Mac, why don't you tell her to come and tell me that *******.....
Trump lost moving on with new year go Biden
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I stated a couple of months ago that if Biden wins he's going to make an issue of attending the Inaugaration so he can be on a plane out of America as 12:01 Jan 20.
Trump 2020 and then the riots in the streets by those that don't deserve respect.
well we all know he never ceases to try and burn his enemies...so who knows......and he has mentioned war several times...might try bring up war and has to stay in office....or we know he is going to say the election was rigged because people love him
This explains why I never encounter Trump supporters as successful people in science or technology
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Closed-minded cognition: Right-wing authoritarianism is negatively related to belief updating following prediction error - Psychonomic Bulletin & Review
When confronted with information that challenges our beliefs, we must often learn from error in order to successfully navigate the world. Past studies in reinforcement learning and educational psychology have linked prediction error, a measure of surprise, to successful learning from feedback...
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It appears to me that most comments by Trump supporters are attacks on his opposition. Let me ask you a question: what do you see as accomplishments during his administration?
MichaelSteal
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and what did the polls say in 2016???
Trump didn't have approval rating polls in 2016 since he wasn't president.
MichaelSteal
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Read what I wrote... I said "what did the polls say." Never said anything about approval.
Maybe you should go back and read what subhub174014 wrote
MichaelSteal
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How do you think they get approval ratings?
You asked a question and I answered it, dawg. Moving some goalposts around now, I see.
Doesn't matter. 2016 had no incumbents, and too much focus on national polls- which is not how we elect a president.
The polling was correct in 2016. Hillary got more votes. Perriod. The electoral college strategy and third party candidate vote was not factored in. This time, the methodology is much smarter and thus, data more accurate.
In 2016, Trump wasn't President with a rating, AND public opinion, he has that today. Both are in the toilet.
He was running against a woman the Republicans had spent millions of dollars and thousands of minutes on the air with negative ******* about her from 1992- 2016.
Trump's negatives, and Hillary's negatives were about the same. A lot of people took a chance with him, well, because he was not Hillary.
Hillary is not on the ballot. Trump has negative approval ratings, and continue to the same *******.
Joe does not have high negatives. But most importantly, Trump is losing to himself. People are not voting for Joe in high numbers as much as they are voting against Trump in even higher numbers.
I wish it was more so because of Biden/Harris, but fuck it. A win is a win.
MichaelSteal
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Dumb ass....approval ratings are done by polling.....ok dawg....
MichaelSteal
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Polling was not correct in 2016. By the numbers that were polled Hillary should have won regardless of the electoral college.
Look the reason you want to talk about his approval ratings is that you can say the election was rigged then start magically pulling out mail in ballots the for some reason were not counted and just happen to be all democrat.
You know, there is a science to it, not just asking random fucks random questions?
There is science behind getting a large enough sample size to reduce your standard deviation down to an acceptable margin of error.
In 2016, it was close enough that Trump slipped in through those margins. In 2020, even with a larger margin of error for integrity, Trump is behind in every credible poll from all institutions even his propaganda media at FOX and Rasmussen.
Polling Data
| Poll | Date | Sample | MoE | Biden (D) | Trump (R) | Spread |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| RCP Average | 8/3 - 8/14 | -- | -- | 49.8 | 41.9 | Biden +7.9 |
| CBS News/YouGov | 8/12 - 8/14 | 2152 LV | -- | 52 | 42 | Biden +10 |
| NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl | 8/9 - 8/12 | 900 RV | 3.3 | 50 | 41 | Biden +9 |
| FOX News | 8/9 - 8/12 | 1000 RV | 3.0 | 49 | 42 | Biden +7 |
| Economist/YouGov | 8/9 - 8/11 | 1208 RV | 3.6 | 49 | 39 | Biden +10 |
| The Hill/HarrisX | 8/8 - 8/11 | 2828 RV | 1.8 | 44 | 40 | Biden +4 |
| CNBC/Change Research (D)* | 8/7 - 8/9 | 2143 LV | 2.1 | 50 | 44 | Biden +6 |
| Monmouth* | 8/6 - 8/10 | 785 RV | 3.5 | 51 | 41 | Biden +10 |
| Rasmussen Reports | 8/5 - 8/11 | 2500 LV | 2.0 | 49 | 43 | Biden +6 |
| NPR/PBS/Marist | 8/3 - 8/11 | 1108 RV | 3.6 | 53 | 42 | Biden +11 |
| The Hill/HarrisX | 8/2 - 8/5 | 2850 RV | 1.8 | 43 | 40 | Biden +3 |
| GU Politics/Battleground | 8/1 - 8/6 | 1000 LV | 3.1 | 53 | 40 | Biden +13 |
| Economist/YouGov | 8/2 - 8/4 | 1229 RV | 3.3 | 49 | 40 | Biden +9 |
| Rasmussen Reports | 7/29 - 8/4 | 2500 LV | 2.0 | 48 | 45 | Biden +3 |
| Emerson | 7/29 - 7/30 | 964 LV | 3.1 | 50 | 46 | Biden +4 |
| Economist/YouGov | 7/26 - 7/28 | 1260 RV | 3.4 | 49 | 40 | Biden +9 |
| IBD/TIPP | 7/25 - 7/28 | 1160 RV | 3.1 | 48 | 41 | Biden +7 |
| Rasmussen Reports | 7/22 - 7/28 | 2500 LV | 2.0 | 48 | 42 | Biden +6 |
| CNBC/Change Research (D)* | 7/24 - 7/26 | 1039 LV | 3.0 | 51 | 42 | Biden +9 |
| CBS News/YouGov | 7/21 - 7/24 | 1401 LV | -- | 51 | 41 | Biden +10 |
| Harvard-Harris | 7/21 - 7/23 | 1932 RV | -- | 55 | 45 | Biden +10 |
| Economist/YouGov | 7/19 - 7/21 | 1222 RV | 3.2 | 48 | 41 | Biden +7 |
| Rasmussen Reports | 7/15 - 7/21 | 2500 LV | 2.0 | 47 | 45 | Biden +2 |
| The Hill/HarrisX | 7/17 - 7/20 | 2829 RV | 1.8 | 45 | 38 | Biden +7 |
| FOX News | 7/12 - 7/15 | 1104 RV | 3.0 | 49 | 41 | Biden +8 |
| ABC News/Wash Post | 7/12 - 7/15 | 673 LV | -- | 54 | 44 | Biden +10 |
| Economist/YouGov | 7/12 - 7/14 | 1252 RV | 3.3 | 49 | 40 | Biden +9 |
| CNBC/Change Research (D)* | 7/10 - 7/12 | 1258 LV | 2.8 | 51 | 41 | Biden +10 |
| Rasmussen Reports | 7/8 - 7/14 | 1500 LV | 2.0 | 47 | 44 | Biden +3 |
| Quinnipiac | 7/9 - 7/13 | 1273 RV | 2.8 | 52 | 37 | Biden +15 |
| NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl | 7/9 - 7/12 | 900 RV | 3.3 | 51 | 40 | Biden +11 |
| Economist/YouGov | 7/5 - 7/7 | 1165 RV | 3.6 | 49 | 40 | Biden +9 |
| Rasmussen Reports | 7/5 - 7/7 | 1500 LV | 2.5 | 50 | 40 | Biden +10 |
| The Hill/HarrisX | 7/3 - 7/4 | 933 RV | 3.2 | 43 | 39 | Biden +4 |
| Economist/YouGov | 6/28 - 6/30 | 1198 RV | 3.4 | 49 | 40 | Biden +9 |
| IBD/TIPP | 6/27 - 6/30 | 1005 RV | 3.1 | 48 | 40 | Biden +8 |
| Monmouth | 6/26 - 6/30 | 733 RV | 3.6 | 53 | 41 | Biden +12 |
| CNBC/Change Research (D) | 6/26 - 6/28 | 1663 LV | 1.6 | 49 | 41 | Biden +8 |
| USA Today/Suffolk | 6/25 - 6/29 | 1000 RV | 3.1 | 53 | 41 | Biden +12 |
| NPR/PBS/Marist | 6/22 - 6/24 | 1515 RV | 3.5 | 52 | 44 | Biden +8 |
| The Hill/HarrisX | 6/22 - 6/23 | 951 RV | 3.2 | 43 | 39 | Biden +4 |
| Economist/YouGov | 6/21 - 6/23 | 1230 RV | 3.3 | 49 | 41 | Biden +8 |
| CNBC | 6/19 - 6/22 | 800 RV | 3.5 | 47 | 38 | Biden +9 |
| NY Times/Siena | 6/17 - 6/22 | 1337 RV | 3.0 | 50 | 36 | Biden +14 |
| Harvard-Harris | 6/17 - 6/18 | LV | -- | 56 | 44 | Biden +12 |
| Economist/YouGov | 6/14 - 6/16 | 1160 RV | 3.5 | 50 | 41 | Biden +9 |
| FOX News | 6/13 - 6/16 | 1343 RV | 2.5 | 50 | 38 | Biden +12 |
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Biden
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Biden
So, don't start shitting on polls when you clearly don't understand the methodology. Neither do 90% of the media, they just print what's given to them and rarely check out the crosstabs, or understand them.
Do you often ******* before expressing yourself?
The polls had Hillary winning a close election. She did.
State by state would have shown problems in Wi, PA and MI, which were won by less than 1% (though a poll with +/- .03 would not have caught this). We don't win elections with a national majority (unless you are the two time elected Barack Obama), we win them by getting a majority of the 538 electoral college votes. If we did, no one would fuck around in Iowa, NH. Wyoming or Idaho. Only California where 1/6 of Americans live, New York, Texas, Florida, Pennsylvania and Illinois.
This may be too tough for you. Just keep getting MAGAtfied and believing we are totally delusional and everyone loves Trump.
Save some of that booze for November 3rd.
MichaelSteal
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You know, there is a science to it, not just asking random fucks random questions?
There is science behind getting a large enough sample size to reduce your standard deviation down to an acceptable margin of error.
In 2016, it was close enough that Trump slipped in through those margins. In 2020, even with a larger margin of error for integrity, Trump is behind in every credible poll from all institutions even his propaganda media at FOX and Rasmussen.
Polling Data
Poll Date Sample MoE Biden (D) Trump (R) Spread RCP Average 8/3 - 8/14 -- -- 49.8 41.9 Biden +7.9 CBS News/YouGov 8/12 - 8/14 2152 LV -- 52 42 Biden +10 NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 8/9 - 8/12 900 RV 3.3 50 41 Biden +9 FOX News 8/9 - 8/12 1000 RV 3.0 49 42 Biden +7 Economist/YouGov 8/9 - 8/11 1208 RV 3.6 49 39 Biden +10 The Hill/HarrisX 8/8 - 8/11 2828 RV 1.8 44 40 Biden +4 CNBC/Change Research (D)* 8/7 - 8/9 2143 LV 2.1 50 44 Biden +6 Monmouth* 8/6 - 8/10 785 RV 3.5 51 41 Biden +10 Rasmussen Reports 8/5 - 8/11 2500 LV 2.0 49 43 Biden +6 NPR/PBS/Marist 8/3 - 8/11 1108 RV 3.6 53 42 Biden +11 The Hill/HarrisX 8/2 - 8/5 2850 RV 1.8 43 40 Biden +3 GU Politics/Battleground 8/1 - 8/6 1000 LV 3.1 53 40 Biden +13 Economist/YouGov 8/2 - 8/4 1229 RV 3.3 49 40 Biden +9 Rasmussen Reports 7/29 - 8/4 2500 LV 2.0 48 45 Biden +3 Emerson 7/29 - 7/30 964 LV 3.1 50 46 Biden +4 Economist/YouGov 7/26 - 7/28 1260 RV 3.4 49 40 Biden +9 IBD/TIPP 7/25 - 7/28 1160 RV 3.1 48 41 Biden +7 Rasmussen Reports 7/22 - 7/28 2500 LV 2.0 48 42 Biden +6 CNBC/Change Research (D)* 7/24 - 7/26 1039 LV 3.0 51 42 Biden +9 CBS News/YouGov 7/21 - 7/24 1401 LV -- 51 41 Biden +10 Harvard-Harris 7/21 - 7/23 1932 RV -- 55 45 Biden +10 Economist/YouGov 7/19 - 7/21 1222 RV 3.2 48 41 Biden +7 Rasmussen Reports 7/15 - 7/21 2500 LV 2.0 47 45 Biden +2 The Hill/HarrisX 7/17 - 7/20 2829 RV 1.8 45 38 Biden +7 FOX News 7/12 - 7/15 1104 RV 3.0 49 41 Biden +8 ABC News/Wash Post 7/12 - 7/15 673 LV -- 54 44 Biden +10 Economist/YouGov 7/12 - 7/14 1252 RV 3.3 49 40 Biden +9 CNBC/Change Research (D)* 7/10 - 7/12 1258 LV 2.8 51 41 Biden +10 Rasmussen Reports 7/8 - 7/14 1500 LV 2.0 47 44 Biden +3 Quinnipiac 7/9 - 7/13 1273 RV 2.8 52 37 Biden +15 NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 7/9 - 7/12 900 RV 3.3 51 40 Biden +11 Economist/YouGov 7/5 - 7/7 1165 RV 3.6 49 40 Biden +9 Rasmussen Reports 7/5 - 7/7 1500 LV 2.5 50 40 Biden +10 The Hill/HarrisX 7/3 - 7/4 933 RV 3.2 43 39 Biden +4 Economist/YouGov 6/28 - 6/30 1198 RV 3.4 49 40 Biden +9 IBD/TIPP 6/27 - 6/30 1005 RV 3.1 48 40 Biden +8 Monmouth 6/26 - 6/30 733 RV 3.6 53 41 Biden +12 CNBC/Change Research (D) 6/26 - 6/28 1663 LV 1.6 49 41 Biden +8 USA Today/Suffolk 6/25 - 6/29 1000 RV 3.1 53 41 Biden +12 NPR/PBS/Marist 6/22 - 6/24 1515 RV 3.5 52 44 Biden +8 The Hill/HarrisX 6/22 - 6/23 951 RV 3.2 43 39 Biden +4 Economist/YouGov 6/21 - 6/23 1230 RV 3.3 49 41 Biden +8 CNBC 6/19 - 6/22 800 RV 3.5 47 38 Biden +9 NY Times/Siena 6/17 - 6/22 1337 RV 3.0 50 36 Biden +14 Harvard-Harris 6/17 - 6/18 LV -- 56 44 Biden +12 Economist/YouGov 6/14 - 6/16 1160 RV 3.5 50 41 Biden +9 FOX News 6/13 - 6/16 1343 RV 2.5 50 38 Biden +12 RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Biden
RealClearPolitics - Election 2020 - General Election: Trump vs. Bidenwww.realclearpolitics.com
So, don't start shitting on polls when you clearly don't understand the methodology. Neither do 90% of the media, they just print what's given to them and rarely check out the crosstabs, or understand them.
so what areas were those polls taken in? Also, it kind of shows you have a weak argument when you have to say there is a "science' to it twice in the first two lines.....great freakin argument.
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