More hard than easy

My wife has tried to explore this fantasy of mine a few times over the years. She initially found the idea exciting, but I think she now finds it to be more potential drama than fun. I’m not even sure that switch flips again for her (bummer). It seems the following always tends to ******* it before the “fun” can take root and make her a full fledged convert-

1. The Guy Catches Feelings. My wife is too proper to venture into worlds like “Cuck”, “Hotwife”, “Swinger”, etc. When we have done this in the past the guys never knew I knew, rather they simply thought they were the side bf of a sneaky wife. She would text them, talk, etc. and when they went out she would say that she told me she was with her girls who would cover for her being out late (or all night). This starts okay, but the guys seem to always “fall” quickly, catch feelings, want more, talk about her dropping me, etc. This tips off her “drama” alarm because we have a family, she’s not leaving that, and this was supposed to be “sneaky fun” not shopping for a new husband. Granted, some of this is self created by her because she’s not built to just go around fucking guys but would need a real connection (I.e., a true side bf) to feel comfortable being intimate with. However, despite starting off totally cool with the idea of being a long term side bf they quickly go off the deep end turning her off to them and the entire idea.

2. They Are Okay with #1, but They Aren’t Attractive Either Physically or Personally. Again, her comfort level when open to this has always hinged on a more stable side bf scenario. The men that seem to be truly okay with staying in that lane for some odd reason either aren’t very attractive, they have a little dick, or they have an ugly ego/personality. She can’t fuck someone she isn’t attracted to both physically and personally. It is amazingly hard to find someone who is attractive physically and personally, with a big dick, the maturity to make her comfortable that they won’t start drama or broadcast their business, or won’t try and switch lanes from the side bf role.

3. Her Friends Are Hypocrites. With the aforementioned dilemmas of #1 and 2, her friends and sisters aren’t much help. This is funny because the ones she’s confessed some of this to, we know cheat on their spouses from time to time. Yet they try and down her for either cheating on me or simply doing it (if they know the real deal from #1). They fear I’m not being serious about it being okay (if they know the real deal) or that our relationship would suffer and I’m too good to lose. Kinda funny since they look at us as a beacon they’d hate to see crumble while they do there own dirt from time to time. This coupled with #1 and 2 obviously creates a mental storm that leads someone to just be like “meh sounded fun, but this is too much drama”.

I've followed this site for a pretty long while and things are often presented solely on a physical plane (which given how much of the convo is driven by men makes sense). Like all hesitation and reluctance is solved by a porno or a dildo. However, with women the rules of attraction are often much more complex. I think the only way this would happen at this point is if I somehow had someone seduce her without her knowing; vetting them to see if they could even succeed and coaching them to not fuck up out the gate like so many do in the hopes that maybe they make her open to the idea again and help it take root and convert her. I also realize it’s really hard to find that person lol. So, it is hard, even harder when early experiences taint the possibility.

I guess I’m wondering if others experienced this and/or if they were able to solve it beyond “watch a porno” or “buy her a black dildo” ideas.
 
My wife has tried to explore this fantasy of mine a few times over the years. She initially found the idea exciting, but I think she now finds it to be more potential drama than fun. I’m not even sure that switch flips again for her (bummer). It seems the following always tends to ******* it before the “fun” can take root and make her a full fledged convert-

1. The Guy Catches Feelings. My wife is too proper to venture into worlds like “Cuck”, “Hotwife”, “Swinger”, etc. When we have done this in the past the guys never knew I knew, rather they simply thought they were the side bf of a sneaky wife. She would text them, talk, etc. and when they went out she would say that she told me she was with her girls who would cover for her being out late (or all night). This starts okay, but the guys seem to always “fall” quickly, catch feelings, want more, talk about her dropping me, etc. This tips off her “drama” alarm because we have a family, she’s not leaving that, and this was supposed to be “sneaky fun” not shopping for a new husband. Granted, some of this is self created by her because she’s not built to just go around fucking guys but would need a real connection (I.e., a true side bf) to feel comfortable being intimate with. However, despite starting off totally cool with the idea of being a long term side bf they quickly go off the deep end turning her off to them and the entire idea.

2. They Are Okay with #1, but They Aren’t Attractive Either Physically or Personally. Again, her comfort level when open to this has always hinged on a more stable side bf scenario. The men that seem to be truly okay with staying in that lane for some odd reason either aren’t very attractive, they have a little dick, or they have an ugly ego/personality. She can’t fuck someone she isn’t attracted to both physically and personally. It is amazingly hard to find someone who is attractive physically and personally, with a big dick, the maturity to make her comfortable that they won’t start drama or broadcast their business, or won’t try and switch lanes from the side bf role.

3. Her Friends Are Hypocrites. With the aforementioned dilemmas of #1 and 2, her friends and sisters aren’t much help. This is funny because the ones she’s confessed some of this to, we know cheat on their spouses from time to time. Yet they try and down her for either cheating on me or simply doing it (if they know the real deal from #1). They fear I’m not being serious about it being okay (if they know the real deal) or that our relationship would suffer and I’m too good to lose. Kinda funny since they look at us as a beacon they’d hate to see crumble while they do there own dirt from time to time. This coupled with #1 and 2 obviously creates a mental storm that leads someone to just be like “meh sounded fun, but this is too much drama”.

I've followed this site for a pretty long while and things are often presented solely on a physical plane (which given how much of the convo is driven by men makes sense). Like all hesitation and reluctance is solved by a porno or a dildo. However, with women the rules of attraction are often much more complex. I think the only way this would happen at this point is if I somehow had someone seduce her without her knowing; vetting them to see if they could even succeed and coaching them to not fuck up out the gate like so many do in the hopes that maybe they make her open to the idea again and help it take root and convert her. I also realize it’s really hard to find that person lol. So, it is hard, even harder when early experiences taint the possibility.

I guess I’m wondering if others experienced this and/or if they were able to solve it beyond “watch a porno” or “buy her a black dildo” ideas.
good read, im thinkin lots of hubs u in this stage,
 
a lot of women are not really into it, they may want some strange cock on the side but nothing too kinky or a potential problem. If your wife does not want to fuck other men be happy and content and stick to fantasy
 
a lot of women are not really into it, they may want some strange cock on the side but nothing too kinky or a potential problem. If your wife does not want to fuck other men be happy and content and stick to fantasy
That's why swinging parties probably best place to find bbc for a 1 night stand then you haven't got to see them again . No strings attached
 
do not push a woman to pick a race to fuck just help her fuck who she wants
Any black man we had sex with was not because he was black but because he looked like fun
I'm saying in general regardless of race . Don't want no man catching feelings for my wife. Rather it be spare of the moment
 
my friend who is black and lives in Denver met his partner at a swingers party , she was with three other men, she is white.
It's just sex man nothing else . You do it then move on. Live out the fantasy. No strings attached.
 
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