Any fetish is choice. Dont believe the lies.

[kennloni]

Almost everyone will tell you that you don't have choice. It's in your dna. You cant change who you are attracted to. Its who you are. Yourre too far gone. No one has ever came back. Blah blah blah.

It's all bullshit. Non of it is scientifically sound. I'm not saying it's easy. Or that's there is a quick fix. But there are so many resources and methods for mental help. People beat all sorts of addictions and fetishes. Imagine telling a heroine addict or ******* they don't have a choice and they should just embrace it.

Not everyone wants this. How many women or men have been manipulated into doing things they have regreted? How many destroyed their families over this? Or lost their lover? Men and women both often end up hating themselves.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not hating. If you love it and it positively ads to your life go for it. Just be honest as to why ypu are doing it and what you truly want. And stop telling people who want out they have no hope.

 

[MacNfries]

re: Any fetish is choice. Don't believe the lies.​

Almost everyone will tell you that you don't have choice. It's in your dna. You cant change who you are attracted to. Its who you are. Yourre too far gone. No one has ever came back. Blah blah blah.
It's all bullshit. Non of it is scientifically sound. I'm not saying it's easy. Or that's there is a quick fix. But there are so many resources and methods for mental help. People beat all sorts of addictions and fetishes. Imagine telling a heroine addict or ******* they don't have a choice and they should just embrace it.

Scrambled Eggs ... you're mixing in a lot of different topics with the desire to arrive at one conclusion.
I imagine most people reading your post aren't even sure what you're specifically talking about. Are we talking about fetishes, and are you lumping one's sexuality & preferences in with fetishes? And where are the sources (facts) which support your conclusions?
I started to attempt to discuss your comment but then realized you have several topics inter-twined with each other ... it'd take up a full page of de-scrambling your comments just to take a position on one of them.

I'll mention one to start you thinking. One's sexual preference IS determined, at least in part, to DNA whether you wish to accept that or not. There were simply too many studies & scientific sources to list them all so I provide you with the page to let you read them IF you so desire to broaden your knowledge.
But whether you're homosexual, heterosexual, asexual, even pedophilic, these are not fetish choices simply to turn you ON to enjoy sex. Even your preferences of color and foods are somewhat linked to DNA.

You should follow this link and go reading. And, if you have YOUR SOURCES which support YOUR post, put them up, I'd love to read them. Opinions, are like assholes, everyone has one and everyone else's stinks.

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[kennloni]

Lol. Look I don't want to get in a pissing match about sources. Scientific sources can be bent to support any conclusion. Politicians do it all the time.

The point is if you have this fetish and you don't want it you can change. Even if someone is telling you you can't. Which happens often on this forum and in this lifestyle.

Your brain plastic. Most people drift through life without even realizing how much control they actually have.

 

[Zwing]

Lol. Look I don't want to get in a pissing match about sources. Scientific sources can be bent to support any conclusion. Politicians do it all the time.

The point is if you have this fetish and you don't want it you can change. Even if someone is telling you you can't. Which happens often on this forum and in this lifestyle.

Your brain plastic. Most people drift through life without even realizing how much control they actually have.

Provide the evidence to support your claim.

 

[MacNfries]

Look I don't want to get in a pissing match about sources. Scientific sources can be bent to support any conclusion. Politicians do it all the time.

Sources do 2 things ... one, it tells the readers WHERE the poster got his/her information, and 2, it often supports the statement the poster is making. You DO wish the readers to take you serious, don't you?
When you don't post any sources to bold, declarative statements, its like pulling a turd out of your ass, not one ounce of validity to your shitty statement ... sort of like Trump does 15-20 times a day, his biggest lie being "voter fraud". Make sense?

Also note that you keep referring to these things as fetish. They're NOT fetish at all. Things like homosexuality are NOT fetishes.
I gave you a link to a page full of scientific facts and/or opinions. Notice in those articles the writers also provide THEIR LINKS to sources of their posts.
You can't simply disqualify science as a valid source WITHOUT providing your own source from which you drew your opinion. Kopish? That would be "TRUMPISH" of you. LOL

 

[BlkLondon]

re: Any fetish is choice. Don't believe the lies.​

Scrambled Eggs ... you're mixing in a lot of different topics with the desire to arrive at one conclusion.
I imagine most people reading your post aren't even sure what you're specifically talking about. Are we talking about fetishes, and are you lumping one's sexuality & preferences in with fetishes? And where are the sources (facts) which support your conclusions?
I started to attempt to discuss your comment but then realized you have several topics inter-twined with each other ... it'd take up a full page of de-scrambling your comments just to take a position on one of them.

I'll mention one to start you thinking. One's sexual preference IS determined, at least in part, to DNA whether you wish to accept that or not. There were simply too many studies & scientific sources to list them all so I provide you with the page to let you read them IF you so desire to broaden your knowledge.
But whether you're homosexual, heterosexual, asexual, even pedophilic, these are not fetish choices simply to turn you ON to enjoy sex. Even your preferences of color and foods are somewhat linked to DNA.

You should follow this link and go reading. And, if you have YOUR SOURCES which support YOUR post, put them up, I'd love to read them. Opinions, are like assholes, everyone has one and everyone else's stinks.

what determines one's sexuality preferences? - Bing

Intelligent search from Bing makes it easier to quickly find what you’re looking for and rewards you.

www.bing.com

I couldn't be bothered to read all your stuff, but at the bolded: so a black person in Africa who has no access to the internet, never met a non-black (lets say white) person in person and doesn't watch western media might be 'predetermined' to want to be a 'bull' to white people? There's some sort of mental alchemy that happens where that approximates to all the stuff created here in the west over the last 400yrs or so?

Or reverse it: a white dude in a part of Europe who's never gonna meet black people and blahblahblah. Same for him?

Over to you...

 

[Zwing]

I couldn't be bothered to read all your stuff, but at the bolded: so a black person in Africa who has no access to the internet, never met a non-black (lets say white) person in person and doesn't watch western media might be 'predetermined' to want to be a 'bull' to white people? There's some sort of mental alchemy that happens where that approximates to all the stuff created here in the west over the last 400yrs or so?

Or reverse it: a white dude in a part of Europe who's never gonna meet black people and blahblahblah. Same for him?

Over to you...

I think that is a bit specific. Something can't turn you on if you are unaware of it. But how do you explain my primary turn on being interracial sex fo 35 years? I didn't choose that when I was first exploring porn. I just stumbled upon it, loved it and it has been my go to since.

 

[kennloni]

Point is you can change it if you want. Ypu can replace and modify it.

Or you can keep doing the same and strengthening the feedback loop.

Either way thechoice is yours

 

[Abbybadwife]

I couldn't be bothered to read all your stuff,

Then why bother responding (or expect anyone to read your response)? It's like hearing one sentence in a statement and expecting to be able to make a salient point when you don't even know the full context of the conversation...

 

[kennloni]

I'm not here to convince people who want to argue their own limitations. I'm here for the people who want out.

 

[MacNfries]

Over to you...

Kewl ...and my response is "and IF a bullfrog had wings he wouldn't bust his ass every time he jumps."
Making comments starting with big IF's leaves room for all kinds of imaginary brain slug. Declarative posts with "references" just lets the readers know the comments didn't come directly from the poster's asshole, especially when there are 10-15 opinions/topics with agree with each other.
Also, when the references are by science related individuals, it tells me these people are more likely than the less educated original poster to know what the fuck they're talking about.

"back over to you"

 

[MacNfries]

I'm not here to convince people who want to argue their own limitations.

And I'm not here to argue either, kennloni. I haven't called you names, have I?
You made an initial bold statement with no references to your sources ... I think the readers have had quite enough of the Alt-Facts of the last presidential administration to deserve honest, factual information rather than declare "false media" to everything that disagrees with their opinions. Don't you think that's fair? I just ask you to tell me WHERE you got your information ... is THAT too much to ask or is it just an inconvenience to you?
Are you sure you understand what a fetish IS and why it doesn't include things like homosexuality, etc?

 

[kennloni]

Bro relax. You don't need to police every topic as an excuse to announce your political leanings and prove yourre smarter than everyone.

It's OK to just disagree and go your own way.

 

[BlkLondon]

Then why bother responding (or expect anyone to read your response)? It's like hearing one sentence in a statement and expecting to be able to make a salient point when you don't even know the full context of the conversation...
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Who cares?

I said what I said and meant it.

Is this 'fetish' something innate is the circumstances that enable it are present?

Don't bother responding to me if that's your wish. Again, who cares?

 

[BlkLondon]

And I'm not here to argue either, kennloni. I haven't called you names, have I?
You made an initial bold statement with no references to your sources ... I think the readers have had quite enough of the Alt-Facts of the last presidential administration to deserve honest, factual information rather than declare "false media" to everything that disagrees with their opinions. Don't you think that's fair? I just ask you to tell me WHERE you got your information ... is THAT too much to ask or is it just an inconvenience to you?
Are you sure you understand what a fetish IS and why it doesn't include things like homosexuality, etc?

Babble my friend, you've written a lot of unitelligible babble.

I have no idea what you're trying to say. Don't care about "Alt-Facts"

Just like with the lady above, answer this: if the circumstances aren't there to create behavior/attitudes or whatever you want to call this (or other) phenomenon, is it innate, learned or some sort of psychological alchemy (which I don't have the qualifications to explain) rooted in a particular location, historicity and social milieu?

You can give me a concise definition of 'fetish' if you want, or link me to something. Why don't you demystify things for me Mr. MacNfries? Help slower people like me out, walk me through it.

And I don't care about homosexuality, I'm talking about Black/white fetishisation and (to some) it's supposedly natural innateness, when there was great separation between the (so called) races before the age of exploration/modernity. Even though the vast majority of black people in the world will have no significant contact with 'whites.'

"But-but-but it's genes."

 

[Abbybadwife]

Who cares?

I said what I said and meant it.

Is this 'fetish' something innate is the circumstances that enable it are present?

Don't bother responding to me if that's your wish. Again, who cares?

Your sentence is incoherent, double check your spelling and punctuation if you are actually interested in conversing.
If you're only interested in screaming into the void....carry on!

 

[BlkLondon]

Your sentence is incoherent, double check your spelling and punctuation if you are actually interested in conversing.
If you're only interested in screaming into the void....carry on!

No idea what the bolded means, but the passive aggressive nitpicking is unnecessary. Also Invalidates nothing I've said (to your friend.)

I didn't create this thread, you're welcome to ignore me and respond to the op's premise.

Since I'm not interested in the slightest in talking to you, If you could block me I'd appreciate it.

 

[Abbybadwife]

No idea what the bolded means, but the passive aggressive nitpicking is unnecessary. Also Invalidates nothing I've said (to your friend.)

I didn't create this thread, you're welcome to ignore me and respond to the op's premise.

Since I'm not interested in the slightest in talking to you, If you could block me I'd appreciate it
.

I wasn't nitpicking, I genuinely didn't understand the response you typed to me.
When someone responds directly to another post with "I couldn't be bothered to read all your stuff" then responds to another post with "who cares" I have to assume you aren't an honest interlocutor but I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

The ignore button is a two way street, feel free to use yours if you don't want to read my posts but I'll make my own decisions about how I use mine.

On the topic of this thread: It feels a lot like someone from AA showing up at a bar and telling everyone they don't have to *******. He seems to be conflating addictions, fetishes and sexual orientation as the same.
I'm reminded the TV preacher Jimmy Swaggart that would tell all the "perverts" they were going to hell only to find out he was engaging in his own "perversion" with prostitutes.
To the OP: I hope you get control of whatever behaviors you deem disruptive to your life but proselytizing here isn't helping you. It only gives you an internal rationalization to return to this site and continue the obsession you seem concerned with stopping. Consider seeking a a licensed mental health professional.

 

[kennloni]

I wasn't nitpicking, I genuinely didn't understand the response you typed to me.
When someone responds directly to another post with "I couldn't be bothered to read all your stuff" then responds to another post with "who cares" I have to assume you aren't an honest interlocutor but I was giving you the benefit of the doubt.

The ignore button is a two way street, feel free to use yours if you don't want to read my posts but I'll make my own decisions about how I use mine.

On the topic of this thread: It feels a lot like someone from AA showing up at a bar and telling everyone they don't have to *******. He seems to be conflating addictions, fetishes and sexual orientation as the same.
I'm reminded the TV preacher Jimmy Swaggart that would tell all the "perverts" they were going to hell only to find out he was engaging in his own "perversion" with prostitutes.
To the OP: I hope you get control of whatever behaviors you deem disruptive to your life but proselytizing here isn't helping you. It only gives you an internal rationalization to return to this site and continue the obsession you seem concerned with stopping. Consider seeking a a licensed mental health professional.

I only posted it because there have been several people here posting for help. They are always shot down.

Ypu are mistaken. I'm not telling anybody what they cannot do or should do. All I'm saying is you have a choice.

I'm not conflicting *******.

 

[Abbybadwife]

I only posted it because there have been several people here posting for help. They are always shot down.

Ypu are mistaken. I'm not telling anybody what they cannot do or should do. All I'm saying is you have a choice.

I'm not conflicting *******.

The word I used is conflating. Your original post seems to put sexual orientation, addictions, and fetishes in the same category. I think maybe you're misunderstanding some people's fantasy posts about BNWO and racial superiority as actual world views when they aren't.
Anyone that believes they have an obsessive compulsion problem with the cuckold lifestyle (not many people actually live that way), porn or sex and is looking for help is unlikely to seek that help in the off topic section of an interracial sex site.
This thread seems to be that call for help, if you are struggling with this in your life I hope you seek some professional help rather than ruminating about it here. You have to make the change...

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