We are older now, aged out of the fun! It's a 30+ year marriage, 20 or more of those years with her seeing other guys, many times in our marital bed. Her married black lover whom she was seeing before we met taught her how to orgasm PIV, and she was emotionally attached to him as well. That was a 10 year relationship that brought both of us much pleasure. Now, we have to live vicariously through you folks.