Subject for evolutionary biologists, anthropologists and psychologists?

[WelshIRcuck]

I believe that the subject of interracial cuckoldry maybe a good topic of research for anyone studying evolution and behavioural ecology, psychology and biology.

There seems to be so many white males, including myself, who would willingly abstain from penetrative sex with their white partners if they were having sex with bigger more dominant black males. This seems to counter so much of evolutionary theory and so maybe an area of interesting research.

Quite a few white cuck wannabes would actually support their wives/partners being impregnated by more powerful black males, so how does this fit in with evolutionary theory? This must be a rich area for research?

 

[Rovag66]

You dont need any research, its called masochism.

 

[Portia]

Psychoanalysis would likely be more suitable in explaining sadomasochistic desire than evolutionary psychology.

 

[WelshIRcuck]

Psychoanalysis would likely be more suitable in explaining sadomasochistic desire than evolutionary psychology.

From an individual perspective you maybe right - but I don't want anyone finding out I'm a crackpot, we can't be having that!

But from a wider social perspective evolutionary psychology/biology may be able to explain how cuckold phenomena exist.

I have a feeling though that whatever way they look at it, cucks like me don't come out smelling of roses!

 

[STIFFBBC]

Also the notion of cuckholdry still is not a mainstream phenomenon as it is not listed within the LGBTQ+ universe and personally I never knew that this subculture existed until I joined this site years ago.

 

[Portia]

From an evolutionary perspective, a beta would likely be killed in competition against an alpha. So perhaps the cuckold role is a way to circumvent that risk and still have a chance of passing on his genes through 'sloppy seconds'.

 

[STIFFBBC]

From an evolutionary perspective, a beta would likely be killed in competition against an alpha. So perhaps the cuckold role is a way to circumvent that risk and still have a chance of passing on his genes through 'sloppy seconds'.

From a perspective of observation strictly from this site, I have seen threads where betas state introducing another dominant male removes stress on their end when it comes to their sexual performance.

 

[WelshIRcuck]

From an evolutionary perspective, a beta would likely be killed in competition against an alpha. So perhaps the cuckold role is a way to circumvent that risk and still have a chance of passing on his genes through 'sloppy seconds'.

That's an amazing insight! And something I've been contemplating from an evolutionary perspective. But it's the first time I've heard anyone state what I've been thinking.

As the white cuck is extremely sexually aroused by his partner having sex with a bigger black man he could ejaculate inside his partner almost relentlessly after she's been black sexed. This would increase the chances of her becoming pregnant by him.

A white male who felt intimidated by the more dominant black male and felt no arousal could not do this and so would have no chance of passing on his genes. Interesting.

As a white cuck wannabe I know I could come again and again inside a black loving white female. Under normal circumstances I'd need a good 24 hours recovery!

 

[nanci whiteboy]

Also the notion of cuckholdry still is not a mainstream phenomenon as it is not listed within the LGBTQ+ universe and personally I never knew that this subculture existed until I joined this site years ago.

Haha that's a great point. They're up to something like 16 letters now. Pretty sure they've got a letter for people who think they're a toaster or a Toyota Prius. And still no letters for snowbunnies, bulls or cucks.
(sissies have one though, insert smug emoji)

 

[slinky1]

From a perspective of observation strictly from this site, I have seen threads where betas state introducing another dominant male removes stress on their end when it comes to their sexual performance.

There is no doubt thats the case for myself, our friend is white, he's about 7.5" in size , but he probably has the strongest alpha male qualities of any man I personally know. For me, letting go of that need to pretend to be able to satisfy a woman like he, or an alpha can has been one of the most liberating emotional milestones of my adult life. Being able to be true to yourself is a huge plus for mental happiness, and being ok that i'm ******* at sex with another woman and always have been, is a huge emotional weight of my shoulders.

There are a lot of qualities alpha males lack as well, but like most creatures on this planet for millions of years, at a very primal level and alpha males job is to imprgnate as many females as possible to pass on his stronger genes for the next generation, wheres as a betas/ worker bees role is to work hard and make life easier for its society and also help supporting the next generation.

As a loving partner i'm needed on a lot of levels, but we've both accepted sex isn't my strongest quality.

 

[STIFFBBC]

Haha that's a great point. They're up to something like 16 letters now. Pretty sure they've got a letter for people who think they're a toaster or a Toyota Prius. And still no letters for snowbunnies, bulls or cucks.
(sissies have one though, insert smug emoji)

Care to educate us all (cis-genders I think is the term? (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cisgender) ) as to the current full acronym of LGBTQ+ is these days?

 

[nicholasandjen]

I think it does have to do with alpha-beta dynamic.

 

[Jacktone]

That's an amazing insight! And something I've been contemplating from an evolutionary perspective. But it's the first time I've heard anyone state what I've been thinking.

As the white cuck is extremely sexually aroused by his partner having sex with a bigger black man he could ejaculate inside his partner almost relentlessly after she's been black sexed. This would increase the chances of her becoming pregnant by him.

A white male who felt intimidated by the more dominant black male and felt no arousal could not do this and so would have no chance of passing on his genes. Interesting.

As a white cuck wannabe I know I could come again and again inside a black loving white female. Under normal circumstances I'd need a good 24 hours recovery!

Yes I agree, we white cucks are tremendously aroused my the thought or fact of more dominant Black men fucking our wives, girlfriend's.
Myself even if I see a woman in the street with a Black man I immediately find her more attractive.

 

[BlackFantasy]

Good article on psychology today
https://www.psychologytoday.com/int...et-male-sexual-fantasy-is-surprisingly-common

Cuckold fantasies its not only for white men, lots of asian, arab or indian men have cuckold fantasies.
Lots of men are cuckolds, but they dont know that... noughty wifes

 

[charliecook]

The rise of cuckoldry might have some links in feminism and its development, allowing much less repressed expression of female sexual identity and desire. I don't think it's disputed that natural female mating strategy is to pair with a secure resource rich partner, but then also extra-pair with an alpha male. It gives her diversity on her offspring as well as security in environment.

Traditionally though the male reaction has not been favourable to this, leading women to evolve traits such as fertility not necessarily being overtly visible (so men wouldn't constrain them during fertile periods, nor second guess parentage).

But if it's becoming more acceptable for women to express desires as per nature, perhaps the male response to that, given that most males are probably betas, is to submit to that behaviour, tolerate it, deal with it in order to get any "crack at the whip" and the arousal we see is simply mom nature telling beta males what to do?

(Strictly only an amateur biologist/evolutionary theorist, and not qualified professionally)

 

[WelshIRcuck]

Just think this interracial cuckolding phenomenon is an interesting area for evolutionary biologists and psychologists to investigate. A lot of white cucks openly state that they would encourage and support their white wife/gf getting impregnated by bigger more dominant black men, so how do they pass their genes on?

It was alluded to above that it could be a response of some white males to being in the presence of stronger more powerful black men. But how did this psychology arise and are there any benefits or pay-offs?

In a pure state of nature if the white males responded aggressively they would run the risk of being beaten up or worse. So may be a sensible tactic would be to acquiesce and support the alpha black male sexually owning and breeding the white wife/gf? In such a situation the white male is seen as no threat to the dominant black male and maybe allowed to carry on having a 'relationship' with the white wife/gf?

Still being around his white wife/gf, despite her being 'black owned', may allow the white male the opportunity to mate with her and pass on his genes. There are a number of bird species where a beta male supports the alpha male in acquiring numerous females and, in turn, the alpha male allows the beta male to have a certain number of matings.

This cuckold strategy may not even be a conscious one. It could be that the white male's psychology and sexual desire steer him into a position whereby his sexual satisfaction is geared to supporting his partner to have sex with bigger black males? Just so many questions in this engrossing topic!

I'm sure there are many other factors to consider in interracial cuckolding but I think it would make an interesting area of study.

 

[Swedecpl30]

Alpha and beta isnt a good explanation for human behaviour so I very much doubt that would explain anything. It is a popular term to throw around but it isnt based on any research and you can safely assume that anyone that tries to explain human behaviour with those terms doesnt know what they are talking about.

It isnt even true for wolfs, let alone humans, and IF we look at monkeys it very much depends on which species.

 

[slinky1]

Alpha and beta isnt a good explanation for human behaviour so I very much doubt that would explain anything. It is a popular term to throw around but it isnt based on any research and you can safely assume that anyone that tries to explain human behaviour with those terms doesnt know what they are talking about.

It isnt even true for wolfs, let alone humans, and IF we look at monkeys it very much depends on which species.

My wife and I agree with you about the Alpha / Beta labels, but there is no doubt for us at least about her desire for 'Alphas' and no desire for 'Betas'. Maybe its more a swagger, confidence, sexual assertiveness that some men command and other men have none. Add penis size to that equation, and the divide is even greater. Had I been born with a large cock, perhaps i'd been more confident and successful with women, thus help build a more masculine personality and have stronger male traits. I wasn't and i've never ever had sexual influence over any woman, thus added to my submissiveness, which only compounded by even more women having no interest in me, meaning less sex, meaning less confidence.

We do use the terms alpha and beta, but more in a pop psycholgy way, and use it for lack of a better term.

 

[Randilicous]

What A great OP! Personally I believe sperm competition theory can explain much of this "lifestyle"

Look at studies done in our close cousins, the apes. In these studies A caged Male ape was introduced to A receptive female. Of course the deed is done and after the Male ape orgasms he loses interest in her, her womb is seeded and his body is flooding with tryptophan, he languishes, relaxed and sleepy.The same as A human Male after an intense orgasm. He's performed his biological necessity and it's all up to fate if she concieves.

Introduce another female and the Male ape will "rise" to the occasion however. He lost interest in the first female as she is already filled with his sperm, however the chance to pass on his genes triggers his biological impulse and he will then mate with the second female. Introduce consecutive females and the Ape will literally mate until he dies from sexual exhaustion. The need to pass on his genes is such A biological imperative!

Put A monkey wrench in the experiment (pun intended) and introduce another Male Ape into the scenario. Make the caged apes watch whilst another ape breeds the female and then in turn put her into the cage with another Male. The Male ape will breed with her of course. Fucking her as hard as he can. Trying to displace the sperm of the other Male.

A tangent: in cuttlefish the Male, having claimed A female from another Male by combat, will literally place his jet into her and exhaling, forsing the other males sperm out of her, before commencing the mating process! ?

In some Ape species sexual promiscuity is the only defense A female has against the larger, more aggressive males. She mates with ALL the Male apes in her tribe. That way the males don't know if her offspring is his own. In chimpanzees A Male chimp will ******* on sight, instinctively, offspring of any female he has never seen before, he knows it isn't his and won't stand for it growing up to maybe challenge his place in the sexual hierarchy, or compete with him for resources.

Now consider studies performed on humans. One discovery is that A human Male will orgasm harder whilst having sex with A woman who has been with another man. Not only will his orgasm be more intense he will also ejaculate more sperm as well, all A biological response. If you think about it, why is gangbang porn so popular amongst straight males? Why the obsession on this site with "creampies" and "cleanup" among many here?

Human beings are A predominantly monogamous species, with promiscuous tendencies, as opposed to some species who are primarily promiscuous. Part of the reason for this is the long gestation times for our young, along with the extended time it takes to raise our young, 18 years for the most part. It takes that amount of time to properly train our offspring to make their own way in the world.

There's an inherent dichotomy in human, straight males however. We NEED A connection to A human female. We need love! Take for example A rich, successful Male. He could easily keep multiple females in apartments around for his fun. However even rich bankers and movie directors get married. Not saying they don't have A side piece every now and then, but they commit to A single, human female.

Now imagine your average guy. He does not have the resources to "keep" multiple females and provide for them. His only option is to, as the great Chris Rock has explained, "recycle the pussy" for some men the reason sharing their women with other men is the excitement, all biological, of having his sperm compete with other mens. A typical married couple has sex thousands of times. However let your wife be taken by another man and the excitement level he has for her is reset. He's fucked her 3 times A week for decades, that's gotten old. Having her after another Male has ejaculated in her enhances his lust, his orgasms, his ejaculation!

As to the ir aspect of this I believe it is fringe. Keep in mind that there's under 200k people on this worldwide site and the "cuckold fetish" is much larger than that. In my case it probably stems from the fact that I was abused by A black Male when I was young. It resulted in A kind of fixation, maybe trying to take back the power I had robbed from me when I was A kid.

In others I believe A masochistic streak, or even A racist one plays A part. We all probably got here, in this particular niche, in our own way.

So to wrap up the primary drive for this kink or "lifestyle" is, in my eyes primarily biological, with A social aspect as well.

 

[WelshIRcuck]

What A great OP! Personally I believe sperm competition theory can explain much of this "lifestyle"

Look at studies done in our close cousins, the apes. In these studies A caged Male ape was introduced to A receptive female. Of course the deed is done and after the Male ape orgasms he loses interest in her, her womb is seeded and his body is flooding with tryptophan, he languishes, relaxed and sleepy.The same as A human Male after an intense orgasm. He's performed his biological necessity and it's all up to fate if she concieves.

Introduce another female and the Male ape will "rise" to the occasion however. He lost interest in the first female as she is already filled with his sperm, however the chance to pass on his genes triggers his biological impulse and he will then mate with the second female. Introduce consecutive females and the Ape will literally mate until he dies from sexual exhaustion. The need to pass on his genes is such A biological imperative!

Put A monkey wrench in the experiment (pun intended) and introduce another Male Ape into the scenario. Make the caged apes watch whilst another ape breeds the female and then in turn put her into the cage with another Male. The Male ape will breed with her of course. Fucking her as hard as he can. Trying to displace the sperm of the other Male.

A tangent: in cuttlefish the Male, having claimed A female from another Male by combat, will literally place his jet into her and exhaling, forsing the other males sperm out of her, before commencing the mating process! ?

In some Ape species sexual promiscuity is the only defense A female has against the larger, more aggressive males. She mates with ALL the Male apes in her tribe. That way the males don't know if her offspring is his own. In chimpanzees A Male chimp will ******* on sight, instinctively, offspring of any female he has never seen before, he knows it isn't his and won't stand for it growing up to maybe challenge his place in the sexual hierarchy, or compete with him for resources.

Now consider studies performed on humans. One discovery is that A human Male will orgasm harder whilst having sex with A woman who has been with another man. Not only will his orgasm be more intense he will also ejaculate more sperm as well, all A biological response. If you think about it, why is gangbang porn so popular amongst straight males? Why the obsession on this site with "creampies" and "cleanup" among many here?

Human beings are A predominantly monogamous species, with promiscuous tendencies, as opposed to some species who are primarily promiscuous. Part of the reason for this is the long gestation times for our young, along with the extended time it takes to raise our young, 18 years for the most part. It takes that amount of time to properly train our offspring to make their own way in the world.

There's an inherent dichotomy in human, straight males however. We NEED A connection to A human female. We need love! Take for example A rich, successful Male. He could easily keep multiple females in apartments around for his fun. However even rich bankers and movie directors get married. Not saying they don't have A side piece every now and then, but they commit to A single, human female.

Now imagine your average guy. He does not have the resources to "keep" multiple females and provide for them. His only option is to, as the great Chris Rock has explained, "recycle the pussy" for some men the reason sharing their women with other men is the excitement, all biological, of having his sperm compete with other mens. A typical married couple has sex thousands of times. However let your wife be taken by another man and the excitement level he has for her is reset. He's fucked her 3 times A week for decades, that's gotten old. Having her after another Male has ejaculated in her enhances his lust, his orgasms, his ejaculation!

As to the ir aspect of this I believe it is fringe. Keep in mind that there's under 200k people on this worldwide site and the "cuckold fetish" is much larger than that. In my case it probably stems from the fact that I was abused by A black Male when I was young. It resulted in A kind of fixation, maybe trying to take back the power I had robbed from me when I was A kid.

In others I believe A masochistic streak, or even A racist one plays A part. We all probably got here, in this particular niche, in our own way.

So to wrap up the primary drive for this kink or "lifestyle" is, in my eyes primarily biological, with A social aspect as well.

Some very interesting and informative pieces of information. I'm sure there are many factors involved in the cuckold sexuality and lifestyle, and different people have highlighted ones that they feel are particularly important, such as sperm competition, which is great.

In one facet of the interracial cuckold lifestyle a white cuck will willingly allow a big black man to impregnate his white wife and then help raise the mixed race baby. I think this is an area of potentially interesting research for evolutionary biogists, ecologists etc as, on the surface, it goes against evolutionary theory.

Is it just an anomaly or is there something deeper at work? Even if a lot of white males would never do this in reality, the thought of it is sexually exciting for many of them. I just thing this is an interesting topic to be researched by biologists, behavioural ecologists etc.