Ok before this goes any further let me address something. This thread was never about ******* anyone with the intent of hurting them. This is about the sensual aspect of ******* which some people do enjoy. Just like some people enjoy being paddled, or flogged or tied up or gagged, etc. I apologize if this brings up bad memories of men some of you may have dealt with in your past who did not understand the difference. All I ask is that even if you disagree with it, understand and respect the fact that there are some people out there who do enjoy the practice.