Subtle Racism.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by BadJay, Oct 9, 2014.

  1. BadJay

    BadJay Well-Known Member

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    Let me ask this...

    I understand the fantasy of interracial sex and the taboo of fucking us Black men, but there is an undertone of subtle racism that I want to address....

    Are you women looking for a quality BLACK MAN? Or are you just looking for any random 'BBC' (big black cock)?

    Some of You seem to subtly relegate Black men to a black dildo with a pulse...

    There is a difference between White women who actually LOVE Black men (like many of you claim to) - they adore Black, respect Black Men, trust a Black Men, and mother Black mixed babies. And women who just want to 'Gett Off' by letting a Black man fuck them. However...


    Let me ask you this....
    How many of you white women would actually DATE or MARRY a Black Man?
    How many of you white women would have a Black man SIRE your children?
    How many of you cucks would leave your woman Or give her away to a Black man?

    are Black men ONLY good enough to just fuck and nothing else?

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  2. Voodoo Labido

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    Unfortunately not all black men are more than just BBC, it depends how they act, how much emotional integrity they have. There are a million and one black men who would just love to be some stupid mandingo in a porno or rap vidoe. If you get into that kind of relationship, everybody treats everybody else as disposable, you're kidding yourself if you do not think there is some inevitable disposability on this website.

    If you are looking for your future wife on this website, then I suggest you are likely in for a veritable litany of disappointment. Alot of people like disposable shallow sex, they like being objectified. A good proportion of the white women, white men, black men, black women? are not going to be particuarly emotionall available, given the whole nature of the website is built upon a lusty fetish.

    This website is not the place to improve the subjectification of black men lol, though I appreciate someone raising the issue, I think it's a really interesting subject. For the most part it is about wrestling with such roles, what is good, what is bad. Being a BBC mandingo gives you access to being a sexual super man, but obviously, there is the huge counteraction to this that you are an emotionless animal who is just interested in sex, that is the mandingo trope. And I find it fascinating to look at, both the positive and negative. There has never been as powerful a sexual symbol as black men's sexuality in culture, which has obviously it's enormoulsy destructive downsides. With great lust, also comes great violence, stupidity, crudeness, and a lack of ethics, which can also be really sexy lol, depending on the context.

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    Does this guy look like he is having the time of his life? Yes lol. Is your first reaction to think you want him to take care of your kids? Be a therapist? or be chairman of the board?
     
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  3. BadJay

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    I dig and appreciate your sentiments. And I know this is NOT fertile ground for social issues lol, but me being ME - I cannot sit idly by and watch rampart ignorance without saying something. I'm just that guy who speaks out. And not being hypocritical, I am absolutely in the lifestyle. I fuck white hotwives and GFs on a regular basis. And yes, I'll even take part in certain Role-playing ('Thug fucking" as one hotwife loves to engage in) But even in that, there is a modicum of self-respect that demands I am properly referred to as the 'so-called' Superior Black God that the fantasy calls for ;-)

    My white girls call me Sir or Daddy, or hell, they just call me by my real name. But I don't allow them to refer to me as their 'bbc'. F*ck all that.
     
  4. Voodoo Labido

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    Good for you, and it's a personal choice. I know for me, it depends on the kind of woman that I am with, or the kind of dynamic going on. Superior Black God does rather roll well off the tongue well, but not from someone who I actually think is truly racist or has overly liberalised white guilt and goes on about white privilege and all the other bullshit. Same with baby girl, if she literally is like a baby who cannot take responsibility for her emotions I am inclined to want to slap her about and get her to grow up, then again if it allows her to be vulnerable and to have someone help her feel safe while she understands her emotions it's different. White girls are just as allowed to call me an arrogant c**** lol, I'm not beyond criticism.
     
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  5. BadJay

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    When i first got into the lifestyle couple years ago I was all about the BBC because I was new to it. As time went on it didn't feel' right'. I understand using someone for sex - we all do - but more and more I was feeling subtle racism from white couples who only wanted the OBJECT of a black cock regardless of the man. I started seeing sexy white women just letting any random black guy fuck them - fat, greasy, nappy, teeth missing lol - all for the 'BBC'. Personally, I have a problem with being objectified. Especially when it comes to being a Black man. I feel the same way about good looking Black guys dating and marrying overweight unattractive white women. Sure, 'to each their own' - but STILL.

    As if Black men only get the 'scraps' of American society, even with sex. We are allowed to fuck their women who want 'A BBC', but we're not expected to date or marry an attractive woman? #fuckalldat lol
     
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  6. Voodoo Labido

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    I was similar a good few years ago. Is it not fair to say that you have matured some? Become more emotionally deep and you want that in your relationships?

    I still like the lusty fetish but as I mature it does tend to decline in favor of deeper emotional connection, then the ravaging passion is based on that not some weird universal fetish that is not the least bit special.
     
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  7. UrbanGuy

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    Very well stated. I definitely feel the same way. Majority of the women on this site only want to see your black cock and they'll start up a conversation with you just by the pics. Like the Old Players in my days would tell me leave a little something for the imagination. If you're already showing your DICK u leave nothing for the element of surprise. Like the group " BBD " Never trust a BBC with a Smile - It can be Poison :)
     
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  8. dunacouple

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    It's funny how YOUR OWN latent racism is hard to ignore in your post. As it might not surprise you, you are not the first to post about this subject. I ended up posting this link to Dan Savage http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=133984

    I have some concerns about my cuckold fetish that you did not address in a recent column. Aspects of my particular fantasy are prevalent among people with this type of fetish, and they cause me guilt and shame.

    I am white and my fantasies involve my future wife having sex with well-endowed black men. This turns me on but I feel guilty. My fantasy is horribly objectifying and racist, is it not? It requires treating another human being like a piece of meat. The rational part of me, the part that tells me these fantasies are improper, is no match for my inner urges. I can't stop fantasizing about this. In all other aspects of my life I am quite progressive.

    What can I do? My hope is that these urges will go away, but I doubt this will be the case.

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    You bet your cracker ass your fantasy is racist, CUCK. For centuries, white men—not all white men, mind you, but enough that all white men should be embarrassed for all time—have obsessed about the supposed sexual superiority of black men. Whitey fears big black dick, rampaging Mandingos, white women coming down with jungle fever and getting their chifforobes busted up. These fears inspire feelings of inadequacy, insecurity, and paranoia—and white men have typically compensated for these fears through acts of violence. Not for nothing was castration the first order of business at many a lynching.

    But guess what? When given a choice between being lynched and being offered a white man's woman, CUCK, 10 out of 10 black men surveyed prefer the latter. That the same racist stereotypes that still inspire some white men to violence also inspire racially tinged cuckold fantasies in others has to be regarded as progress. Well, maybe not progress, per se, but until we stamp out racism once and for all (let's all hold our breath, shall we?), better cuckold fantasies, acted on or not, than brutal, cold-blooded killings.

    Can I get an "amen"?

    But doesn't enacting your fantasy require the complete objectification of a black man? Yes. And how can you reconcile that kind of racist objectification with your "progressive" values? By sucking on this: It's really super racist of you, CUCK, to assume that black men are incapable of having the same subconscious erotic response to racist stereotypes that you did. There are tons of African-American guys out there who want to play the sexually dominant black stud to your sexually humiliated white cuckold—it took me less than a minute online to find three dozen. How selfish of you, CUCK, not to mention how racist of you, to obsess about the white cuckold's burden with nary a thought for the needs of these black men.

    For shame.

    And for the record, CUCK, there's nothing wrong with treating someone like a piece of meat during sex—provided you treat him like a human being before and after sex. Some people enjoy being treated like pieces of meat, and as long as the men you play with consent to being treated like meat, there's nothing improper about it. Consent is, as I've written before, always and everywhere the magic ingredient. It makes BDSM not actual violence, it makes a facial not actual degradation, it makes a realized rape fantasy not actual rape. In your case, CUCK, the joyful consent of all involved—including your future wife (good luck with that)—makes the expression of your racist fantasy not an actual expression of racial animus.

    To sum up, CUCK: As long as you understand the cultural forces that shaped your fantasy, as long as you don't assume that all black men wanna bust up your wife's chifforobe, and as long as you treat any black man who does bust up her chifforobe like a human being—and, what the hell, as long as you vote Democratic and donate $100 to the United Negro College Fund for every inch of black cock that gets slipped into your future wife's chifforobe—there's nothing unethical about realizing your fantasy.

    (You want an example of a highly unethical and distressingly common cuckold fantasy? "Dom male seeking a true cuckold couple," reads this personal ad. "He will watch me use her and please her. He will do clean-up duties. I am also interested if she is fertile and wants to be bred in front of hubby. The cuck assumes all responsibility toward the baby." Where do I start? A baby simply cannot possibly consent—in advance of conception!—to taking part in a lifelong role-play scenario. Cucks, bucks, bulls, and hot wives? I've got your sweaty backs. Cuckold fantasies are fine, realizing them is finer. But leave conception and kids out of it!)​
     
  9. dunacouple

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    First of all what's wrong with being objectified in a sexual kink among consenting adults? And what does it have to do with racism? If you have a problem being objectified why look for women on a website where it's pretty hard to avoid being objectified?

    What is this subtle racism you speak off? Did they treat you bad?

    Don't try to understand a kink you clearly don't truly appreciate. It's like people complaining about pain on a BDSM forum. Please read the Dan Savage article, it might help put some things in perspective.
     
  10. Kuno

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    The irony in all of this is that the dude in your avatar doesn't even look black.
     
  11. Voodoo Labido

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    "To sum up, CUCK: As long as you understand the cultural forces"

    That is a pretty huge thing to understand these days, it's funny but it's almost spun on it's head with anti-white liberal bias on the one side, and right wing fox news type things decrying endless black crime stats on the other. White men in particular face the most feminist backlash that blames them for every world's ills, women by and large have lost alot of their femininity, and in fairness a huge section of black culture is seriously out of wack.

    My experience of the kink scene also is they are generally a bit knee jerk in fighting anyone off who considers their activities unethical. The problem with things like between 'consensual adults', is that many people have deep seated baby like unconscious emotional needs that they try to get unknowingly in sexual relationship, which when great amounts of lust are added in to the mix, they rarely do, and can result in years of unfulfillment and a life that feels fairly meaningless. Or they say stuff like, 'as long as it occurs in a loving relationship', except they put massively more emphasis on the lust not the love. Kink can be wonderfully cathartic, if you treat it as revealing emotional insight and feelings, that really at the end of the road will probably have very little to do with the actual kink after all.
     
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  12. dunacouple

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    I don't think you need to know the whole debate or appreciate all the dynamics that make up 'the cultural forces' to understand them in this context. You treat people how you would like to be treated. We are all racists for we are humans.

    Regarding fighting off critics of ethics in interracial cuckolding; As explained in the article it is the mutual, and I quote you here "baby like unconscious emotional needs" that fuel this kink. Which would lead me to ask the question, how can it be racist in the first place? Unethical perhaps. Depends on who you ask.

    Racism is defined, ethics is a philosophy.

    EDIT: I am not sure I followed your post as the sentences were to hard to make sense of for my non english brain. But whatever it is you are trying to say about kinks being potentially cathartic or destructive; I agree. However I don't see any relation to any ethics or racism since its completely personal . This is the same with many BDSM discussion. Think rape fantasy and the likes. Most don't question the ethics of that fantasy because of cultural dynamics. Why is it with race any different?

    Consenting adults in my view is context depended. Example; Is it ethical to trick a man to fuck your while you husband is spying?
     
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  13. Orion Pax

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    Everybody wants to go to heaven. But nobody wants to die.
     
  14. MacNfries

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    No, the REAL IRONY of all this is that many of the avatars of black men here (including some of the posters to this thread) are showing their cocks ONLY. And some of the black males, here, use the "N" word, as you say, in their screen name. Does anyone understand the meaning of the word, objectified?
    This is really funny, and I say ...
    gif_yellowball-SICK.gif BULL CRAP! If one wishes to quit being treated as sub-human, one should quit acting sub-human.
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  15. Orion Pax

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    This a contact sport. No flag No foul.
     
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  16. Memphis_girl

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    I date black guys. Last boyfriend was for nearly 2 years. Don't date white guys. When I find the right guy, I would love to get married. I am 99.99% sure he will be black.
     
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  18. PDXVIC

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    I was just asking myself the same thing. All of them complain about how white men have small dicks or he can't fuck as good. The biggest question is of you knew you liked black men why not date one. And he wouldn't have to treat you like a whore.
     
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  19. BBW longing for BBC

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    My reply is in the pink box. My profile picture was posted to show that I am not all talk and then men on here that I actually message with and get to know get pictures of me and some have my number. There are to many people that steal pictures online so the ones I post are taken in a way to keep my identity to myself unless I want to show it to someone. I was on a site called fet life and had the same type of pictures on there. Sex pictures is one of my fetishes and it is nice to have a place to share them. I find interracial pictures of all types beautiful.
     
  20. dunacouple

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    You still dont see saying your hubby sucks and being treated like a whore is a turn on for a lot women/couples after spending more than 5mins on this website...?
     
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