Do you ever feel guilt?

[fcjjvu4nos4ngc]

So I obviously understand that my behavior is a betrayal against my genetic line, which makes me feel guilt but also sexually excites me. I understand the implications that this will have on the future.

Liberal humanism is obviously a temporary ideology because liberal humanists do not reproduce and the industrialized world (i.e. the liberal humanist world) is going extinct due to having a birth rate of 1.3 and therefore have a birth cohort that is declining by about 1/3 every generation, so every 30 years or so.

Obviously you cannot have perpetual liberal humanism while perpetually selecting against liberal humanists and liberal humanist societies. The ideology is already buckling under the weight of its own contradictions, so it's not going to last. When it does collapse and there is a change of ideology... human history will resume and then the wrath stored up unto the day of wrath will be released upon the whole industrialized world.

Is the betrayal/surrender/conquest part of the appeal? Clearly the personal betrayal/surrender/conquest is sexy, but what about societal betrayal/surrender/conquest?

Do you ever feel guilt? What are your strategies for dealing with that guilt?

I'm not saying its our fault really, but we're clearly contributing.

 

[serna juilce]

Everything is a matter of your own choice.

 

[beenblackened]

I have never felt guilt

 

[AnnieS]

I feel like I should go enroll in a philosophy class now.

 

[Katielynn2025]

why feel guilt for something that is natural

 

[fcjjvu4nos4ngc]

why feel guilt for something that is natural

Everything that happens in the natural world is per definition natural including ******* and *******. I don't quite see how that absolves us.

 

[fcjjvu4nos4ngc]

Everything is a matter of your own choice.

Do you think we have duties to society?

 

[Jimsopen]

Ashamed for loving this so much early on. Not guilty per se.

Every once in a while I imagine how my life would be if I was just straight and vanilla.

 

[serna juilce]

Do you think we have duties to society?

yes

 

[SCBlknNsty]

So I obviously understand that my behavior is a betrayal against my genetic line, which makes me feel guilt but also sexually excites me. I understand the implications that this will have on the future.

First you need to adjust your assessment of your genetic line; the ONLY scientific lineage being homo sapiens.

Do you ever feel guilt? What are your strategies for dealing with that guilt?

Are you truly speaking of guilt...or are you speaking of shame?

I'm not saying its our fault really, but we're clearly contributing.

Whatever you yourself are feeling it is not appropriate to ask others, then presume they must have the same conclusions.

Do you think we have duties to society?

Certainly. But to society in it's entirety, not to a subset.

 

[fcjjvu4nos4ngc]

yes

Do you agree that the loss of demographic and political power of our people and the decline of the first world is bad for our society, civilization, people, and humanity in general?

 

[fcjjvu4nos4ngc]

First you need to adjust your assessment of your genetic line; the ONLY scientific lineage being homo sapiens.

Are you truly speaking of guilt...or are you speaking of shame?

Whatever you yourself are feeling it is not appropriate to ask others, then presume they must have the same conclusions.

Certainly. But to society in it's entirety, not to a subset.

You are confusing the taxonomic classification of our species with our genetic line. All humans are genetically distinct and have a unique lineage (except for monozygotic twins). Some of those lineages are very proximal to other lineages (i.e. siblings), some are less proximal (i.e. Europeans and Asians).

I am speaking of guilt. My behavior leads to negative social consequences, which makes me feel bad because I'm selected by evolution to want to serve my own genetic interest.

Others can challenge my conclusions if they want.

You are a universalist. I am a particularist for my own genetic line. I find this to be more logical given that we live in an evolutionary world where populations compete against other populations and that this is the basis upon which genetic replicators are selected. Also, I don't see how this is not terrible for society in its entirety.

 

[serna juilce]

Do you agree that the loss of demographic and political power of our people and the decline of the first world is bad for our society, civilization, people, and humanity in general?

Life will always find a way.

 

[SCBlknNsty]

Others can challenge my conclusions if they want.

Erroneous postulation...you posted publicly...ANYONE can challenge regardless of your desire to place restrictions on who can or cannot.

You are a universalist. I am a particularist for my own genetic line.

You are a tribalist, clinging to a historical concept who's time has passed, never to return.

I find this to be more logical given that we live in an evolutionary world where populations compete against other populations and that this is the basis upon which genetic replicators are selected. Also, I don't see how this is not terrible for society in its entirety.

Evolution is the natural order of existence and MUST come to pass; it is a terrible loss to society when a member chooses to fight the tide.

 

[fcjjvu4nos4ngc]

Erroneous postulation...you posted publicly...ANYONE can challenge regardless of your desire to place restrictions on who can or cannot.

You are a tribalist, clinging to a historical concept who's time has passed, never to return.

Evolution is the natural order of existence and MUST come to pass; it is a terrible loss to society when a member chooses to fight the tide.

I said anyone can challenge any of my conclusions. You must have misread me?

I don't understand why you think tribalism won't return, liberal humanism is being selected against, the first world is being selected against, tribalist societies and primitive tribal peoples are being selected for. Check the birth rates for yourself.

Moreover, ideology changes regularly. It seems naive to think we're just going to have perpetual liberal humanism on that basis alone.

Evolution works by everybody doing what is best for their own genetic line and the genetic replicators that were best adapted to do that survive. There is no "fighting the tide."