal) during the bush era. again, nice to forget if ur republican but it happened because of a war. a bush war. presidents have virtually no control over gas prices. i thought you republicans likked the "free market" economy?

Or maybe the fact that 59 precincts in the Philadelphia area cast 20,000 votes and NOT ONE VOTE was for Romney? YEAY!!!!!!!! there's hope out there yet. i'm sure there were small precincts in the south or heartland that were solidly in the Rommney camp. if not, YEAY again.

Ok back to the economy. How about the reduction of drilling on federal lands by 15% (that means jobs and lower gas prices)? in case u haven't heard, we're in a recession. almost everything is down 15%. i realize fear causes people to lose perspective but "drill baby drill" is not a great philosophy to run a country by

Or maybe the fact that he will be raising taxes on EVERYONE on January 1 if nothing is done about the "fiscal cliff"? no. lmao. :bounce: he will not be raising taxes on everyone. presidents don't raise taxes. congress is in charge of that. if they cooperate and get busy doing ttheir jobs the cliff will be avoided. if not, our taxes will go up based on a pre-arranged agreement OF CONGRESS. not the president.

I could go on for days. and i'm sure you will but why not do a little non-partisan research first. think about what's good for the country instead of only what's good for your party.

it's kinda funny (and sad) that the right wing reverts to calling liberals "idiots" when they run out of arguments.

imo, they should take a good look in the mirror before they cast stones. and speaking of stones, if the right is so christian and righteous, then why do they prioritize money and their own self interest over the needs of the poor and disenfranchised? i don't claim to be christian but i'm a better christian than the bible belters who truly CHOOSE to remain ignorant (and callous) of the suffering of their fellow human beings and intolerant of our differences.

if ******* can be legitimate and the resulting pregnancy be "god's will", then why can't they be consistent and admit that the re-election of Obama was god's will as well?

so sad

jesus must be crying




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Believe me, I have not run out of arguments or proof. Just time. For now. I have to get back to work, but I will be back tonight.
As for your charts, why don't you find the one I saw in the press that shows net jobs gained for the ENTIRE term of every President since FDR? Oh, I know why. That would disprove your point because it shows a net job gain in 4 YEARS for Obama of 133,000. You can keep blaming Bush all you want, but when you educate yourself, you will see that the things that caused the economic collapse were laws that were signed into existence by Bill Clinton.
As for your pictures, there are idiots on both sides of the debate (ex: the Occupy movements that were filled with *******, Crime, and defecating on police cars).
 
Yes I care enough to mention how pathetic you guys are pretending this Urkel nerd/dork is some alpha stud.
As for being butthurt, you're the one desperately commenting on this thread and attacking me, clam down dude. I know you're proud of him but...he's not even your people. He's a half-Kenyan guy, has nothing to do with your own (West African slave) ancestry.

But you care nonetheless ;)

Oh I'm not attacking you, just inquiring. Don't be butt-hurt over me ... Obama's already got you in that department. Just breathe ... It's not that serious.

Whether I'm proud of him has nothing to do with my inquiries. In fact, If you read my previous posts you'd be aware that I'm not particularly fond of Obama or Romney. See that's the part where reading is fundamental.

You're rich with the speculations I see. You know who my 'people' are. You know that I somehow couldn't be Kenyan or that I simply must be of West African slave ancestry. LOL I like you for the fool you are so I'm just going to let you keep thinking that.

Anyway, I'm done with you. I've said my say. Enjoy yourself :)
 
But you care nonetheless ;)

Oh I'm not attacking you, just inquiring. Don't be butt-hurt over me ... Obama's already got you in that department. Just breathe ... It's not that serious.

Whether I'm proud of him has nothing to do with my inquiries. In fact, If you read my previous posts you'd be aware that I'm not particularly fond of Obama or Romney. See that's the part where reading is fundamental.

You're rich with the speculations I see. You know who my 'people' are. You know that I somehow couldn't be Kenyan or that I simply must be of West African slave ancestry. LOL I like you for the fool you are so I'm just going to let you keep thinking that.

Anyway, I'm done with you. I've said my say. Enjoy yourself :)

No you "breathe" lol...we can both play this game. I just made a general comment and you're chasing me on different threads to "speak yo mind."

I care, yes, enough to make fun of dorks like you...

Otherwise, sorry, non-Americans aren't really into your politics, which is why I find this whole discussion silly. You're trying to sexualize a politician preppy who's clearly under the thumb of his wife.
 
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You make good points 9th Wonder. I just get frustrated sometimes that people just think this man is God and can do no wrong and that they refuse to open their eyes. I apologize for my rudeness.


LOL I think we've all gotten that way to some degree, falcon. Intermittent mud fights aside, I think some good points have been brought up on both sides of the table.
 
No you "breathe" lol...we can both play this game. I just made a general comment and you're chasing me on different threads to "speak yo mind."

I care, yes, enough to make fun of dorks like you...

Otherwise, sorry, non-Americans aren't really into your politics, which is why I find this whole discussion silly. You're trying to sexualize a politician preppy who's clearly under the thumb of his wife.


LOL feel better now cupcake? :) You've made your profound statement ... now what? :)
 
You make good points 9th Wonder. I just get frustrated sometimes that people just think this man is God and can do no wrong and that they refuse to open their eyes. I apologize for my rudeness.
i don't think Obam's a god, i just know he's better than the alternatives.

the fundamental issue underlying all of this is that liberals and conservatives have different moral underpinnings.

liberals have only two primary moral beliefs - fairness/reciprocity and harm/care

conservatives have those two concepts but give them a lower priority. conservatives add group loyalty, deference to authority and a belief that change is dangerous. they add these to their moral mix and decision making process

conservatives believe in a higher power. deference to authority.
(climate change is natural, ******* pregnancies r god's will, a strong leader will take care of us, god created the world by design and evolution is a dangerous myth)
liberals believe we r responsible for our own destiny.
(climate change is man-made and needs to be addressed, ******* is a despicable crime, and our leaders are fallible, science will reveal how the world was created and evolution runs it)

conservative is fear based - nazi germany
liberal is change based - communist revolution

some fears r legit

we need conservatives to help keep us from loosing our traditions and institutions which could be easily lost without the conservative element digging in their heels.

conservatives believe group loyalty (ie, religion, party affiliation) is more important than change even at some cost to people at the bottom (ie, the poor, pregnant teens or illegal immigrants)

we need liberals to move into the future and be on the right side of history

liberals want justice NOW, no options.
conservatives want justice too, but believe other values need to be considered.

a balance of both is good even though we all have a hard time admitting it.
 
By that statement, you truly show your ignorance. Do you know any disabled people or people with MS? Obviously not.

Actually, I do. Quite a number of them, some are family members.

My eldest ******* is not autistic, but he exhibits many autistic-like behaviors. What Anne Romney is doing is called Equine Therapy. In her case, it helps new pathways form in the brain and fire new synapses to improve balance and coordination. In my sons case it does that and a lot more. He has improved a lot because of his equine therapy.

Sorry about your *******'s problems, but happy he is improving and that you are able to obtain the care he requires. Not many people can afford it these days.
However, the amount of money that was reported was obscene, especially considering what well trained horses can be bought and maintained for (don't go there, I have owned horses and still have friends who do), not to mention that it was reported that she doesn't even use the horse.

This is the problem with most liberals. They spout off at the mouth without first educating themselves and then they just spout, like robots, whatever Obama says the party line is.

IDIOTS!

This is the problem with most conservatives, they spout off assuming all the nonsense they've been fed by FOX and Rush Limpbrain is how it really is in the real world.

First, I'm not a liberal, I'm totally independent and not bound by any party's bullshit. If anything, my belief's would be closer to that of the Libertarian Party, but I have issues with them as well.

Second, nothing I said is anything from Obama or the Democrap platform, it was a direct observation on my part that I have a choice of having my pocket picked to support people who don't need more as opposed to it being picked to support people who actually could use a little help.
No, I'm not forgetting the ones who just want a free ride and want the government to take care of them. While it is unfortunate that some of my hard earned dollars will end up enabling some of them to sit on their asses, I have to hope that some of it actually does get to someone who is in real need. This is still a better option to me than the thought of it going into Paris Hilton's portfolio as more gain on the investments her family gave her.

Whether my example of Romney's horse properly conveyed the one side of the equation or not is immaterial, the point is that I recognize that BOTH parties are fucking me and while I am not playing favorites with party demagoguery, I have made the conscious decision that I would prefer my loss be a gain to someone who is truly in need. Because I actually see, talk to and know some of the people in need and I hear people like Warren Buffett talking about how he doesn't need any more tax breaks.
OK, maybe Romney is poor in comparison to Buffett, but I don't think that Romney had a true need for the tax deduction, I could be wrong, but I think he could have managed to get by without it. Maybe sell off a summer home, couple of SUVs or something.

On the other hand, I know a lot of people who are struggling just to put food on the table and a few who are living in their cars, so if the choice is being screwed to help the have a lots have more or the have not so much get a little, I'll go with the poor bastard busting his ass trying to get by.

What can I say, I'm just becoming an old softy as I age.
 
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a balance of both is good even though we all have a hard time admitting it.

The ideal would be an equal number of each so that neither can push through anything partisan.

However, as long as both are subject to gain via special interest lobbying, we the people are still on the wrong side of Lady Justices' scale.
 
lol @ people discussing politics on an interracial sex/porn forum

That's life :)

At least the thread is clearly named.

Perhaps the Republicans will finance erotic thrillers impunging the black president with white interns in a huge cover up of sexual exploitation in the hope that that works next time (that people will believe it is based on what they want people to think is going on in the Oval Office)...

:)
 
A "real" black ruled nation would be very enjoyable....... ; ) Knowing that I would be shown my place as a white woman in this type of nation would be liberating.

~Mona

Mona there are black ruled nations all over Africa...and while in most white women will live securely, happily and having lots of fun and sex there is nothing liberating about 5 years in a Senegalese brothel with 50 factory workers a time queuing up with their $1 fee...
 
i don't think Obam's a god, i just know he's better than the alternatives.

the fundamental issue underlying all of this is that liberals and conservatives have different moral underpinnings.

liberals have only two primary moral beliefs - fairness/reciprocity Android harm/care

conservatives have those two concepts but give them a lower priority. conservatives add group loyalty, deference to authority and a belief that change is dangerous. they add these to their moral mix and decision making process

conservatives believe in a higher power. deference to authority.
(climate change is natural, ******* pregnancies r god's will, a strong leader will take care of us, god created the world by design and evolution is a dangerous myth)
liberals believe we r responsible for our own destiny.
(climate change is man-made and needs to be addressed, ******* is a despicable crime, and our leaders are fallible, science will reveal how the world was created and evolution runs it)

conservative is fear based - nazi germany
liberal is change based - communist revolution

some fears r legit

we need conservatives to help keep us from loosing our traditions and institutions which could be easily lost without the conservative element digging in their heels.

conservatives believe group loyalty (ie, religion, party affiliation) is more important than change even at some cost to people at the bottom (ie, the poor, pregnant teens or illegal immigrants)

we need liberals to move into the future and be on the right side of history

liberals want justice NOW, no options.
conservatives want justice too, but believe other values need to be considered.

a balance of both is good even though we all have a hard time admitting it.
How in the world can you think Obama is better than the alternative. Please tell me how. Does nobody care our national debt is through the roof or the unemployment is at almost 9%, that gas prices are through the roof yet we refuse to tap the vast reserves our nation has. Or that everday our freedoms that make this country great are being taken away bit by bit. Christ you can't even buy a ******* over 20 ounces in New york because some liberal moron thinks he can keep people from getting fat.
 
Do you believe that would be the case here if we became an African American ruled nation? I just enjoy knowing that I will be shown my place and how to better serve the African American community.

~Mona

Not really. it did not in the last few years and you have workable laws and real police in the USA. They usually don't in Africa.

Beside the black population in America is quite small.

The next President is probably going to be a Democrat Hispanic...(just through that in to wind up a few people...:) )
 
How in the world can you think Obama is better than the alternative. Please tell me how. Does nobody care our national debt is through the roof or the unemployment is at almost 9%, that gas prices are through the roof yet we refuse to tap the vast reserves our nation has. Or that everday our freedoms that make this country great are being taken away bit by bit. Christ you can't even buy a ******* over 20 ounces in New york because some liberal moron thinks he can keep people from getting fat.

Probably from simple observation
 
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The next President is probably going to be a Democrat Hispanic...(just through that in to wind up a few people...:) )

Unless Billary runs, it will probably be an openly Lesbian Hispanic Woman whose birth certificate will show she was born in a Texas hospital after her parents slipped in over the border illegally. :eek: :D
 
following your rules anybody who cares about his community and gets elected 'is then a politician' and no matter what he previously was you consider your rules now apply to them just because they got elected, irrespective of what they are really like.

Maybe it is like that in America. In Britian you don't have to be rich or sponsored by big business, or the unions to get elected. Ordinary people can afford to stand and do get elected who do care about what they are doing.

I wouldn't like to generalise that you don't have caring people in elected posts in America. I suspect you do have such people.

There are people who get into politics with the best of intentions, but I'm sure you've heard the old saying that power corrupts...
 
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